Mine arrived too: very many thanks to Bob Young for his generosity. Bob, would you like a CD of recordings by Nolan Ranger and his Band (a South African band of yesteryear, who used to play light music on South African radio) in return, for your Ranger ONS? Nolan Ranger eventually married my father's second wife... and died at a good old age in 2014. Geoff 5389 On 6 February 2015 at 16:13, Derek Atherton via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Very many thanks to Bob Young for undertaking this challenge - my CD arrived > safely today and it has been very helpful (not only Marriages but Births & > Deaths too!). > > I shall be watching closely for your next County Challenge in Massachusetts > - thanks for the warning! > > Very much appreciated Bob - Thank you! > > Derek > > ATHERTON One-Name Study > Guild of One Name Studies (5039) > atherton@one-name.org > www.athertonons.com > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Geoff Chew geoffchew1@gmail.com

Very many thanks to Bob Young for undertaking this challenge - my CD arrived safely today and it has been very helpful (not only Marriages but Births & Deaths too!). I shall be watching closely for your next County Challenge in Massachusetts - thanks for the warning! Very much appreciated Bob - Thank you! Derek ATHERTON One-Name Study Guild of One Name Studies (5039) atherton@one-name.org www.athertonons.com

Hi All, Is there anywhere where there is a list of prospective committee members or at least who is still 'standing/willing' to stand. As indicated by the recent News Flash that several of the 'old' committee are no longer able/willing to serve next year. I have tried the Minutes of the 31 Jan 2015 meeting but as of yet they are not available, even in draft form. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

If you haven't done your NZ research yet, now is the time. We have a long weekend here, starting today (Waitangi Day), and the indexes are available from now until midnight on Monday (NZ time) One of the problems we have noticed, particularly with the BDM index, is that the place names in many cases are wrong. I haven't heard of too many issues with the cemetery index yet, so fingers crossed. If there is anything that you aren't sure of, please email me direct and I will check it out. Cheers, Anne 5083 Ancestry.com.au thanks the NZSG with free access to the online Ancestry cemetery collection Ben Mercer from Ancestry.com.au thanked the volunteers at the launch on Monday, for their contribution over 40 years, that has culminated in making this information available to researchers worldwide. To acknowledge the NZSG members and New Zealand there will be free access to the online Ancestry cemetery collection [actually ALL NZ collections, see below], this Waitangi weekend. The Waitangi Day open database includes all of the Ancestry NZ collection - over 35 million records - from midnight Thursday, Feb 5 to midnight Monday, Feb 9. Click here for access. Here are the campaign Terms and Conditions: The open Ancestry databases are available to anyone who can access Ancestry.com.au on a browser and it doesn't require a code, voucher or coupon of any sort. The user, if they're not already an Ancestry member, will be asked to register to view the objects related to the NZ collections and to subscribe if they move outside of the NZ collections records made free for the weekend. You don't have to have a subscription to view the New Zealand records but you will have to register if you're not already an Ancestry member. To register, you will be asked for your name and email address. We will then send you a user name and password to access the records. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured New Zealand collections using an Ancestry paid membership. All NZ records - over 35 million records - are free to view this weekend from Friday morning 12am NZ time until Monday 11.59pm NZ Time

Tony The meeting was on saturday january 31 and today is thursday. The guild is made up of volunteers. We might want to give them some time to get the minutes up. I have found the committee and the secretary to be quite timely. Tessa On Thu, Feb 5, 2015, 3:46 PM mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi All, > Is there anywhere where there is a list of prospective committee > members or at least who is still 'standing/willing' to stand. As indicated > by the recent News Flash that several of the 'old' committee are no longer > able/willing to serve next year. > I have tried the Minutes of the 31 Jan 2015 meeting but as of yet they are > not available, even in draft form. > > Regards Tony > Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still > researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. > http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb. > ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In case it's of interest there is a lot of material on the subject of DNA testing in the ISOGG Wiki: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/ The beginners' guides listed here might be of particular interest: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guides_to_genetic_genealogy Best wishes Debbie

All we got for the URL was "Click here for access" - the actual URL was lost in the transfer to plain text. If you click on your view of it and then copy the URL from your browser's address bar and paste it directly into a message it should work. I do have an Ancestry World Subscription, but I always find it useful to have their links to a complete collection. Many thanks Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Brady via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 6:16 PM Subject: [G] NZ indexes FREE online this weekend If you haven't done your NZ research yet, now is the time. We have a long weekend here, starting today (Waitangi Day), and the indexes are available from now until midnight on Monday (NZ time) One of the problems we have noticed, particularly with the BDM index, is that the place names in many cases are wrong. I haven't heard of too many issues with the cemetery index yet, so fingers crossed. If there is anything that you aren't sure of, please email me direct and I will check it out. Cheers, Anne 5083 Ancestry.com.au thanks the NZSG with free access to the online Ancestry cemetery collection Ben Mercer from Ancestry.com.au thanked the volunteers at the launch on Monday, for their contribution over 40 years, that has culminated in making this information available to researchers worldwide. To acknowledge the NZSG members and New Zealand there will be free access to the online Ancestry cemetery collection [actually ALL NZ collections, see below], this Waitangi weekend. The Waitangi Day open database includes all of the Ancestry NZ collection - over 35 million records - from midnight Thursday, Feb 5 to midnight Monday, Feb 9. Click here for access. Here are the campaign Terms and Conditions: The open Ancestry databases are available to anyone who can access Ancestry.com.au on a browser and it doesn't require a code, voucher or coupon of any sort. The user, if they're not already an Ancestry member, will be asked to register to view the objects related to the NZ collections and to subscribe if they move outside of the NZ collections records made free for the weekend. You don't have to have a subscription to view the New Zealand records but you will have to register if you're not already an Ancestry member. To register, you will be asked for your name and email address. We will then send you a user name and password to access the records. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured New Zealand collections using an Ancestry paid membership. All NZ records - over 35 million records - are free to view this weekend from Friday morning 12am NZ time until Monday 11.59pm NZ Time

So it could be just the Church of choice? although the later baptism was register in the Doncaster RD. So that maybe throws a spanner in the works, I need to follow up with Census extracts which might give me a clue as to where the family was, but the list of "to find out more" is growing Paul 2627 On 05/02/2015 16:16, Richard Hooke wrote: > Hi Paul > On the face of it ,since Austerfield is in South Yorkshire, formerly West > Riding of Yorkshire and lies on the Yorkshire /Nottingham border. > If you check St Helena church Austerfield it ,currently, is in the diocese > of Nottingham and Southwell > Hope this is of use > Regards > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of W Paul Featherstone via > Sent: 05 February 2015 15:43 > To: Goons Mailing-list > Subject: [G] Nottinghamshire query > > Hi Folks, > I am working my way through the recently release Nottinghamshire > Transcriptions on Find My Past some 303 baptisms 252 marriages and 108 > deaths, at the same time trying to put the families together. > > I have lots of John's, William's and Mary's and Samuel is proving to be a > poplar name too, so it is proving a bit of a nightmare, however some > successes. > > I have two particular baptisms which are included in the transcriptions > which appear to be in Austerfield , the church of St Helena, as far as I can > make out this falls in the Doncaster RD. When I came across the second one I > thought this has to be the same family but since one occurs in 1881 and the > other in 1715, obviously not. > > Can anyone explain why two Baptisms so far apart in years would be recorded > in Nottinghamshire Transcriptions? > > Paul 2627 > Up to his neck in Featherstone's and variants > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paul On the face of it ,since Austerfield is in South Yorkshire, formerly West Riding of Yorkshire and lies on the Yorkshire /Nottingham border. If you check St Helena church Austerfield it ,currently, is in the diocese of Nottingham and Southwell Hope this is of use Regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W Paul Featherstone via Sent: 05 February 2015 15:43 To: Goons Mailing-list Subject: [G] Nottinghamshire query Hi Folks, I am working my way through the recently release Nottinghamshire Transcriptions on Find My Past some 303 baptisms 252 marriages and 108 deaths, at the same time trying to put the families together. I have lots of John's, William's and Mary's and Samuel is proving to be a poplar name too, so it is proving a bit of a nightmare, however some successes. I have two particular baptisms which are included in the transcriptions which appear to be in Austerfield , the church of St Helena, as far as I can make out this falls in the Doncaster RD. When I came across the second one I thought this has to be the same family but since one occurs in 1881 and the other in 1715, obviously not. Can anyone explain why two Baptisms so far apart in years would be recorded in Nottinghamshire Transcriptions? Paul 2627 Up to his neck in Featherstone's and variants _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks, I am working my way through the recently release Nottinghamshire Transcriptions on Find My Past some 303 baptisms 252 marriages and 108 deaths, at the same time trying to put the families together. I have lots of John's, William's and Mary's and Samuel is proving to be a poplar name too, so it is proving a bit of a nightmare, however some successes. I have two particular baptisms which are included in the transcriptions which appear to be in Austerfield , the church of St Helena, as far as I can make out this falls in the Doncaster RD. When I came across the second one I thought this has to be the same family but since one occurs in 1881 and the other in 1715, obviously not. Can anyone explain why two Baptisms so far apart in years would be recorded in Nottinghamshire Transcriptions? Paul 2627 Up to his neck in Featherstone's and variants

Thank you for this. Despite doing genetics as my third year project in medical school, I still sometimes have problems getting to grips with it when related to family trees. This confirms that I understand the Y-DNA fairly well (I think). Have to mention thought, when and how was is found that males got any part of the X from their father? It was along while ago that I did the genetics and it is a quickly changing area of study. Nikki #6552 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corinne Curtis via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: goons@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 4 February, 2015 1:48:30 PM Subject: [G] feedback request I've been trying to find an easy way of explaining DNA to drum up more support for my surname study,and have put a post on my blog https://sennettfamilytree.wordpress.com/ entitled "Genealogical DNA for Dummies". Not being a DNA expert at all, but just wanting to get folk enthused about the possibilities, I'm not sure if my post has hit the mark. I'd therefore be interested to get any feedback on whether folk here think what I have written explains enough (but not too much) that it would encourage someone to look a bit more into taking a DNA test. In the interests of not clogging up the mailing list, it might be easier to send feedback directly to me at sennett@one-name.org Thanks. Corinne Curtis #5579 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I have looked at the 'homepage' of the new website and have tried the surname search and have read the 'further instructions' with the result that ONLY registered names will produce any results, so how can it be claimed that any 'old name' can found? What am I doing wrong? Dissention, I thought it was healthy discussion of different views! Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

Hi All, I forgot to add that I apologise to the apparent 'delays' in my replies, being in New Zealand my 'time' is 12 hours ahead of GMT, that is if you ignore Daylight Saving/British Summer Times. I often wonder if I am replying to messages before they are written :-)) Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

Hi All, I stand corrected by Anne, within the GMI there are non-registered names arising from the list created by the CP's, maybe this should be addressed. The names attached to a CP are not truly necessary as the idea of a CP is to identify the pages that given in the GRO that have been allocated to a particular Church, thus having identified the Church the details of the marriage might be found. Nevertheless I still beleive that the WWMI should only contain at least one registered name otherwise it will replicate so many other indexes with so many doubtful validities created by organisation with far more 'people' resources than the Guild. I had noted that subject of the Guild Indexes had been discussed many times but chose to pick out those two to save 'space'. Regards Tony Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk.

There's possibly a similar situation with North-East Suffolk (roughly Mutford RD) which is in the diocese of Norwich and thus the parish records are in the Norfolk Record Office, several, but not all of the parishes transferring to Norfolk in 1974. Paul On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Richard Hooke via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Paul > On the face of it ,since Austerfield is in South Yorkshire, formerly West > Riding of Yorkshire and lies on the Yorkshire /Nottingham border. > If you check St Helena church Austerfield it ,currently, is in the diocese > of Nottingham and Southwell > Hope this is of use > Regards > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of W Paul Featherstone via > Sent: 05 February 2015 15:43 > To: Goons Mailing-list > Subject: [G] Nottinghamshire query > > Hi Folks, > I am working my way through the recently release Nottinghamshire > Transcriptions on Find My Past some 303 baptisms 252 marriages and 108 > deaths, at the same time trying to put the families together. > > I have lots of John's, William's and Mary's and Samuel is proving to be a > poplar name too, so it is proving a bit of a nightmare, however some > successes. > > I have two particular baptisms which are included in the transcriptions > which appear to be in Austerfield , the church of St Helena, as far as I can > make out this falls in the Doncaster RD. When I came across the second one I > thought this has to be the same family but since one occurs in 1881 and the > other in 1715, obviously not. > > Can anyone explain why two Baptisms so far apart in years would be recorded > in Nottinghamshire Transcriptions? > > Paul 2627 > Up to his neck in Featherstone's and variants > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

Marie, I think you might have meant the BMD Vault, not the GMI. The GMI and the Worldwide Marriage Index are similar in that they don't provide the full details of the marriage, they just provide the link to enable you to contact the other researcher. The GMI holds (in addition to the GRO reference data) the names of the two parties to the marriage, the date, the place where the marriage took place, and the membership number of the contributor. When I wrote the scripts for the Worldwide Marriage Index I originally envisaged it as a worldwide complement to the GMI. The Vault, on the other hand, contains almost all the detail from the marriage document. So in the case of marriages in England and Wales, it can provide also the ages of the marriage partners, their occupations, their marital status, their fathers' names and occupations, as well as the names of the witnesses and even of the minister or registrar performing the ceremony. It originated as a means to make available all the information held in marriage certificates within the Guild Library, but has since expanded way beyond that. I particularly like the serendipity of finding one's study name included as a witness or even a minister within the BMD Vault - I don't believe that such occurrences are indexed anywhere else. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Byatt via" <goons@rootsweb.com> To: "Paul Howes" <paul@howesfamilies.com>; <goons@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [G] -WWMI -GMI. > Paul - you definitely have a gift for words. > > One other point - not all the indexes are trying to achieve the same > thing - perhaps the Worldwide one should be called a collection. With the > GMI - all the information is there - you really don't need to contact > another party. The worldwide index relies on the contact with the other > member that 'shares' the marriage. Our members are experts on their > studies and establishing contact with them is far more than answering a > random query on a message board. > The GMI is like an reference book - full of information but only on one > topic > The Worldwide is more like meeting a teacher - still full of information > but the interaction can lead you down other roads as well. > You choose which you prefer - I like using both. > > Marie (GOONS 5318) > > > Bringing the world together one surname at a time. > 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com > 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com > Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ > 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > > > ________________________________ > From: Paul Howes via <goons@rootsweb.com> > To: mingay <mingay@xtra.co.nz>; goons@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [G] -WWMI -GMI. > > > Hello Tony. I'm not sure what you are saying, I'm afraid. I just > input the name Radcliff, which is not a name under study, and got a > few answers. When I clicked on them, I went almost straight to the > results. I could see that first the Guild site looked at the cookie > on my PC and accepted that I am a member. I suppose that non-members > must get a reply saying sorry, but you need to join. > > I'll try to give you a fresh perspective on the worldwide index which > I have supported since its birth. I remember even getting slapped > around during its conception but I'm not going to take that analogy > any farther! I'm happy with all manner of data contributed from > members, rather than just names under study, for several reasons: > 1) One of the unique attributes of the Guild is the collaborative > spirit of its membership. We aren't just plowing our own furrows but > helping others with their ploughs too. Especially in these more > selfish times since the innternet personalized everything, I bow down > before all of those folks who do marriage challenges, produce cardinal > points or volunteer for posts in the management of the Guild. None of > those are practical for me right now but recognizing the efforts of > others I do my best to give back to the Guild in other ways and I > believe many others feel that way too, by supporting the growth of > indexes. As someone who has stood on a stand at shows, it's easy to > talk about how collaborative people are but in the past it has't been > as easy as it is now to demonstrate it just by running a surname > search. > > 2) The more you see others contribute the more it is a reminder to do > your share/give back and so on. > > 3) I remember too the fear I had when I began that I didn't know where > to start. It's a lot easier to take on or begin a study when you can > see that you can click on a button and interact with someone who has > already contributed some data for you. It may not be a lot of data > but it breaks the psychological wall. It also demonstrates > collaboration to new people. > > 4) Most of our names under study are of British Isles origin or have > been there long enough that they feel British. Some folks accuse us > of British bias. We all know that we don't mean to be that way and > that the principles we use are useful to a single-name studies > wherever the main concentrations of that name are. If we restricted > our index data only to study names, we'd never get away from that > British-bias perspective, The good news is that within each of our > studies, as we pursue our own names we end up with all kinds of > surnames from around the world. Each may have a few, but when we add > them all together we have a lot. Would you have guessed that the > Guild has more occurrences of the name Lopez in our indexes than we > have for Radcliff? I certainly wouldn't. Lopez as just the first > really non-British surname I thought of and I know it's not a fair > comparison to Radcliff but it did surprise me. > > 5) Finally, there's the push versus pull factor. I admit that I don't > check every surname I come across in my study and contact another > member if the name is under study. With such a large study I wouldn't > get anything done. Much better to put it in a central store and have > others tap into it when they feel like it and contact me if they want > more. I've had a couple so far, which is just fine. > > Hope this helps a bit > Paul > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:13 PM, mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> I have looked at the 'homepage' of the new website and have >> tried >> the surname search and have read the 'further instructions' with the >> result >> that ONLY registered names will produce any results, so how can it be >> claimed that any 'old name' can found? What am I doing wrong? >> >> Dissention, I thought it was healthy discussion of different views! >> >> >> Regards Tony >> Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still >> researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. >> http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Paul Howes > www.howesfamilies.com > Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Mark ~ I didn't know about stamps.com, however it seems that the postage has to be used on the day of printing so, in this particular case, it won't work I'm afraid. But good to know about it. Thank you very much for the offer of being a go-between - in other circs that's exactly what I'd want but Paul Howes has already volunteered to provide a solution. I should have guessed that GOONs would come up trumps...and in double quick time! best Anne H. 1020 LYFORD & spamalot On 4.2.15 21:16, Mark Bunch wrote: > Hi Ann, > > > You can print your own U.S. postage via stamps.com, but I'm not sure how you would calculate the correct amount -- just go a bit overboard, I guess. Otherwise, would you be willing to have a 3rd party stateside serve as a go-between? I'd be more than willing to do that (only because you said "Pythonesque"), even though I'm about as far away from Massachusetts as you can get outside of Alaska and Hawaii. > > > -Mark Bunch > > Othello, Washington, USA > > GOONS #6223 > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 20:58:36 +0000 >> To: GOONS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [G] Massachusetts marriage >> From: goons@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> I have a Pythonesque problem getting details of a marriage from >> the City Clerk’s office in XXX,Massachusetts & wondered if anyone >> has hit similar, & whether they found an answer. Bear in mind that >> I live in the UK. >> >> FEES: The fee is $20 & should be paid using cash or a money order. >> No personal cheques are acceptable. I offered to pay via Visa but >> that’s not acceptable. I offered PayPay (and I would bear the cost >> of the charges which usually accrue to the recipient) but that’s not >> acceptable either. Mentally resigned myself to getting the dollars. >> >> POSTAGE: Subsequently I was told that I must provide “a self >> addressed pre paid envelope”. >> I explained that the website of the US Embassy in London >> says”"There is no retail outlet for U.S. stamps in the UK". >> I offered to pay the postage costs by adding extra dollars to the >> amount I would be sending. That’s not acceptable..... “The City of >> XXX does not have the means to send mail to England.” >> >> To get around the thorny postage problem I asked if the item could >> be scanned & sent as an attachment to an email....guess what - >> they “can not send Vital Records via email”! >> >> The one pro-active suggestion made by this department was that >> they had a mailer who used FEDEX. Not being familiar with >> Fedex I’ve pottered around their website, but think I must >> (surely!) have misunderstood the calculation process as it appears >> to be quoting US$56 or $81 depending on urgency. >> >> Ideas anyone??? >> >> best >> Anne H. >> 1020 Lyford >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the fast reply. I didn't know about the Ancestry 'partner' scheme. If still needed after I've heard back from Paul Howes, I shall check that out. best Anne H. On 4.2.15 21:18, Lawrence Tristram wrote: > One thing I used a few years ago to get a Death certificate was via an Ancestry ‘partner’. Ancestry had a list of people who could visit the office and obtain a copy of what you want, then post it to you. > I am not sure whether they still do that, though. > > Lawrence Tristram > >> On 4 Feb 2015, at 20:58, anne higham via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have a Pythonesque problem getting details of a marriage from >> the City Clerk’s office in XXX,Massachusetts & wondered if anyone >> has hit similar, & whether they found an answer. Bear in mind that >> I live in the UK. >> >> FEES: The fee is $20 & should be paid using cash or a money order. >> No personal cheques are acceptable. I offered to pay via Visa but >> that’s not acceptable. I offered PayPay (and I would bear the cost >> of the charges which usually accrue to the recipient) but that’s not >> acceptable either. Mentally resigned myself to getting the dollars. >> >> POSTAGE: Subsequently I was told that I must provide “a self >> addressed pre paid envelope”. >> I explained that the website of the US Embassy in London >> says”"There is no retail outlet for U.S. stamps in the UK". >> I offered to pay the postage costs by adding extra dollars to the >> amount I would be sending. That’s not acceptable..... “The City of >> XXX does not have the means to send mail to England.” >> >> To get around the thorny postage problem I asked if the item could >> be scanned & sent as an attachment to an email....guess what - >> they “can not send Vital Records via email”! >> >> The one pro-active suggestion made by this department was that >> they had a mailer who used FEDEX. Not being familiar with >> Fedex I’ve pottered around their website, but think I must >> (surely!) have misunderstood the calculation process as it appears >> to be quoting US$56 or $81 depending on urgency. >> >> Ideas anyone??? >> >> best >> Anne H. >> 1020 Lyford >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Tony. I'm not sure what you are saying, I'm afraid. I just input the name Radcliff, which is not a name under study, and got a few answers. When I clicked on them, I went almost straight to the results. I could see that first the Guild site looked at the cookie on my PC and accepted that I am a member. I suppose that non-members must get a reply saying sorry, but you need to join. I'll try to give you a fresh perspective on the worldwide index which I have supported since its birth. I remember even getting slapped around during its conception but I'm not going to take that analogy any farther! I'm happy with all manner of data contributed from members, rather than just names under study, for several reasons: 1) One of the unique attributes of the Guild is the collaborative spirit of its membership. We aren't just plowing our own furrows but helping others with their ploughs too. Especially in these more selfish times since the innternet personalized everything, I bow down before all of those folks who do marriage challenges, produce cardinal points or volunteer for posts in the management of the Guild. None of those are practical for me right now but recognizing the efforts of others I do my best to give back to the Guild in other ways and I believe many others feel that way too, by supporting the growth of indexes. As someone who has stood on a stand at shows, it's easy to talk about how collaborative people are but in the past it has't been as easy as it is now to demonstrate it just by running a surname search. 2) The more you see others contribute the more it is a reminder to do your share/give back and so on. 3) I remember too the fear I had when I began that I didn't know where to start. It's a lot easier to take on or begin a study when you can see that you can click on a button and interact with someone who has already contributed some data for you. It may not be a lot of data but it breaks the psychological wall. It also demonstrates collaboration to new people. 4) Most of our names under study are of British Isles origin or have been there long enough that they feel British. Some folks accuse us of British bias. We all know that we don't mean to be that way and that the principles we use are useful to a single-name studies wherever the main concentrations of that name are. If we restricted our index data only to study names, we'd never get away from that British-bias perspective, The good news is that within each of our studies, as we pursue our own names we end up with all kinds of surnames from around the world. Each may have a few, but when we add them all together we have a lot. Would you have guessed that the Guild has more occurrences of the name Lopez in our indexes than we have for Radcliff? I certainly wouldn't. Lopez as just the first really non-British surname I thought of and I know it's not a fair comparison to Radcliff but it did surprise me. 5) Finally, there's the push versus pull factor. I admit that I don't check every surname I come across in my study and contact another member if the name is under study. With such a large study I wouldn't get anything done. Much better to put it in a central store and have others tap into it when they feel like it and contact me if they want more. I've had a couple so far, which is just fine. Hope this helps a bit Paul On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:13 PM, mingay via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi All, > I have looked at the 'homepage' of the new website and have tried > the surname search and have read the 'further instructions' with the result > that ONLY registered names will produce any results, so how can it be > claimed that any 'old name' can found? What am I doing wrong? > > Dissention, I thought it was healthy discussion of different views! > > > Regards Tony > Anthony John MINGAY, now in NZ once of Kent & Suffolk, England but still > researching Worldwide the surname MINGAY & its variants. > http://www.mingayhistory.co.uk. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Paul Howes www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

Many thanks for the swift response. However, I need a 1937 marriage so this particular approach won't work this time. Good to know though best Anne H. On 4.2.15 21:17, Robert Young wrote: > Anne (and Paul), > > If the marriage occurred prior to 1911, I can provide faux certificates for them from published VR’s. Send the details and I’ll what I can. > > Bob Young > Danbury, CT > > RangerONS 2940 > > > On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Paul Howes via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Anne, please contact me off list. I can offer a solution >> Paul >> >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:58 PM, anne higham via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a Pythonesque problem getting details of a marriage from >>> the City Clerk’s office in XXX,Massachusetts & wondered if anyone >>> has hit similar, & whether they found an answer. Bear in mind that >>> I live in the UK. >>> >>> FEES: The fee is $20 & should be paid using cash or a money order. >>> No personal cheques are acceptable. I offered to pay via Visa but >>> that’s not acceptable. I offered PayPay (and I would bear the cost >>> of the charges which usually accrue to the recipient) but that’s not >>> acceptable either. Mentally resigned myself to getting the dollars. >>> >>> POSTAGE: Subsequently I was told that I must provide “a self >>> addressed pre paid envelope”. >>> I explained that the website of the US Embassy in London >>> says”"There is no retail outlet for U.S. stamps in the UK". >>> I offered to pay the postage costs by adding extra dollars to the >>> amount I would be sending. That’s not acceptable..... “The City of >>> XXX does not have the means to send mail to England.” >>> >>> To get around the thorny postage problem I asked if the item could >>> be scanned & sent as an attachment to an email....guess what - >>> they “can not send Vital Records via email”! >>> >>> The one pro-active suggestion made by this department was that >>> they had a mailer who used FEDEX. Not being familiar with >>> Fedex I’ve pottered around their website, but think I must >>> (surely!) have misunderstood the calculation process as it appears >>> to be quoting US$56 or $81 depending on urgency. >>> >>> Ideas anyone??? >>> >>> best >>> Anne H. >>> 1020 Lyford >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> Paul Howes >> www.howesfamilies.com >> Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >