> Why not do it on this list so those without DNA projects can observe and learn if they want to? Very good suggestion. I'd like to second that. Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany (5581)

While I'd like to agree that a separate discussion forum would be useful for DNA, in reality I really don't want to have to join another forum - so my vote goes to the status quo - use the existing discussions areas (including facebook and google +) for DNA discussions as well, and also take advantage of things like the conference or google + hangouts to get together with other DNA project admins and talk in more depth. I personally think that having DNA discussions appearing here well before I started my own project was one of the triggers for me taking the plunge. If it had been a completely separate forum I may not have considered a DNA study (or just left it up to someone else to deal with in the future). I'd like to also really thank Susan Meates in particular (I know there are other folk as well supporting DNA studies) for the huge amount of work she does in supporting DNA surname studies. I personally would never have got mine started if it hadn't been for her mentoring, and while this new mygroups feature of familytreeDNA still bamboozles me, I'm just so pleased that Susan is monitoring it,dealing directly with ftDNA, and advising GOONS members. Corinne Curtis #5579 Sennett/Sinnott etc DNA study On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:57 AM, paulc via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Why not do it on this list so those without DNA projects can observe and > learn if they want to? > > Very good suggestion. I'd like to second that. > > Paul Brazell > Berlin, Germany > > (5581) > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Debbie and I have made the correction. Elizabeth Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) On 2015-02-24 9:17 AM, Debbie Kennett wrote: > Elizabeth > > You can update your study details here: > > http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/user-maintenance/studypropsfrontpage.cgi > > Debbie > >> The website for the Blake DNA study is incorrect. How does one go about > changing it? It is correct in my profile. Thank you. > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS > >

> From: David Burgess via > Sent: 24 February 2015 09:22 > > Although I am not involved with any DNA projects, Julie's message > prompts me to suggest that a DNA Forum be set up for interested Guild > members to exchange emails. Why not do it on this list so those without DNA projects can observe and learn if they want to? We have discussions here on Irish or USA genealogy resources which are of interest only to some Guild members, but those of us whose studies don't extend to those countries can still learn in case something comes up. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - A.R.Millard@durham.ac.uk Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

Hi Although I am not involved with any DNA projects, Julie's message prompts me to suggest that a DNA Forum be set up for interested Guild members to exchange emails. There are several providers and I have found Yahoo Groups to be simple to operate and effective vehicle for a public or private Group. It can be tailored to suit requirements. Taking things a step further, is there any reason why the DNA Section shouldn't be run like a Regional Group? Regards David Burgess On 24/2/15 08:29, Julie Goucher via wrote: > Susan & Debbie, > > Thank you both so much for the emails involving the details of the > current status of FTDNA & to providing the various links to other > information sources. > > As someone who knows relatively little about DNA (and is > administrator for two projects) I wonder if there is a Guild listing > or spreadsheet of those in the Guild undertaking DNA studies? I would > have thought such a list would be available, especially with the hard > work Susan has undertaken on behalf of the Guild, but I can not see > any such list in the members room. > > The reason for this is really as a way we can learn from each other, & > not just because of this current situation & development. We have a > variety of DNA studies, all in various stages of growth & it would be > useful to understand why some studies are very active, whilst others > are not. As the theme for the 2015 conference is about Collaboration, > you can not get much more collaborative that a successful DNA study. > > Whilst the issue about FTDNA is current & important, I feel members > need to understand the opportunities for their DNA projects & any > potential ramifications. We have a huge wealth of knowledge from our > members & experts; Debbie, Maurice & Susan. If we take that wealth of > knowledge as a foundation & the experience of members who run > projects, we can all benefit & hopefully grow successful DNA studies > if we wish to as a sub set of our individual ONS's. > > Regards, > Julie Goucher > Guild 3925 > Orlando & Worship ONS > > Sent from my iPad  > >> On 24 Feb 2015, at 01:21, S.C. Meates via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Debbie, >> >> I wish you had written to me for clarification so we don't risk confusing members. >> >> I stand by my post. >> >> Regarding your issues >> >> 1. You stated: "My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. " >> >> Response: >> I have in writing from Family Tree DNA dated January 20th, that Guild members and any projects I am involved in can opt out of the member display and the activity feed. These were my primary concerns, due to the impact on their projects and recruiting, as documented in my post. The rest of the new Personal Page format is harmless. >> >> This occurred before myGroups was released to the customer base and you had an opportunity to see it. >> >> My job is to protect Guild members' interests, and to provide them with options so that they can have the most successful DNA Project possible. >> >> I do **not** doubt the commitment I have from Family Tree DNA. They have always kept their word in everything I have negotiated for 15 years. Getting it in writing is extra insurance, though not necessary. >> >> Technically, if we want to get into programming details, the user interface will change for all Personal Pages. Those that opt-out will NOT have the member display or the activity feed. Therefore, Family Tree DNA wouldn't be maintaining two different websites. Those that opt-out will still get the option of putting up a picture/banner, which is harmless. >> >> >> 2. I think I made it very clear in my post that there are evolving issues. As mentioned in my post, due to customer input when the myGroups was released to the customer base as a whole, the problems I identified **may** get solved over time. This is an evolving issue. I checked my beta project before I sent the post to the Forum, and either nothing was there or worked about these potential evolving features. >> >> It is also important regarding the default setting for participant disclosure, and I have not seen anything about this issue. If it is not the default that a participant will not be displayed, each a Guild member who opts-in their project will need to advise each new participant on this option. >> >> Participant display makes recruiting much more difficult. >> >> ---- >> In summary, Guild members have a choice to opt-in or opt-out of member display and the activity feed. These are the 2 areas of myGroups that I covered in my post. They can decide what ever works best for them, their project, and their recruiting goals. >> >> Once the situation has settled down, and it is a known how it will all work, I will advise the list I have of those who have opted-out about the final functionality and issues. >> >> Susan >> >> >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- David Burgess

The website for the Blake DNA study is incorrect. How does one go about changing it? It is correct in my profile. Thank you. Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp BA PLCGS Website: http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/elizabethmain.htm Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/ Guild of One Name Studies #4600 (Blake, Pincombe) The Surname Society #1004 (Bedard, Dumoulin, Gregoire, Prevost, Blake, Pincombe, Knight, Rawlings, Cheatle, Butt, Buller, Taylor, Gray, Farmer, Lywood, Rew, Routledge, Welch, Coleman, Lambden, Arnold, Peck, Rowcliffe, Siderfin, Cobb, Beard) On 2015-02-24 7:41 AM, Debbie Kennett via wrote: > There is a list of Guild DNA Project websites here but it is very out of > date: > > http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/members/dna-database.cgi > > This list was autogenerated when a member filled out the DNA section on the > old profile pages but I presume with the transition to the new website the > list is no longer being updated. However, the list was never a very good > measure of the number of DNA projects because not every Guild member has a > profile page (though I've never understood why all Guild members aren't > taking advantage of this facility!). Also, even if a member had a profile > page they didn't always fill in the DNA section. > > There are supposedly around 500 Guild members with DNA projects and it would > be very useful to have a list of all the surnames that are represented. > > I don't wish to burden Nigel and Anne with any extra work but I would have > thought in the long run it should be possible to autogenerate a list from > the Guild Register. There is a code (D) that members can use to specify that > they have an associated DNA Project, and I presume it would be possible to > produce a list of all Guild members with study code D against their names. > It would also be very useful if a list could be generated for all the other > study codes as well. This is probably something that could be considered > when the migration to the new website has been completed. > > I did suggest a while back that it would be useful to have a > tagging/labelling system for categorisation of different aspects of our > one-name studies. See my post on the suggestion board: > > http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/members/suggestionboard.cgi?action=ShowSugge > stion&sg_Id=171 > > I use a labelling system all the time on my blog and I wondered if this is > something that could perhaps be implemented for our profiles. Anyone with a > DNA project could, for example, add a DNA tag to their profile and you could > then click on the tag and see all the other members with DNA projects. > > Best wishes > > Debbie > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Susan & Debbie, Thank you both so much for the emails involving the details of the current status of FTDNA & to providing the various links to other information sources. As someone who knows relatively little about DNA (and is administrator for two projects) I wonder if there is a Guild listing or spreadsheet of those in the Guild undertaking DNA studies? I would have thought such a list would be available, especially with the hard work Susan has undertaken on behalf of the Guild, but I can not see any such list in the members room. The reason for this is really as a way we can learn from each other, & not just because of this current situation & development. We have a variety of DNA studies, all in various stages of growth & it would be useful to understand why some studies are very active, whilst others are not. As the theme for the 2015 conference is about Collaboration, you can not get much more collaborative that a successful DNA study. Whilst the issue about FTDNA is current & important, I feel members need to understand the opportunities for their DNA projects & any potential ramifications. We have a huge wealth of knowledge from our members & experts; Debbie, Maurice & Susan. If we take that wealth of knowledge as a foundation & the experience of members who run projects, we can all benefit & hopefully grow successful DNA studies if we wish to as a sub set of our individual ONS's. Regards, Julie Goucher Guild 3925 Orlando & Worship ONS Sent from my iPad  > On 24 Feb 2015, at 01:21, S.C. Meates via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Debbie, > > I wish you had written to me for clarification so we don't risk confusing members. > > I stand by my post. > > Regarding your issues > > 1. You stated: "My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. " > > Response: > I have in writing from Family Tree DNA dated January 20th, that Guild members and any projects I am involved in can opt out of the member display and the activity feed. These were my primary concerns, due to the impact on their projects and recruiting, as documented in my post. The rest of the new Personal Page format is harmless. > > This occurred before myGroups was released to the customer base and you had an opportunity to see it. > > My job is to protect Guild members' interests, and to provide them with options so that they can have the most successful DNA Project possible. > > I do **not** doubt the commitment I have from Family Tree DNA. They have always kept their word in everything I have negotiated for 15 years. Getting it in writing is extra insurance, though not necessary. > > Technically, if we want to get into programming details, the user interface will change for all Personal Pages. Those that opt-out will NOT have the member display or the activity feed. Therefore, Family Tree DNA wouldn't be maintaining two different websites. Those that opt-out will still get the option of putting up a picture/banner, which is harmless. > > > 2. I think I made it very clear in my post that there are evolving issues. As mentioned in my post, due to customer input when the myGroups was released to the customer base as a whole, the problems I identified **may** get solved over time. This is an evolving issue. I checked my beta project before I sent the post to the Forum, and either nothing was there or worked about these potential evolving features. > > It is also important regarding the default setting for participant disclosure, and I have not seen anything about this issue. If it is not the default that a participant will not be displayed, each a Guild member who opts-in their project will need to advise each new participant on this option. > > Participant display makes recruiting much more difficult. > > ---- > In summary, Guild members have a choice to opt-in or opt-out of member display and the activity feed. These are the 2 areas of myGroups that I covered in my post. They can decide what ever works best for them, their project, and their recruiting goals. > > Once the situation has settled down, and it is a known how it will all work, I will advise the list I have of those who have opted-out about the final functionality and issues. > > Susan > > > > >

Thanks for the update Debbie. Fiona — 5538 - Duignan etc. > On 23 Feb 2015, at 21:10, Debbie Kennett via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Susan > > Family Tree DNA pushed out an update on Friday which has fixed most of these > issues. > > The activity feed can now be switched on and off. The administrator can > choose not to display the member list in his or project. These settings can > be found under Project administration/Project profile. I've checked both > settings and can confirm that they both work. > > There still appears to be a problem whereby if you have the activity feed > switched on the members' names are revealed in the posts advising that a new > member has joined the group, even if you have opted for a restricted > members' list. FTDNA have been alerted to the problem and hopefully that > will be fixed shortly. > > At the moment there is no option for a participant to join a group and not > to reveal his or her name if the project has got the activity feed switched > on and the member list is displayed, and I think this probably still needs > to be addressed. There should be a setting for the individual to choose > whether or not to display his or her name on a project by project basis. > > There is a document on Google Drive where project admins are collaborating > and posting suggestions fixes for MyGroups so if anyone has any other ideas > or if you wish to support any of the suggestions do go ahead and edit the > document. You can find the file here: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q80JrNLcSbhTtz-WMBuWfN7yYXbHxvsk5U2c1CA1 > GZQ/edit# > > If the link breaks you can use this short URL: > > http://tinyurl.com/MyGroupsFixes > > There are also ongoing discussions in the following groups: > > https://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx > > 1) Family Tree DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/748625258556621/ > > 2) Y-DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/43927947190/ > > 3) ISOGG Project Administrators' Yahoo mailing list: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ISOGG/info > > My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an > option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different > websites in the long term. > > I think the new MyGroups is a big improvement on the old system, and once > the final bug fixes have been sorted I'm sure everyone will be happy. > > Best wishes > > Debbie > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan Family Tree DNA pushed out an update on Friday which has fixed most of these issues. The activity feed can now be switched on and off. The administrator can choose not to display the member list in his or project. These settings can be found under Project administration/Project profile. I've checked both settings and can confirm that they both work. There still appears to be a problem whereby if you have the activity feed switched on the members' names are revealed in the posts advising that a new member has joined the group, even if you have opted for a restricted members' list. FTDNA have been alerted to the problem and hopefully that will be fixed shortly. At the moment there is no option for a participant to join a group and not to reveal his or her name if the project has got the activity feed switched on and the member list is displayed, and I think this probably still needs to be addressed. There should be a setting for the individual to choose whether or not to display his or her name on a project by project basis. There is a document on Google Drive where project admins are collaborating and posting suggestions fixes for MyGroups so if anyone has any other ideas or if you wish to support any of the suggestions do go ahead and edit the document. You can find the file here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q80JrNLcSbhTtz-WMBuWfN7yYXbHxvsk5U2c1CA1 GZQ/edit# If the link breaks you can use this short URL: http://tinyurl.com/MyGroupsFixes There are also ongoing discussions in the following groups: https://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx 1) Family Tree DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/748625258556621/ 2) Y-DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/43927947190/ 3) ISOGG Project Administrators' Yahoo mailing list: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ISOGG/info My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. I think the new MyGroups is a big improvement on the old system, and once the final bug fixes have been sorted I'm sure everyone will be happy. Best wishes Debbie

John Commins <j.c.commins@gmail.com> asked: > is there a list of what parish,s and churches have been done, so then > perhaps others can fill in more blanks I can supply a list of CPs in the 22nd edition of the GMI for any given Registration District for anyone wanting to do more, or who can make good use of them in a Marriage Challenge. As for blanks, I have a Perl script that checks for gaps and errors and can supply the output from that as well. Peter Alefounder.

Debbie, I wish you had written to me for clarification so we don't risk confusing members. I stand by my post. Regarding your issues 1. You stated: "My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. " Response: I have in writing from Family Tree DNA dated January 20th, that Guild members and any projects I am involved in can opt out of the member display and the activity feed. These were my primary concerns, due to the impact on their projects and recruiting, as documented in my post. The rest of the new Personal Page format is harmless. This occurred before myGroups was released to the customer base and you had an opportunity to see it. My job is to protect Guild members' interests, and to provide them with options so that they can have the most successful DNA Project possible. I do **not** doubt the commitment I have from Family Tree DNA. They have always kept their word in everything I have negotiated for 15 years. Getting it in writing is extra insurance, though not necessary. Technically, if we want to get into programming details, the user interface will change for all Personal Pages. Those that opt-out will NOT have the member display or the activity feed. Therefore, Family Tree DNA wouldn't be maintaining two different websites. Those that opt-out will still get the option of putting up a picture/banner, which is harmless. 2. I think I made it very clear in my post that there are evolving issues. As mentioned in my post, due to customer input when the myGroups was released to the customer base as a whole, the problems I identified **may** get solved over time. This is an evolving issue. I checked my beta project before I sent the post to the Forum, and either nothing was there or worked about these potential evolving features. It is also important regarding the default setting for participant disclosure, and I have not seen anything about this issue. If it is not the default that a participant will not be displayed, each a Guild member who opts-in their project will need to advise each new participant on this option. Participant display makes recruiting much more difficult. ---- In summary, Guild members have a choice to opt-in or opt-out of member display and the activity feed. These are the 2 areas of myGroups that I covered in my post. They can decide what ever works best for them, their project, and their recruiting goals. Once the situation has settled down, and it is a known how it will all work, I will advise the list I have of those who have opted-out about the final functionality and issues. Susan -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 2/23/15, Debbie Kennett <debbiekennett@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: RE: [G] News for those with a DNA Project To: "'S.C. Meates'" <scm@bellsouth.net>, goons@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2015, 4:10 PM Susan Family Tree DNA pushed out an update on Friday which has fixed most of these issues. The activity feed can now be switched on and off. The administrator can choose not to display the member list in his or project. These settings can be found under Project administration/Project profile. I've checked both settings and can confirm that they both work. There still appears to be a problem whereby if you have the activity feed switched on the members' names are revealed in the posts advising that a new member has joined the group, even if you have opted for a restricted members' list. FTDNA have been alerted to the problem and hopefully that will be fixed shortly. At the moment there is no option for a participant to join a group and not to reveal his or her name if the project has got the activity feed switched on and the member list is displayed, and I think this probably still needs to be addressed. There should be a setting for the individual to choose whether or not to display his or her name on a project by project basis. There is a document on Google Drive where project admins are collaborating and posting suggestions fixes for MyGroups so if anyone has any other ideas or if you wish to support any of the suggestions do go ahead and edit the document. You can find the file here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q80JrNLcSbhTtz-WMBuWfN7yYXbHxvsk5U2c1CA1 GZQ/edit# If the link breaks you can use this short URL: http://tinyurl.com/MyGroupsFixes There are also ongoing discussions in the following groups: https://www.familytreedna.com/privacy-policy.aspx 1) Family Tree DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/748625258556621/ 2) Y-DNA Project Administrators' Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/43927947190/ 3) ISOGG Project Administrators' Yahoo mailing list: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ISOGG/info My understanding is that opting out of MyGroups is not going to be an option. FTDNA have already advised that they cannot maintain two different websites in the long term. I think the new MyGroups is a big improvement on the old system, and once the final bug fixes have been sorted I'm sure everyone will be happy. Best wishes Debbie

Hi Susan, I was a bit concerned as well with the new MyGroups set up, but mainly from the perspective of a hapless, already-over-worked volunteer project administrator. :^) I nevertheless went ahead and converted my larger (Bunch) DNA project over to the MyGroups format, to dip my toe in the water. I've actually been surprisingly happy with it -- it's a nice look. There has been no activity yet on the activity feed except for the daily coupon postings (having to monitor the feed was my biggest concern from the "over worked" perspective). The project profile setup does allow administrators to restrict access to the activity feed or even to disable it entirely if desired, and allows three different options for displaying the project's member list: Make the list public, show the list only to project members, and show the list to no one (the option I have in effect). There is also considerable control allowed as to what information about which project members shows up in the test r! esult displays. I would encourage you to take a look. Converting to MyGroups format is reversible from now until April (when it appears that all projects that use an FTDNA project website will be converted to MyGroups format), so if you don't like it you can switch right back. -Mark Bunch GOONS #6223 ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 23:00:14 -0800 > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G] News for those with a DNA Project > From: goons@rootsweb.com > > Those of you with a DNA Project have probably now received notice from Family Tree DNA about the new myGroups feature. > > I participated in the beta prior to the customer release, and I had a great deal of concern about the impact of some features of this design change for Y-DNA Projects. As a result, I have negotiated an option where any Guild member can opt out of two elements of myGroups, which I feel would negatively impact recruiting, and the growth of your project. > > myGroups is now available for the customer base to try, and feedback is resulting in changes. As a result, some or all of the issues I raised in the closed beta test may be addressed. Even so, I want to share with you my perspective and your options. > > My concerns about myGroups are the following: > > 1. Impact on recruiting > > I recruit persons with the following approach, which is very effective, especially for those participants concerned about privacy: I tell them: “Only those that match will see your name, and email, if you have it, and you will see your matches name and email, if they have it.” > > With myGroups where this is no longer true. For example, in the beta I dealt with, every project member is able to see the name and last login of every project member. Plus, anyone who joins your project at any time can see all participants’ name and their last login. > > When a participant is in the new myGroups Personal Page, in the upper left is the project name and a count of members. Simply click on the count of members and you see everyone’s name and last login. > > Besides recruiting, this also impacts the commitment I have already made to participants. I have therefore opt-ed out all projects where I have a major role. > > It appears that since the release of myGroups to the customer base, and then those having the same concerns verbalizing the issue, this issue might be addressed, but I have not yet seen the user interface functioning. One solution I read about would enable the participant to set whether their name displayed to the group. I have not yet seen it function. If you select myGroups, you would need to educate your participant about this setting. > > Family Tree DNA, per my discussion, recommended that the solution is for those members who don’t want everyone to see their name, is that they can leave the project. This is self-defeating for a Y-DNA project, where you want everyone with the surname to be in the project. > > 2. Activity Feed > > MyGroups is a social media front end, to encourage all the participants to post comments, questions, photos, etc. The project administrator would most likely want to monitor this, perhaps daily, depending on the activity, and answer the questions, or review answers that others have posted. > > Most surnames are multiple origin. I can see the value of this activity feed project structure especially for autosomal testing, and most likely for mtDNA Projects, geographic Projects, and haplogroup project, though I question the value for multiple origin Y-DNA projects. Will your participants care about the trees and genealogy of those to whom they aren't related? > > Personally, I am too busy with a project I am helping with recruiting participants to monitor postings and questions. We are on track meeting our goal of recruiting 5 participants a week, and the goal will soon increase. > > I have recently read, that as a result of customer input, the Project Administrator could turn off the activity feed. I have not seen this feature function yet. > *** > > It is totally your choice whether you opt in or out. I simply negotiated the option for those that want to opt out. If you opt out, the member list remains private, and there is no activity feed or ability of members to post. > > To entice people to myGroups, Family Tree DNA is offering coupons on a daily basis. The 37 marker Y-DNA price offered by the Guild is better than a $20 Y-DNA coupon. The $100 coupon is for the much more expensive "Big Y" ($575.00 USD) which most members are not involved with. The coupons could have value to those who want to upgrade before a sale. > > myGroups is currently optional to all projects, but all projects will be converted to this format on April 16th. If you want to opt-out, I need to be notified by March 15th at DNA@one-name.org > > You can try myGroups if you want, and then opt out. The opt-out option is currently **only** available to Guild members. > > Please notify me by March 15th at DNA@one-name.org if you want to opt out. > > Keep in mind that anything could change during this customer beta period, and my two major concerns above could be solved for the whole customer base. > > Susan > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Those of you with a DNA Project have probably now received notice from Family Tree DNA about the new myGroups feature. I participated in the beta prior to the customer release, and I had a great deal of concern about the impact of some features of this design change for Y-DNA Projects. As a result, I have negotiated an option where any Guild member can opt out of two elements of myGroups, which I feel would negatively impact recruiting, and the growth of your project. myGroups is now available for the customer base to try, and feedback is resulting in changes. As a result, some or all of the issues I raised in the closed beta test may be addressed. Even so, I want to share with you my perspective and your options. My concerns about myGroups are the following: 1. Impact on recruiting I recruit persons with the following approach, which is very effective, especially for those participants concerned about privacy: I tell them: “Only those that match will see your name, and email, if you have it, and you will see your matches name and email, if they have it.” With myGroups where this is no longer true. For example, in the beta I dealt with, every project member is able to see the name and last login of every project member. Plus, anyone who joins your project at any time can see all participants’ name and their last login. When a participant is in the new myGroups Personal Page, in the upper left is the project name and a count of members. Simply click on the count of members and you see everyone’s name and last login. Besides recruiting, this also impacts the commitment I have already made to participants. I have therefore opt-ed out all projects where I have a major role. It appears that since the release of myGroups to the customer base, and then those having the same concerns verbalizing the issue, this issue might be addressed, but I have not yet seen the user interface functioning. One solution I read about would enable the participant to set whether their name displayed to the group. I have not yet seen it function. If you select myGroups, you would need to educate your participant about this setting. Family Tree DNA, per my discussion, recommended that the solution is for those members who don’t want everyone to see their name, is that they can leave the project. This is self-defeating for a Y-DNA project, where you want everyone with the surname to be in the project. 2. Activity Feed MyGroups is a social media front end, to encourage all the participants to post comments, questions, photos, etc. The project administrator would most likely want to monitor this, perhaps daily, depending on the activity, and answer the questions, or review answers that others have posted. Most surnames are multiple origin. I can see the value of this activity feed project structure especially for autosomal testing, and most likely for mtDNA Projects, geographic Projects, and haplogroup project, though I question the value for multiple origin Y-DNA projects. Will your participants care about the trees and genealogy of those to whom they aren't related? Personally, I am too busy with a project I am helping with recruiting participants to monitor postings and questions. We are on track meeting our goal of recruiting 5 participants a week, and the goal will soon increase. I have recently read, that as a result of customer input, the Project Administrator could turn off the activity feed. I have not seen this feature function yet. *** It is totally your choice whether you opt in or out. I simply negotiated the option for those that want to opt out. If you opt out, the member list remains private, and there is no activity feed or ability of members to post. To entice people to myGroups, Family Tree DNA is offering coupons on a daily basis. The 37 marker Y-DNA price offered by the Guild is better than a $20 Y-DNA coupon. The $100 coupon is for the much more expensive "Big Y" ($575.00 USD) which most members are not involved with. The coupons could have value to those who want to upgrade before a sale. myGroups is currently optional to all projects, but all projects will be converted to this format on April 16th. If you want to opt-out, I need to be notified by March 15th at DNA@one-name.org You can try myGroups if you want, and then opt out. The opt-out option is currently **only** available to Guild members. Please notify me by March 15th at DNA@one-name.org if you want to opt out. Keep in mind that anything could change during this customer beta period, and my two major concerns above could be solved for the whole customer base. Susan

Just a reminder that the closing date for this marriage challenge is 1st March. Ian S Vicary Worldwide Vicary Vickery One-Name Study including  Vickary, Viccary and Vicarey www.one-name.org/profiles/vicary.html http://vicaryone-namestudy.blogspot.com DNA study http:/www.familytreedna.com/public/vicary

Just a reminder that the closing date for this marriage challenge is 1st March. Ian S Vicary Worldwide Vicary Vickery One-Name Study including Vickary, Viccary and Vicarey www.one-name.org/profiles/vicary.html http://vicaryone-namestudy.blogspot.com DNA study http:/www.familytreedna.com/public/vicary

is there a list of what parish,s and churches have been done, so then perhaps others can fill in more blanks John

Hi Debbie, I think that it is a great idea and would like to join you. My LASHBROOK DNA Study is small but showing dividends already. Look forward to meeting every one there. Best wishes Sonia ---------------------------------------- > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:15:31 +0000 > Subject: [G] DNA meeting at the Guild Conference 2015 > From: goons@rootsweb.com > > Following a suggestion from Barbara Griffiths we have arranged to hold a > special DNA meeting at the Guild conference in March on the afternoon of > Friday 27th March between 4pm and 6pm. You will have to buy your own drinks > but the bars are very conveniently located near to the meeting room! The > idea is to have a fairly informal meeting to allow all of us who are running > DNA projects to get to network with each other and share ideas. If you would > like to come along to the meeting could you please let me know. If you have > any ideas for particular subjects that you'd like to discuss perhaps you > could share them with me. It may be that we could break out into smaller > discussion groups covering, for example, autosomal DNA testing or > mitochondrial DNA testing if there is sufficient interest. > > Best wishes > > Debbie Kennett > Member no. 4554 > Cruwys/Cruse/Cruise one-name study > http://cruwys.blogspot.com > http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/CruwysDNA > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Put me down for meeting up as well. I have the Sennett/Sinnott (and variants) Y-DNA study - 6 members so far, so very small. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Debbie Kennett via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Following a suggestion from Barbara Griffiths we have arranged to hold a > special DNA meeting at the Guild conference in March on the afternoon of > Friday 27th March between 4pm and 6pm. You will have to buy your own drinks > but the bars are very conveniently located near to the meeting room! The > idea is to have a fairly informal meeting to allow all of us who are running > DNA projects to get to network with each other and share ideas. If you would > like to come along to the meeting could you please let me know. If you have > any ideas for particular subjects that you'd like to discuss perhaps you > could share them with me. It may be that we could break out into smaller > discussion groups covering, for example, autosomal DNA testing or > mitochondrial DNA testing if there is sufficient interest. > > Barbara has given me permission to share extracts from her e-mail to me with > her ideas for the meeting: > > "The idea of a meeting came out of the various discussions that had been > going on, on lists such as ISOGG, about promoting DNA, and mentoring people > in the UK regarding it, especially with WDYTYA moving to Birmingham this > year. I'd also done a stand for ISOGG alongside the Guild's stand at the > Worcester Fair - and realised I didn't really know who in the Guild was > involved, so had been in touch with Susan Meates, to get a list of Guild DNA > projects I could advertise. > > So my thoughts for the meeting was for it to be fairly informal, with > everyone introducing themselves, and what testing they have done etc, and a > more general discussion about the sorts of things that are issues for them. > I didn't see it as a time for trying to answer specific questions > necessarily, as I thought that might overlap too much with Maurice's talks. > I was seeing it more as an opportunity for building closer links between > like minded one-namers. It would also help in gathering information about > where people are at, in order to then build on that in the future (eg > identifying people who can mentor about DNA, or who are happy to do more to > promote DNA at Fairs, or areas where more education/information is needed, > etc.)... > > I'd... like to focus on building a good network of "DNA involved" people in > the Guild if possible. I was trying to get away from the responsibility > always landing on the two or three of you to be answering everything. We > will see more and more links between us all, as testing in the UK takes off > - my mother's highest match at FTDNA turned out to be the mother of another > Guild member. And I have spotted two or three other Guild members amongst > the matches my Dad's siblings have." > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > If you haven't yet booked for the conference you can do so here: > > http://www.one-name.org/conf2015_Brigg.html > > Best wishes > > Debbie Kennett > Member no. 4554 > Cruwys/Cruse/Cruise one-name study > http://cruwys.blogspot.com > http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/CruwysDNA > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't always assume a "Jack" is really a John. In my family I have one Jack whose registered name is Joseph, and another known to family and friends as Jack, but who was born Patrick. That last one definitely caused some difficulties in finding census records! Corinne Curtis #5579 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Richard Hooke via <goons@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi John > Since Jack is given as dying aged 24 in Feb 1941 there is an 80% probability > that he was born earlier up to Feb 1916. > I would like to nominate Jack Laws (mother a Laws) registered in June 1916 > (same age as his wife) at Bury St Edmunds which is just down the road from > Ipswich. > Regards Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: goons-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:goons-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of John P Laws via > Sent: 20 February 2015 18:35 > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G] OK you Sleuths > > Hi One-Namers Everywhere > > OK you Sleuths - here is another of my bods who doesn't want the facts to > come out. > > Percy 'Jack' LAWS born 1917 was killed it is believed at the Parnell > Aircraft (Gun Turret Works) Yate GLS in an Air Raid 27 Feb 1941 and what was > left of him was buried a Sodbury GLS. On 23 Apr 1941 his estate such as it > £156 10s was went to Joan Gwendoline LAWS of 92 St Johns Road Ipswich SFK > whose maiden name may have been BLIGHT born 1916, I found her remarrying in > 1945 to Henry G HAMBLING she died 1996 in Ipswich. > > I can't find a birth or marriage for either a Percy LAWS or Jack LAWS that > fits - Any Ideas > > > John P Laws > > Registrar > Laws Family Register > Putting Flesh on the Bones of History > > wwww.lawsfamilyregisterr.tribalpages.com > > www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

excellent idea ... See you there! Sue Mastel ADAMTHWAITE and APPLEBY DNA projects (First project uses both yDNA and atDNA, second is more a traditional yDNA project with just a few atDNA testers who want to confirm their line but have no male to test; we have also started a geographical group for the parish in Westmorland where all the Adamthwaite lines originated, which welcomes descendants from all family lines who lived there more than 200 years ago - this also includes yDNA and atDNA)