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    1. Re: [G] Shardlow Marriage Challenge 1837 - 1911
    2. Howard Laver via
    3. Hi Sue I only have one entry for this date period. 1911 SEP LAVER George Edmund Louisa Coxon Shardlow 7b 1001 no 39 pg 20 02-Sep-11 All Saints Ockbrook may be useful for your cardinal points? Cheers Howard -----Original Message----- From: S Horsman via Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:09 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Shardlow Marriage Challenge 1837 - 1911 I would like to announce the Shardlow Marriage Challenge, covering 1837 to 1911. This is for Guild Registered names only, and has a closing date of 31 May 2015. Shardlow RD is complicated as it spans three counties, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Leicestershire, [ie 3 different Archive offices] If you have a Find My Past Subscription, Derbyshire marriages have been indexed for the full period, and Nottinghamshire has been done up to about 1900 (parishes vary). Please refer to the Shardlow Registration District details on GENUKI, to see which parishes fall within each county, and use this information to check details on FMP in order to identify and provide the parish on your spreadsheet. Submissions must be in an excel spreadsheet in the format given on the Marriage Challenge page of the Guild web site. Also in order to be fair to everyone, I reserve the right to put a limit on the number of requests I will look at for members, if they submit a large quantity. Please send submissions to me at horsman@one-name.org Sue Horsman 3446 Hors(e)man _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/28/2015 01:34:03
    1. Re: [G] Chesterfield Marriage Challenge 1881 - 1911
    2. Andy Micklethwaite via
    3. Correction - the new beta search has found the register entry - under Micklethwaite! Andy.

    01/28/2015 01:21:57
    1. Re: [G] Chesterfield Marriage Challenge 1881 - 1911
    2. Andy Micklethwaite via
    3. Hi Sue At last, a marriage challenge with a Micklethwaite in (just one!) So I took more notice of your email - and understood even less! What is on FMP? And how do I find it? I can't even see the marriage on FMP's BMD registers! It's on FreeBMD (as Mickelthwaite - Joseph R and Lucy Lawton - MarQ 1910 7b 1254) Andy, Brain-fogged in Belper At 15:58 27/01/2015, you wrote: >On behalf of John Moses I am announcing the final stage of the Marriage Challenge for the Chesterfield RD for the period 1881 ­ 1911. Entries for registered names only,, wherever possible must be submitted in an Excel spreadsheet in the format shown in the sample file on the marriage challenge page of the Guild web site. Details of the locations of Derbyshire marriages in the RD can be found on Find My Past. If you have access to this, please help by checking and providing the church information.  A limited amount is on Family Search. In order to enable challenge details to go in the journal, the cut off date will be 30th April. Entries will be accepted from now. Submissions must be sent to John at moses@one-name.org Sue Horsman _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com w! ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/28/2015 01:16:36
    1. Re: [G] London Medical and Healthcare Seminar (Saturday February 7th 2015) - 4 spaces available
    2. Alan R Moorhouse via
    3. Following a couple of cancellations and final confirmation arrangements with the venue we are pleased to advise that there are now 4 last minute spaces available for the London Healthcare seminar on Saturday week. If you would still like to book please email us seminar-booking@one-name.org as soon as possible. Regards, Alan R Moorhouse Seminar bookings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan R Moorhouse" <alan.moorhouse@btinternet.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [G] London Medical and Healthcare Seminar (Saturday February 7th 2015) - FULLY BOOKED!! > The London seminar is now officially fully booked. If you had wanted to > attend but have left making your booking too late do please email > seminar-booking@one-name.org to check for any cancellations or late > availability.

    01/27/2015 02:30:01
    1. [G] Shardlow Marriage Challenge 1837 - 1911
    2. S Horsman via
    3. I would like to announce the Shardlow Marriage Challenge, covering 1837 to 1911. This is for Guild Registered names only, and has a closing date of 31 May 2015.   Shardlow RD is complicated as it spans three counties, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Leicestershire, [ie 3 different Archive offices]   If you have a Find My Past Subscription,  Derbyshire marriages have been indexed for the full period,  and Nottinghamshire has been done up to about 1900 (parishes vary).  Please refer to the Shardlow Registration District details on GENUKI, to see which parishes fall within each county,  and  use this information to check details on FMP in order to identify and provide the parish on your spreadsheet.   Submissions must be in an excel spreadsheet in the format given on the Marriage Challenge page of the Guild web site.  Also in order to be fair to everyone, I reserve the right to put a limit on the number of requests I will look at for members, if they submit a large quantity.  Please send submissions to me at horsman@one-name.org Sue Horsman 3446 Hors(e)man

    01/27/2015 09:09:51
    1. [G] Chesterfield Marriage Challenge 1881 - 1911
    2. S Horsman via
    3. On behalf of John Moses I am announcing the final stage of the Marriage Challenge for the Chesterfield RD for the period 1881 – 1911. Entries for registered names only, wherever possible must be submitted in an Excel spreadsheet in the format shown in the sample file on the marriage challenge page of the Guild web site. Details of the locations of Derbyshire marriages in the RD can be found on Find My Past. If you have access to this, please help by checking and providing the church information.   A limited amount is on Family Search. In order to enable challenge details to go in the journal, the cut off date will be 30th April. Entries will be accepted from now. Submissions must be sent to John at moses@one-name.org Sue Horsman

    01/27/2015 08:58:05
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Sherlock Holmes via
    3. Hi, It looks like MyHeritage teamed up with 23andMe based on the news letter they have just sent out. Subject line was "DNA: exciting new discoveries via 23andMe". Have no idea what the service is like let alone cost. Further to what Debbie wrote, just wondering what it cost to do the DNA on Richard III, maybe it could be an option for lines that have died out, can not see close relations objecting if they died over 100 years ago as they be 6 foot under as well. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formally 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. On 27/01/2015 9:33 a.m., Debbie Kennett via wrote: > I imagine there are NPEs in every surname DNA project. It would be much more > surprising to find a project without any NPEs. I've yet to hear of any DNA > project where all the participants have matching DNA signatures. > > With DNA testing it's always important to combine the results with the > genealogical records. Sometimes it can be established through a process of > triangulation that the family trees are correct but there has been an NPE in > one specific line. This was the case, for example, with the case of Richard > III: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30281333 > > Turi King, who led the Richard III DNA testing, has also done some > interesting research on surnames and the Y-chromosome. You can find further > details here: > > http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/genetics/people/king/surnames-and-the-y-chr > omosome > > In case it's of interest there is a page in the ISOGG Wiki with lots of > information on NPEs: > > http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Non-paternity_event > > Debbie Kennett > Member no. 4554 > Cruwys/Cruise/Cruse one-name study > http://cruwys.blogspot.com > http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/CruwysDNA > >

    01/27/2015 06:39:00
    1. [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. John A Creer via
    3. Non-paternal events (NPEs) are a significant factor to be aware of in all Y-DNA studies. I have recently done some practical analysis of their incidence in the Manx Y-DNA project which may be helpful to others – see http://wp.me/p2AJd2-88 cheers John John A Creer Home Email Address           john@creer.co.uk (alternatives creer@one-name.org or jacreer@gmail.com ) Family History Websites      www.ballacreer.com www.manxdna.co.uk www.creer.co.uk

    01/27/2015 04:10:15
    1. [G] FGS Article About the Guild
    2. Tessa Keough via
    3. We are in the news - the FGS Forum to be exact! Kudos to John Coldwell, the Guild's publicity manager, for his efforts on that project. John worked with Marian Pierre Louis around the Christmas holidays on a article she was writing about the Guild for the FGS Forum (their quarterly journal). The FGS Forum went out to members last week. The FGS (Federated Genealogical Societies) is an umbrella organization serving 500 member groups (genealogy and historical societies, libraries and archives - located worldwide) who represent over one million individual genealogists. The Forum is a "must read" and has a strong following. The Guild is a proud member of FGS and we will be at the FGS Society Showcase located at the RootsTech Exhibit Hall. The FGS/RootsTech Conference, with over 300 sessions, is in Salt Lake City February 11-14, and we hope to see some of you there. A huge thank you to John for helping to provide an excellent summary of who we are and what we do to the FGS membership. Well done all around! I am checking with FGS about providing a link to the article to our members and will post it as soon as I have permission. Tessa Tessa Keough Guild of One-Name Studies, Member No. 5089 Keough (Keogh, Kough & Kehoe) Registered ONS

    01/27/2015 01:10:39
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Debbie Kennett via
    3. I imagine there are NPEs in every surname DNA project. It would be much more surprising to find a project without any NPEs. I've yet to hear of any DNA project where all the participants have matching DNA signatures. With DNA testing it's always important to combine the results with the genealogical records. Sometimes it can be established through a process of triangulation that the family trees are correct but there has been an NPE in one specific line. This was the case, for example, with the case of Richard III: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30281333 Turi King, who led the Richard III DNA testing, has also done some interesting research on surnames and the Y-chromosome. You can find further details here: http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/genetics/people/king/surnames-and-the-y-chr omosome In case it's of interest there is a page in the ISOGG Wiki with lots of information on NPEs: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Non-paternity_event Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 Cruwys/Cruise/Cruse one-name study http://cruwys.blogspot.com http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys http://www.familytreedna.com/public/CruwysDNA

    01/26/2015 01:33:24
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Anne Shankland via
    3. y-DNA has been a bit of a game-changer for the Shankland study . . since the person who started the one-name study (my husband) has turned out not to be a Shankland after all but probably descended from an Irwin / Irving / Irvine line! And the Irwin / Irving / Irvine line apparently has an NPE or two in it as well. Is illegitimacy inherited? (;-} Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Kipp via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:51 AM Subject: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies >I wonder if there has ever been anything written about the changes to > the family tree reconstructions as a result of yDNA results. Is there > any idea as to how many projects were affected? Certainly Blake was > thought to be somewhat less varied than it actually is. I am finding > that Pincombe/Pinkham which were always thought to be one family have > several different results. > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS > Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm > Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ > Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) > The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, > Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, > Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, > Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/26/2015 12:18:25
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Merryl Wells via
    3. Hi, I received a Google Alert giving the death of a male with my ONS surname over the weekend. Wasn't sure which branch he belonged to so traced back in the usual way in the GRO BMD Indexes to discover his father had the same birth surname as his mother's maiden name? probably illegitimate, and was born post 1911 and the censuses. The Registration District is the most prominent for my ONS so I can't just look for a female of the right age to have had a baby, would have to buy the birth certificate just to discover her first name? Did think that if he had been baptized that would give mother's first name and possibly the name of the father as well, only few baptism registers for around 1920 have been deposited yet. Guess now is not the time to contact descendants! One slight possibility is that the recently deceased gentleman seems to have added his father on Genes Reunited, that if I sent a message to view his tree I might get a reply from whoever now has access to his computer? From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Owston via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "Elizabeth Kipp" <kippeeb@rogers.com>; "Goons Mailing List" <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies >I would venture to say most single origin surname Y-DNA projects have > experienced NPEs where documented lines produce different results from > the primary surname modal haplotype. I have a low-frequency surname > with probably only 500 individuals (male and female) with three > variations of the name and have tested 28 males. This is not a huge > sample; but of those 28, eight participants have different haplotypes. > > Two of those are descended from unmarried women where their sons kept > the surname. > I've looked at the GRO records for England and Wales from 1911-2006. > Since 1960, there are interesting results with my surname. > > 29% of the male births with my surname occurred in lines with known NPEs. > > 17% of the male births were to unmarried women of my surname who > registered their children under both the mother's and father's > surnames. > > 7% of the male births were to unmarried women of my surname who > registered their children under the mother's surname. > Jim

    01/26/2015 11:35:10
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Jim Owston via
    3. I would venture to say most single origin surname Y-DNA projects have experienced NPEs where documented lines produce different results from the primary surname modal haplotype. I have a low-frequency surname with probably only 500 individuals (male and female) with three variations of the name and have tested 28 males. This is not a huge sample; but of those 28, eight participants have different haplotypes. Two of those are descended from unmarried women where their sons kept the surname. One line had an unofficial adoption. The other five are unknown; however, I have speculated on what may have occurred in each instance. Two I supposed are unofficial adoptions of a wife's child from a previous relationship. Two others are in two different lines where there were bigamous relationships and the child was born to the second wife; perhaps, in each case, the wife had been impregnated by someone else. The fifth may be a case where a child was born prior to marriage and mother may have identified the wrong man as the father when other possibilities existed. Unfortunately, many of my lines only have one or two males with the surname and triangulating the results would be impossible. As far as the effect on a one-named study, this is minimal as we are tracing the use of the surname and genetics are an adjunct to that study. I've looked at the GRO records for England and Wales from 1911-2006. Since 1960, there are interesting results with my surname. 29% of the male births with my surname occurred in lines with known NPEs. 17% of the male births were to unmarried women of my surname who registered their children under both the mother's and father's surnames. 7% of the male births were to unmarried women of my surname who registered their children under the mother's surname. Therefore, since 1960 in England and Wales, 53% males registered with my surname do not have our modal haplotype. In addition, there are 10% of the births where the lineage of the surnamed male cannot be ascertained based on the mother's surname alone. Therefore, the percentage of births with NPEs may even be larger. Jim On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Elizabeth Kipp via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I wonder if there has ever been anything written about the changes to > the family tree reconstructions as a result of yDNA results. Is there > any idea as to how many projects were affected? Certainly Blake was > thought to be somewhat less varied than it actually is. I am finding > that Pincombe/Pinkham which were always thought to be one family have > several different results. > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS > Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm > Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ > Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) > The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Jim James M. Owston, EdD Owston One-Name Study #5647 owston@one-name.org http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?find=5647

    01/26/2015 04:13:29
    1. Re: [G] Modern "Marriages"
    2. Rupert Whitmarsh via
    3. Family Historian is not bothered about the sex of the spouse either. Rupert Whitmarsh On 26/01/2015 09:35, John Hill via wrote: > Reunion, on the Macintosh, has no problem either. > > Just switch both participants to Female. It also allows for Unknown! > > John. > >> On 26 Jan 2015, at 00:52, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Hi One-Namers >> >> RootsMagic 7 doesn't seem to have any problems with same sex marriages, on >> the surface anyway >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    01/26/2015 03:49:47
    1. Re: [G] Modern "Marriages" and Facebook
    2. John P Laws via
    3. Hi One-Namers Everywhere I agree with Marie, and then there are those not so modern marriages when folk married their cousins and other very close relatives where they kept it in the family. In small or isolated communities and particularly where travel was difficult there was/is a small gene pool & I guess we all have a great many brother & sister married a sister & brother, I even have one LAWES family where a number of siblings married folk who on the face of it were likely to be related. All good fun for us genealogists eh! John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marie Byatt via Sent: 25 January 2015 22:59 To: Gordon Adshead; goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Modern "Marriages" and Facebook The same way the World wide index does 'Study surname' and 'Spouse Surname' - actually that is why we went that route with the Index - asking people to categorize as 'bride and groom' can be awkward. We are trying to document the happenings and trends of our surnames - not to judge them. So one of your Adsheads married someone of a different surname - that's what you record. BTW - I'd love to have those marriages for the index Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: Gordon Adshead via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: GOONS <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 5:08 PM Subject: [G] Modern "Marriages" and Facebook I am not a great fan of Facebook, and I am aware that there are many different ways in which it is used. But I have found it a fairly fruitful way of finding out what some of the modern ADSHEADs are up to. But I have just been given my first database challenge [I have to use ficticious names, or our forum manager would remove this post from the archives] I have made facebook "friends" with some 60 or 70 ADSHEADs including one Arthur in Australia He had a sister Bertha who also asked to be a friend Bertha has just posted a message:- "Yesterday I got married to Caroline SMITH" Several of her friends and Arthur all sent messages of congratulation so I assume that it is a genuine civil "marriage". But it has left me wondering exactly how I should record this in my Marriage Index. Best regards Gordon +Z [+Z] <http://www.adshead.com/> Gordon Adshead <gordon@adshead.com> [+Z] Beaumont House, 2 Goodrington Road, Handforth, Cheshire, SK9 3AT, UK [+Z] Tel:+44-1625-549770 Mob:+44-7776-145602 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/26/2015 03:28:14
    1. Re: [G] Modern "Marriages"
    2. John Hill via
    3. Reunion, on the Macintosh, has no problem either. Just switch both participants to Female. It also allows for Unknown! John. > On 26 Jan 2015, at 00:52, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi One-Namers > > RootsMagic 7 doesn't seem to have any problems with same sex marriages, on > the surface anyway > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/26/2015 02:35:56
    1. Re: [G] overseas marriages records
    2. Polly Rubery via
    3. The GRO Overseas indexes are online on FindMyPast and also FREE to search at: http://www.familyrelatives.com/post_search.php?area_id=11 Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "L Harris via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 8:41 AM Subject: [G] overseas marriages records We used to be able to consult the registers of overseas BMDs in London. How can we search them now to order a birth & marriage certificate in Rhodesia in 1920 - 1930? Your advice would be much appreciated. Lauretta Harris

    01/26/2015 01:55:34
    1. [G] overseas marriages records
    2. L Harris via
    3. We used to be able to consult the registers of overseas BMDs in London. How can we search them now to order a birth & marriage certificate in Rhodesia in 1920 - 1930? Your advice would be much appreciated. Lauretta Harris 3434

    01/26/2015 01:41:09
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Marie Byatt via
    3. I have several lines documented back into the 1500s - DNA results would indicate that at least 5 possible instances where a common ancestor should exist, This gives us a direction to look. It also has shown that the solely English concept of the origin of the surname that is widely published is true for only one line which is also the only line that mixes the 'ler' and 'low' endings. DNa has also shown that the South African family is closely related to at least one large German line - we are looking for more males to test from some of the other lineages to determine if there could be connections with them. Since all the lines go back to the beginnings of records, we really need to be armed before we start the next level of searching. Since we already have a suspicious NPE on a very documented individual, I'm trying to find at least 2 or more males for each line - this is proving very difficult - a lot of lines daughtered out a hundred years ago. Over this last summer and fall, I was sent and pointed to online about 1500 German records - so far I have entered nearly 1000 fitting them into families where they belonged. THis has provided a chance to see a real density of individuals in a very small area of Germany. Now to find living descendents. Does any one know a good German genealogical forum where I could post for 'new' males? I'm hoping to be able to do so in about a month or so. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Worthington via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: Elizabeth Kipp <kippeeb@rogers.com>; "goons@rootsweb.com" <goons@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies Elizabeth, I know of one, One Name Study that was impacted. The paper trail is very clear and documented back to the 1300's. But, around 1600 to 1650, one branch of that Surnames doesn't may the yDNA results. Russ (6327) On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Elizabeth Kipp via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I wonder if there has ever been anything written about the changes to > the family tree reconstructions as a result of yDNA results. Is there > any idea as to how many projects were affected? Certainly Blake was > thought to be somewhat less varied than it actually is. I am finding > that Pincombe/Pinkham which were always thought to be one family have > several different results. > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS > Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm > Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ > Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) > The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- hrworth@gmail.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/26/2015 12:58:35
    1. Re: [G] yDNA and its effect on one-name studies
    2. Russ Worthington via
    3. Elizabeth, I know of one, One Name Study that was impacted. The paper trail is very clear and documented back to the 1300's. But, around 1600 to 1650, one branch of that Surnames doesn't may the yDNA results. Russ (6327) On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Elizabeth Kipp via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I wonder if there has ever been anything written about the changes to > the family tree reconstructions as a result of yDNA results. Is there > any idea as to how many projects were affected? Certainly Blake was > thought to be somewhat less varied than it actually is. I am finding > that Pincombe/Pinkham which were always thought to be one family have > several different results. > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS > Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm > Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ > Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) > The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- hrworth@gmail.com

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