Thanks for suggestions to Julie, Brian & Ken. I have now had a good look at the publications suggested and I can see we have some of them here in New Zealand so I will be going to our NZSG library to do some research. Surrey is a new area for me. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Julie Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 10:35 p.m. To: 'Christine'; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS Hi Christine, Whilst I don't have the particular family you mention within my trees, I do have Humphreys/Humphrys from Nottinghamshire. If these are of interest just let me know. Julie Johnson England On Tuesday, 29 March 2016, 0:39, Brian Swann via <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Christine The parish registers for Southwark and most Surrey parishes are now online at Ancestry, as well as those for London and Middlesex. FamilySearch is now pretty good too, if you key in requests for any sources relating to these parishes individually it will tell you what is accessible and their coverage. I would also check the resources of the publications of the West Surrey FHS. Their marriage index, which you can only buy from them, will be better and more comprehensive than Ancestry. http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/publications.php http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/cds.php Trust this helps Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine via Sent: 28 March 2016 21:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS This is my first post. Maybe someone has this family in their files? I have contacted some individuals with HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS & WELSMAN in their research. I am searching for more information on the ancestry of my 2nd Great Grandmother Sarah HUMPHREYS She became 1st Mrs Henry Crosby & 2nd Mrs John Welsman In her presumed birth records from St Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England in 1806 her parents are named as Lewis HUMPHREYS and Sarah. There is another earlier Baptism for a Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS in 1798 with Lewis & Sarah as parents. The father Lewis was recorded as a Taylor/ Tailor by occupation (on both chn's St Olave baptisms) as was Sarah's 2nd husband. Earlier there are 2 children born to a Lewis HUMPHREYS & Lydia in the same parish but this Lewis occupation was Cooper so I am presuming he was not the same man. What I am trying to find is a marriage for Lewis HUMPHREYS to Sarah where the wife's Surname is listed. I have tried Wills with no luck as yet. I have tried to find Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS as well and have no idea what happened to him. I realize I may need to call in some Parish Register films for St Olave & other Surrey parishes but have scrolled through the film strip on Ancestry & tried to check census records. By 1841 Sarah was Mrs John Welsman & in the household were 3 children who were born CROSBY & my Great Grandmother Aphrah WELSMAN was one of 4, younger WELSMAN children. The name HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS appears in Surrey registers over many years but could be a Welsh name. Thank you Any ideas would be very helpful Christine Madsen #6969 New Zealand _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It tells me that all the technology companies scream about is rubbish most of the time. I'm just a grumpy old fool. On 29 March 2016 at 15:10, S TANNER via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On a cold wet Easter Monday in Wales, I'm always pleased to get a new GOOGLE ALERT for one of my surnames of interest in my inbox - especially if it refers to a part of the world that I hadn't found people previously. > > For example, I wasn't aware of any HEMPSALLs or HEMPSHALLs in Tennessee. Could this one be a hitherto undiscovered , long lost colony of Hempshall hill-billies, spending their days listening to country music with their Dolly-Parton-lookalike wives? > > But my hopes were dashed when the detail was revealed: > > WCYB "Tennessee lawmaker says growing hemp will get easier " > > The ever-helpful GOOGLE had clearly "intelligently" thought that "will" was equivalent to "SHALL" - so this was an example of HEMPSHALL > > Sadly, the southern Appalachia remains a HEMPSHALL-free zone. > > Steve Tanner > > HEMPS(h)ALL ONS > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- One-name Study of KAIN and variants. GOONS member 5992

On a cold wet Easter Monday in Wales, I'm always pleased to get a new GOOGLE ALERT for one of my surnames of interest in my inbox - especially if it refers to a part of the world that I hadn't found people previously. For example, I wasn't aware of any HEMPSALLs or HEMPSHALLs in Tennessee. Could this one be a hitherto undiscovered , long lost colony of Hempshall hill-billies, spending their days listening to country music with their Dolly-Parton-lookalike wives? But my hopes were dashed when the detail was revealed: WCYB "Tennessee lawmaker says growing hemp will get easier " The ever-helpful GOOGLE had clearly "intelligently" thought that "will" was equivalent to "SHALL" - so this was an example of HEMPSHALL Sadly, the southern Appalachia remains a HEMPSHALL-free zone. Steve Tanner HEMPS(h)ALL ONS

I do have several Humphreys in my Pullum study. The vast majority of my English Pullums are related and lived in Shoreditch. One of the Pullums that I cannot connect married Emma Humphries (originally spelt Humphreys in the marriage record but then corrected. This however is later than the ones you are searching for (1915). The earliest Humphreys I have in the area is Stephen Humphreys born 1873. If your research suggests that I can help further please feel free to contact me Nikki Brown #6552 Pullum ONS https://pullumons.wordpress.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine via" <[email protected]> To: "Julie Johnson" <[email protected]>, "Christine" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 29 March, 2016 11:08:08 AM Subject: Re: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS Thanks for suggestions to Julie, Brian & Ken. I have now had a good look at the publications suggested and I can see we have some of them here in New Zealand so I will be going to our NZSG library to do some research. Surrey is a new area for me. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Julie Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 10:35 p.m. To: 'Christine'; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS Hi Christine, Whilst I don't have the particular family you mention within my trees, I do have Humphreys/Humphrys from Nottinghamshire. If these are of interest just let me know. Julie Johnson England On Tuesday, 29 March 2016, 0:39, Brian Swann via <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Christine The parish registers for Southwark and most Surrey parishes are now online at Ancestry, as well as those for London and Middlesex. FamilySearch is now pretty good too, if you key in requests for any sources relating to these parishes individually it will tell you what is accessible and their coverage. I would also check the resources of the publications of the West Surrey FHS. Their marriage index, which you can only buy from them, will be better and more comprehensive than Ancestry. http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/publications.php http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/cds.php Trust this helps Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine via Sent: 28 March 2016 21:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS This is my first post. Maybe someone has this family in their files? I have contacted some individuals with HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS & WELSMAN in their research. I am searching for more information on the ancestry of my 2nd Great Grandmother Sarah HUMPHREYS She became 1st Mrs Henry Crosby & 2nd Mrs John Welsman In her presumed birth records from St Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England in 1806 her parents are named as Lewis HUMPHREYS and Sarah. There is another earlier Baptism for a Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS in 1798 with Lewis & Sarah as parents. The father Lewis was recorded as a Taylor/ Tailor by occupation (on both chn's St Olave baptisms) as was Sarah's 2nd husband. Earlier there are 2 children born to a Lewis HUMPHREYS & Lydia in the same parish but this Lewis occupation was Cooper so I am presuming he was not the same man. What I am trying to find is a marriage for Lewis HUMPHREYS to Sarah where the wife's Surname is listed. I have tried Wills with no luck as yet. I have tried to find Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS as well and have no idea what happened to him. I realize I may need to call in some Parish Register films for St Olave & other Surrey parishes but have scrolled through the film strip on Ancestry & tried to check census records. By 1841 Sarah was Mrs John Welsman & in the household were 3 children who were born CROSBY & my Great Grandmother Aphrah WELSMAN was one of 4, younger WELSMAN children. The name HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS appears in Surrey registers over many years but could be a Welsh name. Thank you Any ideas would be very helpful Christine Madsen #6969 New Zealand _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --

Hilary Many thanks for your question. I've added it to the list. As the subject came up elsewhere I just thought I'd mention here as well as a lot of Guild members don't seem to realise that they can start a DNA project with zero participants. You don't have to wait until you've identified someone who is willing to test in order to start a project. If you think you might want to start a DNA project it's recommended that you get a project set up now so that you can bag your surname. Susan Meates, the Guild's DNA Advisor, will do all the set up for you. What a lot of Guild members are finding is that by the time they think they are ready to start a DNA project their surname is already "taken". Often their surname gets mixed up as a variant in a project for a more common surname. Susan Meates, the Guild's DNA Advisor, can help members to extract their surnames from these projects, but it's always much easier if everyone can lay claim to their surnames of interest at the outset. You can have a passive DNA project where you just have your name listed and don't do any active recruitment. The Guild Wiki is in the process of being migrated to the new website. All the DNA material is now in the new Guild Wiki so members might want to have a look at some of this material: http://one-name.org/wiki/guild-wiki/dna/ You will also find Susan's contact details on this page. You will need to be logged into your account on the new Guild website to access the new Wiki. Hopefully we can develop this material further now that it's all on an easier-to-use platform. There is also information on the discounted DNA kits that are available from the Guild on the main website: http://one-name.org/essential-information-about-dna-testing/ http://one-name.org/dna-kits-available-from-the-guild/ Best wishes Debbie Kennett

Debbie Can we have some help with understanding if we should respond to the message " myGroups is Live! Convert now to take your project to the next level" What does it mean and should we do it? Alan Toplis 4185

Debbie This will be my first conference and although I have not done anything with DNA tests yet I am keen to hear what others have done. My question would be where is the best place to start. My surname study is for one of my husband's maternal lines. Should I try to get a direct line male surname holder to test? Hilary Gadsby Member no 6907 Rosling one-name study https://theroslingblog.wordpress.com/ On 24 March 2016 at 21:05, Debbie Kennett via <[email protected]> wrote: > It is not long now until the Guild conference. We have a DNA discussion > planned for Friday 1st April: > > http://one-name.org/the-37th-guild-conference-agm-2016/ > > This session will be hosted, as it was last year, by me, Maurice Gleeson > and > Barbara Griffiths. It will once again be an informal discussion where Guild > members can share their experiences and we can all learn from each other. > > In order to plan for the session we would like to solicit questions in > advance. If you have any questions about your DNA project or any aspect of > DNA testing that you would like to be discussed please can drop me a line > by > Wednesday 30th March. > > You might like to consider the following questions: > > 1. What support do you need for your DNA project? What would make your life > easier? > > 2. What improvements would you like to see in the DNA results from Family > Tree DNA? There are already some ideas listed in the ISOGG wish list: > > http://www.isogg.org/wiki/FTDNA_wish_list > > 3. Do you have any best practice tips that you would like to share with > your > fellow Guild members? > > Depending on the topics of interest we might consider breaking out into > small groups to discuss specific issues. > > Birmingham is the centre of the DNA world in April because Who Do You Think > You Are? Live takes place the weekend after the Guild conference. The DNA > workshop, sponsored by Family Tree DNA, is now a firm fixture at Who Do You > Think You Are? Live. We have a mixture of speakers from the worlds of > academia and genetic genealogy. There are lots of Guild members who will be > presenting in the DNA workshop: Maurice Gleeson, Linda Kerr, Emily Aulicino > and James Irvine. Maurice will also be chairing all the DNA sessions. > > You can see the full timetable here: > > http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/workshop-timetable-dna > > Three of the DNA talks (Dr Turi King on "Discovering Richard III, Richard > Hill on "Finding family: a genetic detective story" and Bennett Greenspan > on > "Genetic genealogy: the past, the present and the future") will take place > in SOG Theatre 2. These three talks can be booked in advance. The talks in > the DNA workshop are on a first come first served basis. > > Best wishes > > Debbie Kennett > Member no. 4554 > Cruwys/Cruse/Cruise one-name study > http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys > http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

For any members not subscribed to the Genealogy Guys podcast, you might like to listen to Guild member Drew Smith and his partner George Morgan publicize our Members' Websites Project. Listen to the first 5 minutes here: http://genealogyguys.com/the-genealogy-guys-podcast-304-2016-march-27 Great praise for our Members' Websites Project team and the work they are doing. Paul -- Paul Howes Chairman, Guild of One-Name Studies www.one-name.org www.howesfamilies.com Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide

This is my first post. Maybe someone has this family in their files? I have contacted some individuals with HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS & WELSMAN in their research. I am searching for more information on the ancestry of my 2nd Great Grandmother Sarah HUMPHREYS She became 1st Mrs Henry Crosby & 2nd Mrs John Welsman In her presumed birth records from St Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England in 1806 her parents are named as Lewis HUMPHREYS and Sarah. There is another earlier Baptism for a Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS in 1798 with Lewis & Sarah as parents. The father Lewis was recorded as a Taylor/ Tailor by occupation (on both chn's St Olave baptisms) as was Sarah's 2nd husband. Earlier there are 2 children born to a Lewis HUMPHREYS & Lydia in the same parish but this Lewis occupation was Cooper so I am presuming he was not the same man. What I am trying to find is a marriage for Lewis HUMPHREYS to Sarah where the wife's Surname is listed. I have tried Wills with no luck as yet. I have tried to find Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS as well and have no idea what happened to him. I realize I may need to call in some Parish Register films for St Olave & other Surrey parishes but have scrolled through the film strip on Ancestry & tried to check census records. By 1841 Sarah was Mrs John Welsman & in the household were 3 children who were born CROSBY & my Great Grandmother Aphrah WELSMAN was one of 4, younger WELSMAN children. The name HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS appears in Surrey registers over many years but could be a Welsh name. Thank you Any ideas would be very helpful Christine Madsen #6969 New Zealand

Hi Christine, Whilst I don't have the particular family you mention within my trees, I do have Humphreys/Humphrys from Nottinghamshire. If these are of interest just let me know. Julie Johnson England On Tuesday, 29 March 2016, 0:39, Brian Swann via <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Christine The parish registers for Southwark and most Surrey parishes are now online at Ancestry, as well as those for London and Middlesex. FamilySearch is now pretty good too, if you key in requests for any sources relating to these parishes individually it will tell you what is accessible and their coverage. I would also check the resources of the publications of the West Surrey FHS. Their marriage index, which you can only buy from them, will be better and more comprehensive than Ancestry. http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/publications.php http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/cds.php Trust this helps Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine via Sent: 28 March 2016 21:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS This is my first post. Maybe someone has this family in their files? I have contacted some individuals with HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS & WELSMAN in their research. I am searching for more information on the ancestry of my 2nd Great Grandmother Sarah HUMPHREYS She became 1st Mrs Henry Crosby & 2nd Mrs John Welsman In her presumed birth records from St Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England in 1806 her parents are named as Lewis HUMPHREYS and Sarah. There is another earlier Baptism for a Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS in 1798 with Lewis & Sarah as parents. The father Lewis was recorded as a Taylor/ Tailor by occupation (on both chn's St Olave baptisms) as was Sarah's 2nd husband. Earlier there are 2 children born to a Lewis HUMPHREYS & Lydia in the same parish but this Lewis occupation was Cooper so I am presuming he was not the same man. What I am trying to find is a marriage for Lewis HUMPHREYS to Sarah where the wife's Surname is listed. I have tried Wills with no luck as yet. I have tried to find Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS as well and have no idea what happened to him. I realize I may need to call in some Parish Register films for St Olave & other Surrey parishes but have scrolled through the film strip on Ancestry & tried to check census records. By 1841 Sarah was Mrs John Welsman & in the household were 3 children who were born CROSBY & my Great Grandmother Aphrah WELSMAN was one of 4, younger WELSMAN children. The name HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS appears in Surrey registers over many years but could be a Welsh name. Thank you Any ideas would be very helpful Christine Madsen #6969 New Zealand _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Debbie, Hope you are well. My question for the DNA Meeting would be, please: 'How do we as Group Administrators, with only basic knowledge, learn to interpret the results that we are sent by Family Tree DNA?' At the moment, I think that I am beginning to see the benefits of DNA. Having spent since January 2014 constructing Trees with my info (LOVE doing this, it is totally addictive!) and have four separate 'Twiglets'. However, if I am reading it correctly from their copious emails (groan!), there is going to be some joining up of these Twiglets...eventually! I am getting there, hopefully. Looking forward to seeing you at the weekend, Best wishes Sonia ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Debbie Kennett via <[email protected]> Sent: 24 March 2016 21:05 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] DNA discussion at the Guild conference and DNA at WDYTYA Live It is not long now until the Guild conference. We have a DNA discussion planned for Friday 1st April: http://one-name.org/the-37th-guild-conference-agm-2016/ This session will be hosted, as it was last year, by me, Maurice Gleeson and Barbara Griffiths. It will once again be an informal discussion where Guild members can share their experiences and we can all learn from each other. In order to plan for the session we would like to solicit questions in advance. If you have any questions about your DNA project or any aspect of DNA testing that you would like to be discussed please can drop me a line by Wednesday 30th March. You might like to consider the following questions: 1. What support do you need for your DNA project? What would make your life easier? 2. What improvements would you like to see in the DNA results from Family Tree DNA? There are already some ideas listed in the ISOGG wish list: http://www.isogg.org/wiki/FTDNA_wish_list 3. Do you have any best practice tips that you would like to share with your fellow Guild members? Depending on the topics of interest we might consider breaking out into small groups to discuss specific issues. Birmingham is the centre of the DNA world in April because Who Do You Think You Are? Live takes place the weekend after the Guild conference. The DNA workshop, sponsored by Family Tree DNA, is now a firm fixture at Who Do You Think You Are? Live. We have a mixture of speakers from the worlds of academia and genetic genealogy. There are lots of Guild members who will be presenting in the DNA workshop: Maurice Gleeson, Linda Kerr, Emily Aulicino and James Irvine. Maurice will also be chairing all the DNA sessions. You can see the full timetable here: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouarelive.com/workshop-timetable-dna Three of the DNA talks (Dr Turi King on "Discovering Richard III, Richard Hill on "Finding family: a genetic detective story" and Bennett Greenspan on "Genetic genealogy: the past, the present and the future") will take place in SOG Theatre 2. These three talks can be booked in advance. The talks in the DNA workshop are on a first come first served basis. Best wishes Debbie Kennett Member no. 4554 Cruwys/Cruse/Cruise one-name study http://one-name.org/name_profile/cruwys http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Christine The parish registers for Southwark and most Surrey parishes are now online at Ancestry, as well as those for London and Middlesex. FamilySearch is now pretty good too, if you key in requests for any sources relating to these parishes individually it will tell you what is accessible and their coverage. I would also check the resources of the publications of the West Surrey FHS. Their marriage index, which you can only buy from them, will be better and more comprehensive than Ancestry. http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/publications.php http://wsfhs.co.uk/pages/cds.php Trust this helps Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine via Sent: 28 March 2016 21:40 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Help or ideas please HUMPHREYS This is my first post. Maybe someone has this family in their files? I have contacted some individuals with HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS & WELSMAN in their research. I am searching for more information on the ancestry of my 2nd Great Grandmother Sarah HUMPHREYS She became 1st Mrs Henry Crosby & 2nd Mrs John Welsman In her presumed birth records from St Olave, Southwark, Surrey, England in 1806 her parents are named as Lewis HUMPHREYS and Sarah. There is another earlier Baptism for a Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS in 1798 with Lewis & Sarah as parents. The father Lewis was recorded as a Taylor/ Tailor by occupation (on both chn's St Olave baptisms) as was Sarah's 2nd husband. Earlier there are 2 children born to a Lewis HUMPHREYS & Lydia in the same parish but this Lewis occupation was Cooper so I am presuming he was not the same man. What I am trying to find is a marriage for Lewis HUMPHREYS to Sarah where the wife's Surname is listed. I have tried Wills with no luck as yet. I have tried to find Lewis Humphry HUMPHRYS as well and have no idea what happened to him. I realize I may need to call in some Parish Register films for St Olave & other Surrey parishes but have scrolled through the film strip on Ancestry & tried to check census records. By 1841 Sarah was Mrs John Welsman & in the household were 3 children who were born CROSBY & my Great Grandmother Aphrah WELSMAN was one of 4, younger WELSMAN children. The name HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRYS appears in Surrey registers over many years but could be a Welsh name. Thank you Any ideas would be very helpful Christine Madsen #6969 New Zealand _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

12 Yares for me. At the moment I will just be noting the free details. Brian Yare #5831

Oh dear - 277 for GRAY and 14 for GREY. At £3.45 per download - that is £960. I must start doing the "football pools" - or spend a day or two at the TNA at Kew. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W. Paul Featherstone via Sent: 28 March 2016 12:01 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Home Guard Records - County Durham I expected to find a lot of Featherstone's since Co. Durham is a hot bed of the surname, I was not wrong 39 entries, in at least 3 instances the name being used as a Christian or first name. But to uncover that many birth dates in a single search a very useful source. Paul 2627 Featherstone and variants worldwide. On 27/03/2016 15:01, Adrian Abbott via wrote: > Thanks to the Lost Cousins monthly newsletter I found today that the > Home Guard Records for County Durham are searchable on line at the > National Archives: > > http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides > /durham-home-guard-records-1939-1945/ > > Currently these are apparently the only county to be covered. You can > see the name and date of birth on the index; to see the actual record > by download costs 3.45 each. I found 8 possible ONS entries and > downloaded two of particular interest, because they were people I > hadn't found in the 1939 Register. As a result I now have found > another two Households in the 1939 Register which had been either > mistranscribed, or in one case it seems a complete page escaped being > transcribed. > > The download gives you: Name, Date of Birth, Birthplace (but not > always because the pro-forma changed), are you a British subject?, > Nationality of Parents at birth, Name and address of next of kin, > boxes to tick on understanding what you are committed to, service and > discharge dates and there is a space for things like special merit. I > would think it is only worth the download if you are particularly > interested in next of kin, which is what gave me the clues to find > entries in 1939. > > Adrian > > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's a pity this is not indexed by address. I'd like to see if anyone living in my house was recorded. Our house does not appear in the 1939 register, though the ones either side do. Best wishes Andrew -- Andrew Millard - [email protected] Chair, Trustees of Genuki: www.genuki.org.uk Maintainer, Genuki Middx + London: www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/MDX/ + ../LND/ Academic Co-ordinator, Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Bodimeade one-name study: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/Bodimeade/ My genealogy: community.dur.ac.uk/a.r.millard/genealogy/

I expected to find a lot of Featherstone's since Co. Durham is a hot bed of the surname, I was not wrong 39 entries, in at least 3 instances the name being used as a Christian or first name. But to uncover that many birth dates in a single search a very useful source. Paul 2627 Featherstone and variants worldwide. On 27/03/2016 15:01, Adrian Abbott via wrote: > Thanks to the Lost Cousins monthly newsletter I found today that the > Home Guard Records for County Durham are searchable on line at the > National Archives: > > http://nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/durham-home-guard-records-1939-1945/ > > Currently these are apparently the only county to be covered. You can > see the name and date of birth on the index; to see the actual record > by download costs £3.45 each. I found 8 possible ONS entries and > downloaded two of particular interest, because they were people I > hadn't found in the 1939 Register. As a result I now have found > another two Households in the 1939 Register which had been either > mistranscribed, or in one case it seems a complete page escaped being > transcribed. > > The download gives you: Name, Date of Birth, Birthplace (but not > always because the pro-forma changed), are you a British subject?, > Nationality of Parents at birth, Name and address of next of kin, > boxes to tick on understanding what you are committed to, service and > discharge dates and there is a space for things like special merit. I > would think it is only worth the download if you are particularly > interested in next of kin, which is what gave me the clues to find > entries in 1939. > > Adrian > > _____________________________________________

In searching for a Theodora Bawtree (found as Banten!) I've come across a Theodore Henry Bawtree (under the heading of Australia Births & Baptisms 1792-1981) who was born 27 Nov. 1844 and baptized 5 January 1845 at West Maitland, New South Wales to Henry Bawtree and Mary Anne. There was a Henry Bawtree born 1818 Colchester, Essex, England who married 16 July 1850 at Brighton, Victoria, Australia to Adelaide Susan Nunn (on the same day his brother Samuel married her sister Matilda Jane Nunn). Henry and Adelaide had two daughters born in Australia then returned to England where they had two sons and Henry died 1872 in Colchester. I can't find anything further on Theodore Henry Bawtree, but Henry Bawtree could well have been in Australia earlier having been listed as a seaman, also there are references to Bawtrees investing in farmland/estates in Australia which I'd previously thought was brother Samuel, so annoying when reports just say Mr. Bawtree. Can't find this Henry on England 1841 census and he was still in Australia for 1851. I have seen later Australian birth and marriage certificates, mainly for Victoria, Australia which give far more detail on family than those in England so would the same amount of info. be included on an 1844 NSW birth certificate for Theodore Henry Bawtree which would perhaps give the mother's maiden name and when/where they were married, etc.? I've not seen the cert. for Henry marrying Adelaide, if he was then a bachelor. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst.

Hi, Thank you to those who explained how they store their paper Will copies. Obviously a variety of ways, probably depending upon the size and origin of their ONS and it's distribution around the world. I have decided it would be better to file them all together, rather than behind their family within my main file. Once I have extracted them all I'll consider again whether to keep them by name, date or place. The Bawtrees have two main branches, one in Essex and the other London. My main file is getting rather cumbersome that am thinking of extracting those two branches to have a file each, in which case if I divide the Wills under those headings that might be all I need to be able to find a particular Will when required. Looking at the 'Calendar Index' yesterday I did notice on the left hand side one where it gives the name and amount also said Probate in England. I think that Will applies to a Bawtree who had said in a census that he was living off dividends from an Australian Company, so perhaps another part of his will was dealt with in Australia? I also know of a Canadian Will which leaves portions of his estate to people in England and goes on to say he suggests that it is retained as he has arranged rather than converted to money. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst.

Hi ~ just to add to this intriguing thread... The CRICK child was with it's family in the 1911 census so seems to be ruled out. However there is a birth registration 1908/2 of a Dorothy M B FLOWERS @ Faversham(sic) registration district. This is handwritten at the foot of the page & references a late birth registration in 1946(!!)... JQ 1946: Dorothy M B FLOWERS Fakenham R.D. (MMN Woods) Perhaps the following is a red herring but....the following year a Philip FLOWERS married a Mary WOODS/DUFFEY. However I can't see how any of this would help you pinpoint George (?Gordon) HOWES!! As an aside - Dorothy was living with her grandmother Albertina in 1931 per electoral regs. In 1911 census I see there were two children with grandmother Albertina FLOWERS - the other child (Barbara May FLOWERS) was baptised in Heigham, Norwich; a daughter of Lily FLOWERS. But I can't see any trace of a baptism for Dorothy. Barbara May FLOWERS married and had a child (per public family tree) so maybe descendants might know something of the circumstances regarding Dorothy & thus lead to George HOWES. What an unusual problem! best Anne H. 1020 Lyford > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [G] Military help, please > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 21:31:03 -0400 > From: Paul Howes <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Paul Howes <[email protected]>, [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Post script to enquiry earlier this week. The will I ordered arrived > just after I left Florida two days ago and I've only had time to look > at it tonight. Intriguing. > > If he died OSB and if it means "without issue", then someone didn't > tell the paymaster about his will. It's very clear and reads: > "In the event of my Death I leave the whole of my property and effects > to Dorothy May Flowers, Lenwade, nr Norwich, Norfolk." > He signed the will but honestly, I cannot read the initial/first name, > or rank? It has either been corrected or someone has written on it. > The surname looks like it might be Hawes but it's Howes elsewhere in > the document. And it appears to be followed by the letter, G both at > the top and bottom of the document. > > So, even after getting the will, I still cannot figure out who George > was! If anyone is interested in this problem, I will post the > original of the will in the WebForum with a restatement of the issues. > > I said "intriguing" particularly, because there was a Dorothy May > Flowers in Lenwade (also known as Great Witchingham) in the 1911 > census. She's living with a grandmother, age 2, born in Fakenham. > Her birth registration appears to have been under the surname of > Crick, in Q2 1908, which would fit a birth of 1.61908 and not 1.6.1918 > as stated in the Register of Soldiers' effects. There's no > Flowers/Crick marriage and no death of a female Flowers or Crick of > child-bearing age in Norfolk in the period from 1908 to 1917. If I > look at the grandmother, I can see her (albeit with a wide tolerance > on her year of birth) through several censuses and eight of her nine > children. Looks like one of the girls was Dorothy's mother. I can > also now see that Dorothy lived to a ripe old age, dying in 1987 but > did not marry and her date of birth was . . . .(drum roll, for what > it's worth) . . . 1 Jun 1908! > > I feel like I've just gone back a generation and doubled the number of > uncertainties without going back a generation! Maybe I'll save some > pennies and buy the Death Cert for George unless anyone has a better > idea. > Thanks again for all the ideas so far > Paul > > www.howesfamilies.com > Researching House, Howes, Hows, Howse & Howze worldwide > > > > > >

Some of the new Findmypast records have reopened a very puzzling question for me, and I wonder whether anyone is inclined to offer advice. These new records are the Marylebone censuses for 1821 and 1831, from which I discover that a LIPSCOMBE and a CHEW were living next door to each other in 3 and 4 Rock Row respectively, in the vicinity of Lisson Grove, north of Oxford Street, in 1821. This is well enough attested, as a Sophia CHEW born about 1800 was found guilty at the Old Bailey on 12 Jan 1820 of stealing silver, the property of Elizabeth LIPSCOMBE, who says at the trial that she lodges in Rock Row next door to Sophia’s parents. Sophia is probably the Sophia who marries Joseph STANDERWICK at St Leonard Shoreditch, 2 Jun 1823, and dies in the workhouse aged 31 a few years later. But there are curious problems. In 1857 a William James Ross CHEW, “grainer” and painter, marries Mary LIPSCOMB (St Luke Chelsea, 26 Sept 1857). He apparently comes from nowhere, and his father, named in the marriage register as James Ross CHEW, clerk, also seems not to be attested by any other evidence. (He might of course be the father of Sophia above.) WJR and Mary have a son, William James CHEW, b. 7 Aug 1858 at Great Stanmore, d. 1895, whose marriage, family, and later career as a licensed victualler, are well attested. But I don’t find births, baptisms or deaths for either WJR CHEW or his father. “Ross” is a name unknown in any CHEW family in the 19th century, as far as I know; there are no CHEW/ROSS marriages. But Mary LIPSCOMB is married again, almost past childbearing age, to a George TAYLOR, at Holy Trinity, Marylebone, 26 Jan 1865. She claims to be a spinster, and her signature in the register seems reliably the same handwriting as her signature in the 1857 register. He is another licensed victualler, but seems to have died by the 1871 census, when Mary, with her son WJ CHEW, is in charge of the Load of Hay, Watford Heath. A rather peculiar detail, in all this, is the fact that the pawnbroker to whom the stolen silver was offered by Sophia CHEW in 1820 was a James ROSS..... Best wishes Geoff -- Geoff Chew [email protected]