Dear Paul If this is a genuine military query, bring it along to WDYTYA. William Spencer from the TNA will be up at Birmingham. As you probably know, he is their military history expert. He may know other sources to try. Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Howes via Sent: 25 March 2016 01:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Military help, please Post script to enquiry earlier this week. The will I ordered arrived just after I left Florida two days ago and I've only had time to look at it tonight. Intriguing. If he died OSB and if it means "without issue", then someone didn't tell the paymaster about his will. It's very clear and reads: "In the event of my Death I leave the whole of my property and effects to Dorothy May Flowers, Lenwade, nr Norwich, Norfolk." He signed the will but honestly, I cannot read the initial/first name, or rank? It has either been corrected or someone has written on it. The surname looks like it might be Hawes but it's Howes elsewhere in the document. And it appears to be followed by the letter, G both at the top and bottom of the document. So, even after getting the will, I still cannot figure out who George was! If anyone is interested in this problem, I will post the original of the will in the WebForum with a restatement of the issues. I said "intriguing" particularly, because there was a Dorothy May Flowers in Lenwade (also known as Great Witchingham) in the 1911 census. She's living with a grandmother, age 2, born in Fakenham. Her birth registration appears to have been under the surname of Crick, in Q2 1908, which would fit a birth of 1.61908 and not 1.6.1918 as stated in the Register of Soldiers' effects. There's no Flowers/Crick marriage and no death of a female Flowers or Crick of child-bearing age in Norfolk in the period from 1908 to 1917. If I look at the grandmother, I can see her (albeit with a wide tolerance on her year of birth) through several censuses and eight of her nine children. Looks like one of the girls was Dorothy's mother. I can also now see that Dorothy lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1987 but did not marry and her date of birth was . . . .(drum roll, for what it's worth) . . . 1 Jun 1908! I feel like I've just gone back a generation and doubled the number of uncertainties without going back a generation! Maybe I'll save some pennies and buy the Death Cert for George unless anyone has a better idea. Thanks again for all the ideas so far Paul www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul A couple of thoughts - if Dorothy was the daughter of one of the girls then don't forget they could have married twice I notice from the 1939Register that Dorothy was a Staff Nurse a Mundsley Sanatorium so no help there with family but it does lead possibly to other places. You could try tracking down the records of the staff at the Sanatorium or try one of the nursing training establishments. Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, www.halstedresearch.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Howes via Sent: 25 March 2016 01:31 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Military help, please Post script to enquiry earlier this week. The will I ordered arrived just after I left Florida two days ago and I've only had time to look at it tonight. Intriguing. If he died OSB and if it means "without issue", then someone didn't tell the paymaster about his will. It's very clear and reads: "In the event of my Death I leave the whole of my property and effects to Dorothy May Flowers, Lenwade, nr Norwich, Norfolk." He signed the will but honestly, I cannot read the initial/first name, or rank? It has either been corrected or someone has written on it. The surname looks like it might be Hawes but it's Howes elsewhere in the document. And it appears to be followed by the letter, G both at the top and bottom of the document. So, even after getting the will, I still cannot figure out who George was! If anyone is interested in this problem, I will post the original of the will in the WebForum with a restatement of the issues. I said "intriguing" particularly, because there was a Dorothy May Flowers in Lenwade (also known as Great Witchingham) in the 1911 census. She's living with a grandmother, age 2, born in Fakenham. Her birth registration appears to have been under the surname of Crick, in Q2 1908, which would fit a birth of 1.61908 and not 1.6.1918 as stated in the Register of Soldiers' effects. There's no Flowers/Crick marriage and no death of a female Flowers or Crick of child-bearing age in Norfolk in the period from 1908 to 1917. If I look at the grandmother, I can see her (albeit with a wide tolerance on her year of birth) through several censuses and eight of her nine children. Looks like one of the girls was Dorothy's mother. I can also now see that Dorothy lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1987 but did not marry and her date of birth was . . . .(drum roll, for what it's worth) . . . 1 Jun 1908! I feel like I've just gone back a generation and doubled the number of uncertainties without going back a generation! Maybe I'll save some pennies and buy the Death Cert for George unless anyone has a better idea. Thanks again for all the ideas so far Paul www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Post script to enquiry earlier this week. The will I ordered arrived just after I left Florida two days ago and I've only had time to look at it tonight. Intriguing. If he died OSB and if it means "without issue", then someone didn't tell the paymaster about his will. It's very clear and reads: "In the event of my Death I leave the whole of my property and effects to Dorothy May Flowers, Lenwade, nr Norwich, Norfolk." He signed the will but honestly, I cannot read the initial/first name, or rank? It has either been corrected or someone has written on it. The surname looks like it might be Hawes but it's Howes elsewhere in the document. And it appears to be followed by the letter, G both at the top and bottom of the document. So, even after getting the will, I still cannot figure out who George was! If anyone is interested in this problem, I will post the original of the will in the WebForum with a restatement of the issues. I said "intriguing" particularly, because there was a Dorothy May Flowers in Lenwade (also known as Great Witchingham) in the 1911 census. She's living with a grandmother, age 2, born in Fakenham. Her birth registration appears to have been under the surname of Crick, in Q2 1908, which would fit a birth of 1.61908 and not 1.6.1918 as stated in the Register of Soldiers' effects. There's no Flowers/Crick marriage and no death of a female Flowers or Crick of child-bearing age in Norfolk in the period from 1908 to 1917. If I look at the grandmother, I can see her (albeit with a wide tolerance on her year of birth) through several censuses and eight of her nine children. Looks like one of the girls was Dorothy's mother. I can also now see that Dorothy lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1987 but did not marry and her date of birth was . . . .(drum roll, for what it's worth) . . . 1 Jun 1908! I feel like I've just gone back a generation and doubled the number of uncertainties without going back a generation! Maybe I'll save some pennies and buy the Death Cert for George unless anyone has a better idea. Thanks again for all the ideas so far Paul www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

It is not long now until the Guild conference. We have a DNA discussion planned for Friday 1st April: http://one-name.org/the-37th-guild-conference-agm-2016/ This session will be hosted, as it was last year, by me, Maurice Gleeson and Barbara Griffiths. It will once again be an informal discussion where Guild members can share their experiences and we can all learn from each other. In order to plan for the session we would like to solicit questions in advance. If you have any questions about your DNA project or any aspect of DNA testing that you would like to be discussed please can drop me a line by Wednesday 30th March. You might like to consider the following questions: 1. What support do you need for your DNA project? What would make your life easier? 2. What improvements would you like to see in the DNA results from Family Tree DNA? There are already some ideas listed in the ISOGG wish list: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/FTDNA_wish_list 3. Do you have any best practice tips that you would like to share with your fellow Guild members? Depending on the topics of interest we might consider breaking out into small groups to discuss specific issues. Birmingham is the centre of the DNA world in April because Who Do You Think You Are? Live takes place the weekend after the Guild conference. The DNA workshop, sponsored by Family Tree DNA, is now a firm fixture at Who Do You Think You Are? Live. We have a mixture of speakers from the worlds of academia and genetic genealogy. There are lots of Guild members who will be presenting in the DNA workshop: Maurice Gleeson, Linda Kerr, Emily Aulicino and James Irvine. Maurice will also be chairing all the DNA sessions. You can see the full timetable here: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/workshop-timetable-dna Three of the DNA talks (Dr Turi King on "Discovering Richard III, Richard Hill on "Finding family: a genetic detective story" and Bennett Greenspan on "Genetic genealogy: the past, the present and the future") will take place in SOG Theatre 2. These three talks can be booked in advance. The talks in the DNA workshop are on a first come first served basis. Best wishes Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 Cruwys/Cruse/Cruise one-name study http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk

Hi I think I am asking for someone to have a look at my reasoning and research in case I am make wrong assumptions. Any other ideas always welcome of course. It focuses around Alice Amelia Baker age 24 who married Frederick Pullum in 1912 in Bethnal Green. They were not found on 1939 register and I have forgotten how and why searched in another direction. I found a marriage of Alice A Pullum in 1928 to Charles James Hawkins in Shoreditch (doesn’t fit any other of my Alice Pullums) 1939 Register found at 34 Bishop’s Hay, Bethnal Green: Alice A Hawkins dob 28 Apr 1888 (?corrected to 1889) with Charles J Hawkins dob 12 Sept 1899 corrected to 1897 (Cabinet maker) and Edward H Hawkins dob 21 Jun 1914 Edward would be before Alice & Charles’s marriage so I thought he may be Alice’s step son. I found the birth of Edward H Hawkins and his mother’s maiden name was Walker Then found a marriage of Charles James Hawkins (age 23) 12th Nov 1901 at St Ann’s Hoxton / Shoreditch to Mary Ann Rebecca Walker. He is a cabinet maker. I looked at the 1911 Census and found Charles and Mary with 4 children James, Lilian, Albert & Lydia (I had a stupid moment forgetting Edward H not born yet). However they also seem to be together on the 1901 census before they were really married so a bit of a query that they are the right ones. The reason I went into this latter search was because I had found Alice Amelia Hawkins (now showing Alice Amelia not just Alice A) on the electoral register at 43 Bishops Road, Bethnal Green in 1928 with Charles James Hawkins BUT also with Mary Ann Walker and a year later there with Florence Walker as well, same for 1931 and then Joined by Lydia Mary in 1932 to 1933. In 1934 Mary Ann has left but they are joined by Charles Samuel in 1934. (same in 1935). 1936 – 1939 the household is Alice, Charles and Edward H. What I would like to be sure of is that Alice Amelia Baker who married Frederick Pullum, remarried in 1928. This makes a difference to my ONS as she would no longer be a Pullum for the 1939 register and I may have more clues to which Frederick Pullum died when. Thank you Nikki Brown #6552 Pullum ONS https://pullumons.wordpress.com

Dear Jeremy, Thank you SO much for finding that for me - it is very moving to see such an epitaph. It is strange that it says ''The parents'' as her father had died in 1831 and her uncle John described her as ''Ellen Cath, the only daughter of my late brother Thomas Cath'' in his will dated February 1835. I think it may well be John who paid for the gravestone - he was widowed and childless, so maybe he was Ellen's godparent or guardian. It indicates that she was born about January 1826, though I have not found a record of this anywhere else - yet! Just shows there is an answer to everything (nearly) if one knows where to look! Best wishes, Jenny Jenny Bussey (UK) Guild of One-Name Studies member 3625 One-Name Study for CATH worldwide On 23 March 2016 at 20:24, Jeremy Wilkes <[email protected]> wrote: > Success! Those who carried out the survey in 1989 managed to copy most of > the inscription. The weathering must have worsened considerably since then. > > I do not think that cleaning would help. It is just possible that filling > the indentations with dark material would. > > Anyway, St Mary the Virgin Dover Churchyard Memorial Inscriptions by > Kathleen Hollingsbee and Martyn C. Webster (Kent Family History Society > 1991), page 35 saith: > > Sacred to the memory of Ellen Cath who departed this life after a very > severe illness of four weeks which she endured with the utmost meekness and > resignation on the 7th day of September 1835 aged nine years and seven > months She was a child of very great promise in all respects but for some > wise purpose her earthly career was thus suddenly and early terminated sic > transit gloria mundi The parents of the dear departed have placed this mute > stone over her grave to record the great love they experienced for her when > living . . . deep grief they . . . for their loss

I’m also doing it and made the comment last week that a search facility within the comments would be helpful within the discussion comments. It’s my first MOOC course but I’m also doing the Irish Lives in War and Revolution. Lynda Collier ONS: Scoular and Scouller > On 23 Mar 2016, at 1:30 pm, SBS Engineers Research via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am putting #GOONS at the start of my posts so it's easy to see. > > Ann Spiro > [email protected] > Guild member#5101 > WAGS member#1288 > ONS: Baskett and Briggs > DNA Project: Baskett. > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

(Re-sending in plain text!) I acquired a gmail address and intended to use that to transfer old emails to Thunderbird but was unsuccessful when setting up a gmail account on the old laptop. What I didn't mention when asking for help at the beginning of this week was that I possess a disc for MS Outlook 2007. (It was only used briefly but served its purpose at the time with another transfer from one laptop to another.) So I installed that on the old laptop, imported my old emails and exported them again to a backup which I transferred to my external hard drive. But setting up Outlook on the new laptop with an IMAP connection to my new gmail address failed too. Today a computer engineer has visited and experienced all the same difficulties. Eventually he clicked on 'less secure apps' ('Not recommended') which I had not been brave enough to try and everything is now hunky-dory. So I'm back in business and will stick with MS Outlook for the time being and gradually increase the use of my gmail address. I think I could have moved to Thunderbird via gmail if the 'less secure apps' had been ticked at the beginning. Thank you to everybody who gave me advice. Celia (Dodd) [email protected]

I am putting #GOONS at the start of my posts so it's easy to see. Ann Spiro [email protected] Guild member#5101 WAGS member#1288 ONS: Baskett and Briggs DNA Project: Baskett.

Hi One-Namers Everywhere Found on 1939 Register in Richmond SRY at 17 The Hermitage Agnes J Laws 18 Jun 1865 Female Amanuensis Single (a 74 year old secretary/copyist) Not an description/occupation I'd come across before. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk

I still have my ration book from 1954 Sent from my iPad > On 23 Mar 2016, at 06:50, John Hanson via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Are there any TMG users who have created tags in TMG to cater for the newly > released 1939Register. > > For those that are interested this register was the foundation of the > identity cards that were used during WW2, for the creation of ration books > used up till 1952 and also for the start of the NHS system in 1948 > > Regards > John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, www.halstedresearch.org.uk > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are there any TMG users who have created tags in TMG to cater for the newly released 1939Register. For those that are interested this register was the foundation of the identity cards that were used during WW2, for the creation of ration books used up till 1952 and also for the start of the NHS system in 1948 Regards John Hanson, researcher, the Halsted Trust, www.halstedresearch.org.uk

Hi John, an amanuensis is someone who writes at another person's dictation. We use the term for examination scribes , where the person taking the exam is not able to write as they may have a broken arm or be very dyslexic. Best wishes, Janet [2281 In a message dated 23/03/2016 09:14:03 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi One-Namers Everywhere Found on 1939 Register in Richmond SRY at 17 The Hermitage Agnes J Laws 18 Jun 1865 Female Amanuensis Single (a 74 year old secretary/copyist) Not an description/occupation I'd come across before. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Merryl Ancestry has a Samuel BAWTREE marrying a Lydia ELVIN 29 Aug 1826 in Cheltenham, St Mary, Gloucestershire. On the image, Samuel is a widower and Lydia a spinster. They were married by Licence and both signed. HTH, Ken On 22 March 2016 at 23:04, Merryl Wells via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've been looking for the marriage of a Lydia to a Samuel Bawtree with no > success so thought I'd try FreeReg. FreeReg now say they have a new website > but I navigated to that and eventually get a message that if I haven't seen > a Cookie Declaration then I'm using the wrong Web Browser - which one should > I be using? > > In The Gentleman's Magazine published 11 Jan. 1845 is an announcement of the > death of Lydia as the relict of Samuel Bawtree of Whitehall, Colchester aged > 52 which equates to Lydia Bawtree on the GRO Death Index as March quarter > 1845 Chelsea R.D. so born c. 1793 and could have married 1810 onwards. In > 1841 census she is 45 in Colchester and living with her is Mary Bawtree aged > 25. I have a few Samuel Bawtrees but none with a wife Lydia so perhaps she > was a second wife - any help appreciated. > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: [email protected] > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding FreeReg - Shouldn't matter which browser you are using. Cookies should automatically work, unless you have some kind of Blocker or possibly if you don't go from the home page. try from http://www.freereg.org.uk/ and see what happens, Regarding Samuel Bawtree and Lydia. Ancestry has a marriage between Samuel Bawtree (Widower) and Lydia Elvin 1826 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. Both are given as OTP, Samuel is a Widower and Lydia a Spinster. Married by Licence. Tim Treeby On 22/03/2016 23:04, Merryl Wells via wrote: > Hi, > > I've been looking for the marriage of a Lydia to a Samuel Bawtree with no > success so thought I'd try FreeReg. FreeReg now say they have a new website > but I navigated to that and eventually get a message that if I haven't seen > a Cookie Declaration then I'm using the wrong Web Browser - which one should > I be using? > > In The Gentleman's Magazine published 11 Jan. 1845 is an announcement of the > death of Lydia as the relict of Samuel Bawtree of Whitehall, Colchester aged > 52 which equates to Lydia Bawtree on the GRO Death Index as March quarter > 1845 Chelsea R.D. so born c. 1793 and could have married 1810 onwards. In > 1841 census she is 45 in Colchester and living with her is Mary Bawtree aged > 25. I have a few Samuel Bawtrees but none with a wife Lydia so perhaps she > was a second wife - any help appreciated. > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: [email protected] > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. > >

Hi, I've been looking for the marriage of a Lydia to a Samuel Bawtree with no success so thought I'd try FreeReg. FreeReg now say they have a new website but I navigated to that and eventually get a message that if I haven't seen a Cookie Declaration then I'm using the wrong Web Browser - which one should I be using? In The Gentleman's Magazine published 11 Jan. 1845 is an announcement of the death of Lydia as the relict of Samuel Bawtree of Whitehall, Colchester aged 52 which equates to Lydia Bawtree on the GRO Death Index as March quarter 1845 Chelsea R.D. so born c. 1793 and could have married 1810 onwards. In 1841 census she is 45 in Colchester and living with her is Mary Bawtree aged 25. I have a few Samuel Bawtrees but none with a wife Lydia so perhaps she was a second wife - any help appreciated. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst.

Hi One-Namers everywhere Apologies for this morning's mail - I must be blind! Or not awake. Perhaps I should go back to bed - Thanks to Maria for pointing it out so patiently. Let this be a warning to us all - if it seems odd it maybe odd or maybe one needs another strong black coffee - Before putting pen to paper, first put the brain in gear. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John P Laws via Sent: 22 March, 2016 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Beware of Indexes and the new 1939 Index Hi One-Namers Everywhere The first family I checked this morning in the 1939 Register is odd, there was Jonathan LAWS, a LNER Railway platelayer, and Margaret his wife and Ada a daughter also a 2 yr old child Ronald LAWS living in Newcastle upon Tyne, so I looked up Ronalds birth on Ancestry and found a death registration for him dated Oct 1937 with the birth date of 8 Jul 1937 which fits with 1939 register if he were living, and age of 50 perhaps that was 50 days. So how come a child born and died in 1937 is listed as 50 unless perhaps he lived for 50 days and how did he appear in the 1939 register 2 years later? Makes you very wary. John P Laws Registrar Laws Family Register Putting Flesh on the Bones of History www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.co.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Sheila, Thank you for your kind offer to look at the gravestone itself. Billion graves doesn't give any info on its position but from the photo, I would say that it is propped up against a wall or the church itself, rather than in the ground. As I say, it is a mystery as to why she was in Dover at all, though my mother's eldest sister is likewise buried far from home at St Leonards on Sea where she had been taken to recover from meningitis but died there, so maybe Ellen's was a similar story. Because it is a large stone with a lot on it, it is not a pauper's grave! The CATHs were reasonably well off, so there would have been support for her widowed mother. By the way, Billiongraves have stopped one being able to contact the photographer and/or transcriber of gravestones, so I cannot get any help from that direction. Usual problem with some people being nasty! Very many thanks, Jenny Jenny Bussey (UK) Guild of One-Name Studies member 3625 One-Name Study for CATH worldwide On 21 March 2016 at 15:54, Sheila Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > Jenny, I live 5 miles from Dover so if no one is able to help you I will pop to the cemetery and have a look after the school holidays. I see she was buried at St Mary's, does billion graves gve a plot number? > Sheila > Constantine One Name study > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jenny Bussey via <[email protected]> > To: Forum <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:31 AM > Subject: [G] Gravestone at St Mary the Virgin, Dover > > > Dear friends, > > I have found this photo of the gravestone for 9 year old Ellen CATH, > but am having great difficulty in deciphering it. She was the > daughter of Thomas CATH (d. 1831) and Jane RUSSELL. She was born about > 1826 (though I have not found a record for this) and died in Dover on > 7th > September 1835, buried on 11th September. If anyone can help with > reading what is actually on the gravestone, I should be most grateful. > > https://billiongraves.com/grave/ELLEN-CATH/9969400 > > The address given in the church record is Military Road, Dover, but > basically they were a London family. Could this have been an > orphanage? Her mother did not re-marry until after she died. > > Many thanks. > > Jenny Bussey (UK) > Guild of One-Name Studies member 3625 > One-Name Study for CATH worldwide > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John I would try other newspapers for a fuller report. Most of the ones I have seem to have verbatim reports of the witness statements. What was the result of the inquest? Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hill via" <[email protected]> To: "Paul Prescott" <[email protected]> Cc: "GOONS List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [G] Coroner's Inquest, Birmingham 1909 Hi Paul, Thanks, but I already did that… What I was after was the original testimony of the witnesses, and the account in the press only summarises the proceedings. John. > On 21 Mar 2016, at 17:15, Paul Prescott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi John: > > Your chances are finding the records are very slim indeed. But you > should be able to find a good description of the case in newspaper > records. FMP has the Birmingham Mail and others. > > Paul > > > > > On 21 March 2016 at 16:45, John Hill via <[email protected]> wrote: >> I would like to find, if it exists, the record of the coroner's inquest >> on the death of Ellen Ford Hill, who died on 15 Dec 1909 in Four Oaks, >> Birmingham. >> >> When I enquired some years ago, I was informed that "Unfortunately the >> record of the inquest has not survived; the earliest records held for the >> Warwickshire Northern District start in 1911"; but it is just possible >> that the earlier records found their way into an archive somewhere. >> >> Any suggestions as to where/how I might find it? >> >> John. >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Way to go! All the certificates I have for English happenings are updated there too, just wish more folk would do that, to help narrow down our options. Anne From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Howes Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 7:05 AM To: Anne Brady Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Militrary help, please Thanks - using postems on FreeBMD is a great way to advertize one's ONS too. We have over 16,000 Howes marriages marked already! P On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Anne Brady <[email protected]> wrote: Of course, if you do find which Dorothy is yours, you could add a postem to her on Freebmd giving the middle name and the father, to help someone else …