Adrian You've got to remember that what is recorded is the place they were living at the time of the marriage (or where there they said they were) and not necessarily where they were born. Also, I'd heard that some people kept a suitcase at a house in the parish in order to establish residency. Brian On 03/02/2015 13:24, Adrian Abbott via wrote: > I have always assumed that, in the Church of England at any rate, it > was and still is usual to marry in the bride's parish, which should be > very useful in tracing family origins. > > Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 required standardised information to > be registered, including the parish of origin. I have been looking at > the registers of a rural parish in Hampshire, and after 1754 93% of > the brides and 70% of the grooms were from the parish, showing that it > is a fairly good assumption, if you haven't got the details, that the > bride at least was from the parish. ( I know you have to be careful of > the three-week residence rule upsetting this). > > Before 1754 it is a matter of luck if the origins of the couple are > recorded in registers, but in the parish I am looking at most of the > marriages from 1680 to 1753 show the parish of origin of the bride but > very few grooms, and nearly 75% of the brides were from elsewhere. I > am sure that some of this reflects a popularity of the parish that may > be related to slightly dodgy backgrounds of the participants, but does > it does suggest a major shift took place. Now as far as I know > Hardwicke had nothing to say about a preference for marrying in the > brides parish, so I am wondering how general it was and for how for > long it has been the habit of marrying in the brides parish. Any > ideas? > > Adrian > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have always assumed that, in the Church of England at any rate, it was and still is usual to marry in the bride's parish, which should be very useful in tracing family origins. Hardwicke's Marriage Act of 1753 required standardised information to be registered, including the parish of origin. I have been looking at the registers of a rural parish in Hampshire, and after 1754 93% of the brides and 70% of the grooms were from the parish, showing that it is a fairly good assumption, if you haven't got the details, that the bride at least was from the parish. ( I know you have to be careful of the three-week residence rule upsetting this). Before 1754 it is a matter of luck if the origins of the couple are recorded in registers, but in the parish I am looking at most of the marriages from 1680 to 1753 show the parish of origin of the bride but very few grooms, and nearly 75% of the brides were from elsewhere. I am sure that some of this reflects a popularity of the parish that may be related to slightly dodgy backgrounds of the participants, but does it does suggest a major shift took place. Now as far as I know Hardwicke had nothing to say about a preference for marrying in the brides parish, so I am wondering how general it was and for how for long it has been the habit of marrying in the brides parish. Any ideas? Adrian

Ancestry has "NZ Cemetery Records 1800-2007", originally transcribed by the New Zealand Society of Genealogists. I'm not too sure about it covering "every known cemetery in New Zealand" but it is certainly helpful, especially as many of entries refer to other family members buried in the same grave or commemorated on a headstone. Ann McDonald Corner ONS On 3 February 2015 at 11:16, mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi All, > A quick snippet on the NZ News was the announcement that the NZ > Burial/MI Index is or is going to be online; presumeably on Ancestry. It was > stated that it will cover every known cemetery in NZ, knowing how remote > some of these are it is an acheivement. > > Regards Tony > Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still > researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. > http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, My understanding of this Index was that it would contain marriages which took place 'outside' the UK and where BOTH participants were Registered Names of a One Name Study. However on the new website the description states ANY marriage will be acceptable. I also feel that the effort to create such an Index is being 'misguided' into being so general, we are after all The Guild Of ONE NAME STUDIES and do not want to produce another 'IGI' for lack of a better phrase and personally prefer 'quality over quantity'. I cannot see how that will benefit the Guild Members. Also in the same vein I cannot see why the BMD Vault exists. Of what benefit can the birth/death of a 'registered name' to any other ONS. Please beleive me I applaud the efforts of the people who are looking after these Indexes but I feel much work is being done without being truely related to the Guild and/or a One Name Study; we are a small society with very few resources and need to 'harvest' them very carefully. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

Hi All, A quick snippet on the NZ News was the announcement that the NZ Burial/MI Index is or is going to be online; presumeably on Ancestry. It was stated that it will cover every known cemetery in NZ, knowing how remote some of these are it is an acheivement. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

Hi All, Hope you have notice that the new website has received its first acclade, “Best Website for Jan 2015” by WDYTYA magazine, lets hope it is one of many to come. Well done to our webmaster Nigel OSBORNE. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

Hi One-Namers Everywhere My latest search is for Colonel Owen LAWES and his wife who were living at Petit Coin, Vallee de Rozal, St Martin Jersey, sadly I came across them on occasion of the death of their only daughter Jane Kathleen aged 17 on 23 Feb 1949, in Warrington Cheshire, she had joined the WRENS and was stationed at HMS Ariel. I wonder whether she was returned to Jersey for burial and wonder if her parents remained in Jersey and are buried there with their daughter, or returned whence they came, as so far as I can tell they were not Jersey folk. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

I was on the site yesterday (www.thegazette.co.uk/) and if you type your key words into the "Search" box, it should take you the version you need. I was looking at 1915 papers yesterday. Sheila -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Adkins via Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 AM To: GOONS LIST Subject: [G] Access to historic London Gazette Can anyone throw any light on what has happened to the historic versions of the London Gazette. I only seem to be able to get access to recent issues now that they have revamped the web site. Eileen _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The worldwide index was never intended to be limited to only marriages outside the UK with both participants were registered study names. I don't know where you got that idea. The Worldwide index was designed to allow members to search the marriages in another member's study to see if there was an overlap. To put it simply - I knew I had marriages that probably overlapped with other studies but was too lazy to go through my list of 5000 marriages, locate other study surnames and then send them notifications. Putting in a searchable index that another member could go through and if the marriage was new to them and contact me for more information seemed more reasonable. And hopefully someone else might have some marriages I didn't know about. Think of it as a dating game. The only requirement on a contributing member is a willingness to reply to inquiries. Since this index relies on contact, only minimal information is needed for each marriage - names, date, place. Marriages can be from any country Including the UK( esp. before GRO years). I take what people contribute and in some cases this does include GRO marriages. The new website allows the general public to see the numeric results of a search for their name - they don't see the marriages. However, even that much allows them to see that some of our members have information about their name as well. Guess you could call it 'bait' So you want to contribute - I make it as easy as possible Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________ From: mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> To: GOONS Forum <GOONS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: [G] Worldwide Marriage Index Hi All, My understanding of this Index was that it would contain marriages which took place 'outside' the UK and where BOTH participants were Registered Names of a One Name Study. However on the new website the description states ANY marriage will be acceptable. I also feel that the effort to create such an Index is being 'misguided' into being so general, we are after all The Guild Of ONE NAME STUDIES and do not want to produce another 'IGI' for lack of a better phrase and personally prefer 'quality over quantity'. I cannot see how that will benefit the Guild Members. Also in the same vein I cannot see why the BMD Vault exists. Of what benefit can the birth/death of a 'registered name' to any other ONS. Please beleive me I applaud the efforts of the people who are looking after these Indexes but I feel much work is being done without being truely related to the Guild and/or a One Name Study; we are a small society with very few resources and need to 'harvest' them very carefully. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone throw any light on what has happened to the historic versions of the London Gazette. I only seem to be able to get access to recent issues now that they have revamped the web site. Eileen

Taking photographs of other people's houses should be done with care and consideration - many people object strongly to this. I was engaged in an ill-advised effort to photograph a complete village's houses and was approached by two uncooperative individuals wielding large hammers. I subsequently had an interesting conversation with a local history society member who had taken part in an effort to photograph all the buildings in a nearby town, and was given the following advice: Always ask for permission first; if you can't locate the owner at the time, try to get permission later before using any photograph you have taken; Never enter the property without permission, such as trying to get a better view from the garden; As a general rule, never photograph the back of a house because people see this as giving information to potential burglars; It is a good move to stand as far away as possible to avoid antagonising people; a wide-angle street view can be used to show several houses rather than photograph each one; Be aware of CCTV and avoid photographing if you are going to be in the field of its view, to avoid possible later problems. I have photographed several houses lived in by ancestors and found that knocking on the door first and explaining the reason has always produced a very friendly response. Adrian

Tony I will be going through Upper Hale on Wednesday and would be happy to take a picture for you. Can't guarantee a top class picture, but if you haven't has a better offer ....... Just send me the address. Jeanne Bunting 3472 Attersley Sent from my iPhone 5 > On 1 Feb 2015, at 15:11, Tony Harris via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a > photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do > have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in > publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to Upper > Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the house > for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the > article. > > Tony Harris > #5904 > PHILO ONS > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you aren't having any luck with GOONS members living close enough to take the photo, you might want to try a request on somewhere like the rootschat forum. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/surrey/ perhaps in their lookup requests section. Corinne Curtis #5579 >> >>> On 1 Feb 2015, at 15:11, Tony Harris via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a >>> photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do >>> have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in >>> publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to Upper >>> Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the house >>> for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the >>> article. >>> >>> Tony Harris >>> #5904 >>> PHILO ONS

Copyright? Ron Ferguson GOONS #5307 Nick Serpell via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >What problems are you having taking a screen grab from Streetview? > >Nick > > >Nick Serpell >nick@serpell.org > > > >> On 1 Feb 2015, at 15:11, Tony Harris via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a >> photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do >> have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in >> publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to Upper >> Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the house >> for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the >> article. >> >> Tony Harris >> #5904 >> PHILO ONS >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Typically screen grabs are not of a sufficient resolution for use in print. The resolution for a computer screen is 72dpi. The minimum print resolution is 300dpi - the higher the better. Printing a 72dpi image will typically result in a pixelated and grainy photograph. Jim On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Tony Harris via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a > photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do > have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in > publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to Upper > Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the house > for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the > article. > > Tony Harris > #5904 > PHILO ONS > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Jim James M. Owston, EdD Owston One-Name Study #5647 owston@one-name.org http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?find=5647

Google has a bit of a cheek considering they didn’t ask permission to film the street in the first place! This from their copyright details. You may know this already "Street View imagery may be incorporated into your project if 1) the imagery comes directly from the Google Maps API or 2) the imagery is embedded or linked on your website using the HTML and URL provided on Google Maps. These solutions ensure that if Google edits or removes imagery in response to user requests, these changes will be reflected in your project as well. You may print Google-owned Street View content from Maps and Earth for personal use but not for distribution to others. If your project is both academic and non-commercial, you may also print a small number of Street View images (10 or fewer panoramas) for use in your materials, if the imagery does not contain people or identifiable vehicle number plates. In all cases, you must attribute the imagery to Google. If you have an academic and non-commercial request for Street View imagery that does not qualify under these guidelines, you may contact us at streetview-academic@google.com with the details of your project to request permission. No other print uses of Street View imagery are allowed. Note that some imagery in Street View is provided by entities other than Google, as indicated in its photo credits; in those instances permission must be obtained from the third party. If your project meets the requirements above, no explicit permission is required for your project. We are unable to sign any letter or contract specifying that your project has our explicit permission.” I use the Google API on TNG, it’s built into the software, therefore there isn’t a problem. I can see how a magazine is different Nick Serpell nick@serpell.org > On 1 Feb 2015, at 16:37, Merryl Wells via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Wouldn't it be more polite to ask the present owner of the house for a > photo? > > Have you googled the address? I've twice looked up an address of a house > for family history purposes and found estate agents literature where there > were good photos of the front and back plus various rooms. If I'd wished to > publish them I expect the estate agent or owner would agree that I could at > least use the external photos. > > Presumably from the Google View the house is viewable to photograph from the > road/pavement? I wanted to see a modern day view of a bungalow I lived at c > 1949 in Letchworth, Herts., only it now has a very high hedge, can't even > see the roof on Google's street view. > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Harris via" <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: <goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 3:11 PM > Subject: [G] Help with photo please > > >> I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a >> photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do >> have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in >> publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to >> Upper >> Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the >> house >> for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the >> article. >> >> Tony Harris >> #5904 >> PHILO ONS >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have you looked to see if there's a photo on 'Geograph' you could use? Ian Shankland On 01/02/2015 16:37, Merryl Wells via wrote: > Wouldn't it be more polite to ask the present owner of the house for a > photo? > > Have you googled the address? I've twice looked up an address of a house > for family history purposes and found estate agents literature where there > were good photos of the front and back plus various rooms. If I'd wished to > publish them I expect the estate agent or owner would agree that I could at > least use the external photos. > > Presumably from the Google View the house is viewable to photograph from the > road/pavement? I wanted to see a modern day view of a bungalow I lived at c > 1949 in Letchworth, Herts., only it now has a very high hedge, can't even > see the roof on Google's street view. > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Harris via" <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: <goons@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 3:11 PM > Subject: [G] Help with photo please > > >> I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a >> photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do >> have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in >> publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to >> Upper >> Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the >> house >> for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the >> article. >> >> Tony Harris >> #5904 >> PHILO ONS >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wouldn't it be more polite to ask the present owner of the house for a photo? Have you googled the address? I've twice looked up an address of a house for family history purposes and found estate agents literature where there were good photos of the front and back plus various rooms. If I'd wished to publish them I expect the estate agent or owner would agree that I could at least use the external photos. Presumably from the Google View the house is viewable to photograph from the road/pavement? I wanted to see a modern day view of a bungalow I lived at c 1949 in Letchworth, Herts., only it now has a very high hedge, can't even see the roof on Google's street view. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Harris via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 3:11 PM Subject: [G] Help with photo please >I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a > photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do > have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in > publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to > Upper > Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the > house > for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the > article. > > Tony Harris > #5904 > PHILO ONS > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

What problems are you having taking a screen grab from Streetview? Nick Nick Serpell nick@serpell.org > On 1 Feb 2015, at 15:11, Tony Harris via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am intending to write an article for JOONS and I would like to include a > photograph of a house in Upper Hale, Farnham, Surrey in the article. I do > have a photo taken from Google Street View but there are difficulties in > publishing a picture from that source. Is there a GOON living close to Upper > Hale who would be prepared to take a digital photograph for me of the house > for me? Full credit to the photographer will of course be given in the > article. > > Tony Harris > #5904 > PHILO ONS > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >