John In 1891 Edith Laws & Ernest G Laws are there with the father Michael G Laws in Heaton, Newcastle on Tyne. The only Ernest G Laws aged 4 there! Derek Allen (Goon 216) -- researching Codgbrook & Westerdale

Thanks John I see that they have now fixed the problem concerning the inability to locate a will for someone who died in 1995, but did not have probate granted until 1996, which was the major problem when this first came out in December. Maria 6393 Belcher, Los and Youle -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: 07 February 2015 23:11 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] A New Site for wills Hi One-Namers Everywhere The Government have made wills available online. The Index is FREE but the wills themselves are £10 which you can order online but may take up to 4 weeks to arrive. The site is at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk though I found it via a Google search of Gov.UK/Probate-Wills https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate Regards John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI John Thank you, I've already found about 20, including a great uncle, who, as far as I knew, didn't leave a will. It's help pin down a few spouses and daughters as well. Caryl Still looking for Pett -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: 07 February 2015 23:11 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] A New Site for wills Hi One-Namers Everywhere The Government have made wills available online. The Index is FREE but the wills themselves are £10 which you can order online but may take up to 4 weeks to arrive. The site is at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk though I found it via a Google search of Gov.UK/Probate-Wills https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate Regards John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi One-Namers Everywhere, Today's search has been for the father of Ernyst Graham LAWS born 1886 Croydon SRY (Science Teacher, BSc Oxford MA 1st Hon BA Oxford) Died 1974 Oxford. I find him on the 1901 census with his mother Edith LAWS (Married Schoolteacher)she was born 1863 Bristol, but can't find them in 1891 census. I did consider that she may have been unmarried but doubted that a single mother in that time would have been able to put a son through Oxford. So who and what was the father? Any Ideas you sleuths. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

About 10 years ago I used Lulu.com to self-publish and print a physical book (not an e-book) of one of my studies. Looking at what is available now for self-publishing, does any member have experience using Amazon's CreateSpace for ONS or family history publishing purposes? If yes, please share your experience. Dick Chandler in Salmon Arm, British Columbia, Canada

I too, have a difficult person in my study. I've been working on him for about 6 years now - his descendents considerably longer. He is Jan Hendrick ( Johann Heinrich) Pepler born 1741 in or around Kassel, Hessen, Germany . There is an IGI batch record that is probably him with a birth in 1739 but neither exact date or parents are given. In 1759, he went to South Africa where he prospered, married and is the ancestor of nearly every Pepler in South Africa today. From 1759 onwards, he is very well documented and revered. What we need are his parents. I have DNA results from one of Jan's descendents and they are a very close match to another German lineage. We are now trying to find a link but without his parents....... I've just finished processing about 1000 Pepler/Peppler/Bepler/Beppler and similar records from Hessen with no luck. SO any clue is appreciated at this point Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com ________________________________

John, I have a transcription of a diary kept during a voyage in 1838 (UK to Australia) the Master John Hardman LISTER with wife Susanna (nee PYMBLE) aboard. This amusing entry by the diarist: (from other entries it is clear that the diarist was not at all keen on Susanna) Saturday 7th April Last night the Pilot left the ship and this morning the wind has increased and was still the same direction – so here we must stay for a change – the steward forgot to bring any bread with him and as the oven was not yet in order we had nothing but biscuit to eat which to me having no teeth is quite a task. Mrs Fowles today is rather poorly but not sick altho the motion had been very great – Mrs Lister by way of consolation says the water is quite smooth and we shall have something more like motion before we get to the end of our journey – she is constantly gratuitous by encouraging or rather discouraging the timid with tales of horror. – She has been round the world three times and has retained nothing but the most horrible and unpleasant occurrences. and more tragically Saturday 30 June Today the weather continued much as it was yesterday & day before – but we had a pleasant sunshine instead of rain – We had a service to perform today which does not often occur on board ship – a funeral. On Saturday last Henry [LISTER son Capt LISTER and Susanna aged 2] of died – and from that day Mrs Lister determined to keep him if possible a week -–she has borne with great fortitude the loss and was piously resigned to it as the will of the Father to all of us who gave him to her. This morning when the time proposed had come she wished him to be kept another day but the Captain had given his orders, and as it was deemed silly to postpone it longer – it took place. So not just a wife on board but a young child also. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 7:53 PM To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: [G] Do we have any Maritime 'Experts'

Not only could the master's wife travel, but she might give birth during the voyage, as in the case of one member of my ONS. Full marks to the vicar who baptised him on their return to England, and helpfully noted in the register: "This child was born 15 March 1855 on board barque Walsoken on homeward voyage from Ceylon." The wife concerned seems to have been acquired on an earlier voyage, because she came from Memel in East Prussia (now Klaipeda in Lithuania). Chris Pitt Lewis GOONS Member 2137 - BRIGSTOCK(E)/BRIDG(E)STOCK/BRICKSTOCK On 07/02/2015 23:35, Jim Owston via wrote: > John: > > Masters on merchant vessels were in charge of the ship under the > auspices of the owners. This is unlike masters in the Royal Navy who > were warrant officers (and eventually commissioned as commanders) and > were only in charge of the navigation and stowage. Sometimes they had > other duties as assigned. The captain was in charge of the ship in > the RN. The master in the merchant service was the de facto captain > and was often known by that courtesy title. > > Family were permitted to travel. It appears that the entire lot of my > 3rd great grandfather's family of 8 were living aboard the ship of his > last merchant master's position. > > You may want to check if logs exist. I learned a great deal from the > master's log from one of the RN ships on which my ancestor served. > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Thanks for the link John, much appreciated. Kind Wishes Evelyn O'Connor Roope/Rope ONS On 8 February 2015 at 00:10, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > The Government have made wills available online. The Index is FREE but the > wills themselves are £10 which you can order online but may take up to 4 > weeks to arrive. > The site is at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk though I found it via a > Google search of Gov.UK/Probate-Wills https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate > > Regards > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com > > www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John Shipping movements, and events associated with the ships, are mentioned frequently in the newspapers of the time and the name of the ship's master is generally given, eg "Blanche" Laws, so you could search through the papers at FMP or http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ It wasn't uncommon for the master's wife to travel with him. My gt grandmother travelled with gt grandfather a number of times, along with her dog! The children sometimes went as well, when they weren't at school I assume. Ann McDonald Corner ONS On 8 February 2015 at 08:52, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > Around the year 1976 I extracted the following from Lloyds Registers and > started looking at ships logs at the PRO in Chancery Lane, now starting over > and reviewing my research. > I took these to be the voyages of my g g grandfather Henry LAWS 1800-1880 > some years H LAWS appeared in the records other years just LAWS appeared. > > > 1833 - 38 Master of Barque "Blanche" Shepherd & Co London - St.Kitts > 1838 - 39 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Nevis Owner Pochley > 1839 - 40 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene - West Indies > 1842 - 43 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Pochley - West Indies > 1843 - 50 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene West Indies > 1854 - 64 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies > 1864 - 65 Master of Barque "Devonshire" > 1865 - 74 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies > 1875 - 80 Master of Barque "Nautilus" W Binney - London - West Indies > > Masters ticket issued 10 Mar 1850 - 43021- PRO BT122-6 > > By an order of the Board of Trade, in 1845 voluntary examinations of > competency for men intending to become masters or mates of foreign-going > British Merchant ships, this was made compulsory in 1850 an exemption was > made for men considered to have sufficient experience were eligible without > formal examination. > > C24644 pensioned Certificate received by Board of Trade 31 Mar 1864 > > Henry had 2 sons who also went to sea, Robert Henry 1828-1891 & Edward > William 1841-1887 > > I know Robert Henry LAWS was master of the following sailing vessels > 1852 - 53 "Catherine Green" London - West Indies > 1853 - 61 "St Michael" 39958 West Indies & Africa > 1861 - 64 "Devonshire" 24844 West Indies > 1864 - 68 "Nautilus" 24507 France, Portugal, Spain & West Indies > 1873 - 74 "Woolhampton" London - Mauritius > 1874 - 81 "Woolhampton" London - St Kitts > > Employer > 1864 - 67 Blythe & Greene > 1874 - 75 Blythe & Co > 1876 - 77 Blythe Greene & Co > 1878 - 80 J Swindell > 1881 - 82 N C Sendall > > Edward William C30893 London 1868 was master in the following years > 1869-1873; 1874-1879; 1880-1884; vol.51 although in 1874 as master of the > steamship "Amulato" on 5 Feb 1874 he was found guilty of being drunk in > charge and had his ticket suspended for a year and he went as 1st Mate to > his brother. > > Where else should I look to confirm just who was in charge of these vessels? > > > Was it uncommon for master's wives to travel with their husbands as Robert > Henry's first born was born in Ireland according to the 1881 census. There > in no other explanation that I can think of. In the 1881 census neither > Mother or father was with the children who were in the family home in care > of his mother. > > > > > > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com > http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com > > Registered with The Guild of One-Name Studies > wwww.one-name.org > > > > Email:- registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk > > > This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the > individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the > Laws Family Register.org.uk. If you are not the intended recipient, please > be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the > sender. > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lloyds List on microfilms can be viewed at The Guildhall Library, City of London. These newspapers report ships movements and cargoes. The Times also has shipping news. Knowing the ship’s Official Number is essential for some types of merchant seaman research. These are recorded in Lloyds Registers which are also held at The Guildhall. Merchant seamen often sail with their wives and children -some children being born at sea or abroad during these voyages. The Captains’ & Mates Registers are now at the London Metropolitan Archives. Some Crew Lists are at the National Archives, some at Greenwich Caird Library, some at ports in the UK and some are at The Maritime History Archive, Memorial University, Newfoundland. 'My Ancestor was a Merchant Seaman' by Christopher T & Michel J watts is very useful. Lauretta Harris 3434

I second Penelope's comments. It was an excellent seminar and I also particularly enjoyed Christopher Hilton's inspiring talks. A Wellcome Library ticket is a particularly valuable asset for genealogists because it gives you free access to a large number of databases, many of which can be accessed from home with your library card. http://wellcomelibrary.org/using-the-library/how-to/databases-a-z/ Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 CRUWYS/CRUSE/CRUISE one-name study http://cruwys.blogspot.com http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys http://www.familytreedna.com/public/CruwysDNA

Just to thank Richard Heaton and the SemSub committee for setting up an excellent Seminar today. I was in two minds as to whether to attend, but it was excellent. Christopher Hilton, their senior Archivist was refreshingly enthusiastic and keen to attract users. We were introduced to many potential name-rich sources, even if we thought we did not have medical ancestors. Also several speakers discussed how the records could provide social context if not names. The number of attendees getting their Wellcome library tickets (free) IRL or planning to do this online (as, like me, they did not have proof of address), attests to the potental usefulness of the Wellcome library and archives. But you can do it online: http://wellcomelibrary.org/using-the-library/joining-the-library/ NB a bonus was that the newly opened restaurant upstairs turned out to be only charging half price (until 13th Feb), so I had a fab lunch for £3.75. Just a shame all of us did not know that! Penelope Burton GOONS 4896 QUESTED

Hi One-Namers Everywhere The Government have made wills available online. The Index is FREE but the wills themselves are £10 which you can order online but may take up to 4 weeks to arrive. The site is at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk though I found it via a Google search of Gov.UK/Probate-Wills https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate Regards John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com

Hi One-Namers Everywhere Around the year 1976 I extracted the following from Lloyds Registers and started looking at ships logs at the PRO in Chancery Lane, now starting over and reviewing my research. I took these to be the voyages of my g g grandfather Henry LAWS 1800-1880 some years H LAWS appeared in the records other years just LAWS appeared. 1833 - 38 Master of Barque "Blanche" Shepherd & Co London - St.Kitts 1838 - 39 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Nevis Owner Pochley 1839 - 40 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene - West Indies 1842 - 43 Master of Brig "William Fulcher" London - Pochley - West Indies 1843 - 50 Master of Barque "Benjamin Greene" Blythe & Greene West Indies 1854 - 64 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies 1864 - 65 Master of Barque "Devonshire" 1865 - 74 Master of Barque "Nautilus" Blythe & Greene - London - West Indies 1875 - 80 Master of Barque "Nautilus" W Binney - London - West Indies Masters ticket issued 10 Mar 1850 - 43021- PRO BT122-6 By an order of the Board of Trade, in 1845 voluntary examinations of competency for men intending to become masters or mates of foreign-going British Merchant ships, this was made compulsory in 1850 an exemption was made for men considered to have sufficient experience were eligible without formal examination. C24644 pensioned Certificate received by Board of Trade 31 Mar 1864 Henry had 2 sons who also went to sea, Robert Henry 1828-1891 & Edward William 1841-1887 I know Robert Henry LAWS was master of the following sailing vessels 1852 - 53 "Catherine Green" London - West Indies 1853 - 61 "St Michael" 39958 West Indies & Africa 1861 - 64 "Devonshire" 24844 West Indies 1864 - 68 "Nautilus" 24507 France, Portugal, Spain & West Indies 1873 - 74 "Woolhampton" London - Mauritius 1874 - 81 "Woolhampton" London - St Kitts Employer 1864 - 67 Blythe & Greene 1874 - 75 Blythe & Co 1876 - 77 Blythe Greene & Co 1878 - 80 J Swindell 1881 - 82 N C Sendall Edward William C30893 London 1868 was master in the following years 1869-1873; 1874-1879; 1880-1884; vol.51 although in 1874 as master of the steamship "Amulato" on 5 Feb 1874 he was found guilty of being drunk in charge and had his ticket suspended for a year and he went as 1st Mate to his brother. Where else should I look to confirm just who was in charge of these vessels? Was it uncommon for master's wives to travel with their husbands as Robert Henry's first born was born in Ireland according to the 1881 census. There in no other explanation that I can think of. In the 1881 census neither Mother or father was with the children who were in the family home in care of his mother. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History http://lawsfamilyregister.tribalpages.com http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com Registered with The Guild of One-Name Studies wwww.one-name.org Email:- registrar@lawsfamilyregister.org.uk This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Laws Family Register.org.uk. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender.

John: Masters on merchant vessels were in charge of the ship under the auspices of the owners. This is unlike masters in the Royal Navy who were warrant officers (and eventually commissioned as commanders) and were only in charge of the navigation and stowage. Sometimes they had other duties as assigned. The captain was in charge of the ship in the RN. The master in the merchant service was the de facto captain and was often known by that courtesy title. Family were permitted to travel. It appears that the entire lot of my 3rd great grandfather's family of 8 were living aboard the ship of his last merchant master's position. You may want to check if logs exist. I learned a great deal from the master's log from one of the RN ships on which my ancestor served. -- Jim James M. Owston, EdD Owston One-Name Study #5647 owston@one-name.org http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?find=5647 On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:52 PM, John P Laws via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > > Where else should I look to confirm just who was in charge of these vessels? > > > Was it uncommon for master's wives to travel with their husbands as Robert >

Aye, but the devil is in the details. We’ll all be eagerly following to see what the implementation provides. Scott Shenton (GOONS 5292) Indialantic, Florida, USA Shenton one name study http://shenton.tribalpages.com On Feb 6, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Peter Copsey via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here is the latest message from the Federation, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Society of Genealogists is delighted to announce that the Government has > accepted an amendment to the Deregulation Bill currently going before the > House of Lords that allows for the publication of information from Birth, > Marriage and Death Certificates in England and Wales to be issued otherwise > than in the form of a certified copy. This is something the SoG has long > campaigned for and is grateful to Baroness Scott of Needham Market, herself > an enthusiastic genealogist, who suggested to Government that this > deregulation is possible. > > More information can be found on their website > http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/gro-information-on-births-marriages-and-death-doesnt-have-to-on-expensive-c > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Peter Copsey > Your Fed Rep > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, I have just come across a very emotive website for anyone who may have had connections with US personnel flying in WWII.   www.lestweforgetsculpture.org    The sculptor himself is quite a guy and the gallery photos are extremely moving.   I hope you find the site as interesting as I did. Sue 6000 researching Pascall

Hello everyone, Here is the latest message from the Federation, ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Society of Genealogists is delighted to announce that the Government has accepted an amendment to the Deregulation Bill currently going before the House of Lords that allows for the publication of information from Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates in England and Wales to be issued otherwise than in the form of a certified copy. This is something the SoG has long campaigned for and is grateful to Baroness Scott of Needham Market, herself an enthusiastic genealogist, who suggested to Government that this deregulation is possible. More information can be found on their website http://www.sog.org.uk/news/article/gro-information-on-births-marriages-and-death-doesnt-have-to-on-expensive-c ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Copsey Your Fed Rep

G'day, folks The Bendigo Family History Group will be holding their 25th Family & Local History Expo in Bendigo on Sunday, 15 March, from 10am - 4pm. Details are at http://www.bendigofamilyhistory.org/familyhistoryexpo2015.htm The Guild has been attending this event for a number of years and we enjoy explaining the Guild, and One-Name Studies, to everyone who passes by. One of the most enjoyable parts is looking up the names being researched and putting the researcher in contact with the relevant Guild member - a win for the enquirer, and a win for the Guild member. It's also fun networking with the 60+ other stall holders and it is surprising what we can learn from the other specialists. If you are in the Victorian Goldfields area on 15 March, why not drop in to say "G'day"? You may even like to spend an hour or so on our side of the table and telling people about your ONS. ooRoo David Evans RR for Vic-Tas