Hi Robert Magazine only just arrived and I have not yet had the time to read it. Like Polly I have been using this as a guide for a very long time, did not feel the need to shout about it as it would appear to be obvious, but sometimes what is staring us in the face is exactly what we miss. I love Cardinal Points, with the aid of the CPs submitted by all those likeminded souls not only can you see the inferred marriage partner but the place that the union took place. I often wonder what is happening to the Parish Locator, I have collected many CPs and I use them regularly to help me find locations. Jennifer Eagle KITCHER 4216 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Fowler via Sent: 03 April 2016 07:06 To: Goons Forum Subject: [G] Members Spot Quiz - IMP on the GMI MM ??? Answers Provided Hi There has been zero discussion on this Forum about the IMP concept, mentioned in the Mar-Jun Journal 2016. So I have knocked together a quick quiz, for those that do not understand Inferred Marriage Partners. 1. What are IMP marriages? 2. What use are IMP marriages? 3. Will they be searchable on the GMI? 4. Where will the information come from? 5. Can we made it easier for Marriage Challengers? Before the answers, link to an even older article on the subject: http://www.one-name.org/members/journal/articles/vol11-9_Fowler.pdf 1. A simple concept for marriages 1852-1911 where four names are listed, if two are paired the remaining two can also be matched. 2. GMI is the source of all information we know about marriages for new members etc. The more information the better. 3. Not yet but soon, I am advised - but all my IMPs are already submitted. 4. From a detailed study of all Fowler marriages on the GMI, 90%+ currently come from MCs & CPs. 5 Yes Give them the information with your MC submission !!! The Hungerford MC closes on the 9th April, to see my suggestion for editing the standard submissions Excel: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RTLPQUKaVn7wU-hpUp03CxNCVZBoVYPmFRjc bIoAxWw/edit#gid=1878539376 As the meerkat says - "SIMPLE". Why the initiative for this needs to come from me ? - No Idea, any support out there, on am I ploughing a lone furrough? Robert Fowler 5464 PS You can ask the Challenger for help with the odd 3 & 5 name records on FreeBMD !! _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I read somewhere (?) that a vast majority of people are descended from Genghis Khan. Seems both he and Charlemagne are responsible for the population of the world and they called Queen Victoria grandmother of Europe. I think she has some way to go to top either! Rose Norton Bierton 6008 -----Original Message----- From: Peter & Barbara via Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 2:05 PM To: Patrick R. L. Dunbar ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Over-egged Cousins I did a calculation some time ago. Assume that all of your ancestors are unique, figure three generations per century, and calculate the number of ancestors you would have in one generation by about the year 1,000. You will find it approximately equals the estimated population of Europe at that time, keeping in mind that the population included multiple generations, not all of whom would have children. I find that I am a descendant of, among others, Isabelle de Vermandois, as well as from both of her husbands and six of their children. General opinion of professional genealogists is that we are all most likely descendants of Charlemagne. Peter Fifield Wells (studying Fifield and variants.) -----Original Message----- From: Patrick R. L. Dunbar via Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 07:33 To: GOONS LIST Subject: [G] Over-egged Cousins I'm struggling to sort out problems such as duplicates and relationships with my ancient line of Dunbars. Not very exciting, but once in a while something raises a smile. For instance - Sir William Rowe Dunbar (1776-1841) married his cousin Jacobina Anne Copeland (1776-1807) Checked with Relationship Calculator, search within 250 generations Husband 2nd cousin 1st cousin 3 removed, then 37 relaionships later 2nd cousin 246 times removed. I think I'll stick with husband and second cousin! Pat Dunbar _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Journal has only just arrived. (not complaining, just a possible reason why there's not been much discussion yet) Michael Tedd 329 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Fowler via Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 7:06 AM To: Goons Forum Subject: [G] Members Spot Quiz - IMP on the GMI MM ??? Answers Provided Hi There has been zero discussion on this Forum about the IMP concept, mentioned in the Mar-Jun Journal 2016. So I have knocked together a quick quiz, for those that do not understand Inferred Marriage Partners. 1. What are IMP marriages? 2. What use are IMP marriages? 3. Will they be searchable on the GMI? 4. Where will the information come from? 5. Can we made it easier for Marriage Challengers? Before the answers, link to an even older article on the subject: http://www.one-name.org/members/journal/articles/vol11-9_Fowler.pdf 1. A simple concept for marriages 1852-1911 where four names are listed, if two are paired the remaining two can also be matched. 2. GMI is the source of all information we know about marriages for new members etc. The more information the better. 3. Not yet but soon, I am advised - but all my IMPs are already submitted. 4. From a detailed study of all Fowler marriages on the GMI, 90%+ currently come from MCs & CPs. 5 Yes Give them the information with your MC submission !!! The Hungerford MC closes on the 9th April, to see my suggestion for editing the standard submissions Excel: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RTLPQUKaVn7wU-hpUp03CxNCVZBoVYPmFRjcbIoAxWw/edit#gid=1878539376 As the meerkat says - "SIMPLE". Why the initiative for this needs to come from me ? - No Idea, any support out there, on am I ploughing a lone furrough? Robert Fowler 5464 PS You can ask the Challenger for help with the odd 3 & 5 name records on FreeBMD !! _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert You are certainly not ploughing a lone furrow as I have been using this process for many years (but haven't yet had time to read the latest edition of JOONS (which only came yesterday morning so have no idea what it says there). It is often easy to identify the "other parties" via the census or online marriage information. When it fails of course is if the two possible wives share the same forename, but even the census may help with sorting them out. But I have a question for you? What is wrong with the same process for the 1837-1852 marriages? True you have eight people to deal with instead of only four, but if there is only one spouse with the correct forename, it is no harder to use! The main reason people do not use it is that they are unaware of the simple matter of querying the FreeBMD results for all the marriages on the same page.....(click on the page number!). Mind you some poeple still seem to be unaware of FreeBMD itself! As to the "3 or 5" results that you mention, many are down to hard/impossible to read page numbers in the GRO index (this was true even of some parts of the actual pages in the on the shelf early hand-writtenvolumes, where much useage had worn the ink off the velum), and so checking all the results for that quarter and Registration District may well supply possibilities or corrections to adjust them to the correct 4. But sometimes 5 (or even more) will reflect a marriage partner who is known by two different surnames for various reasons. Kind regards Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Fowler via" <[email protected]> To: "Goons Forum" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 7:06 AM Subject: [G] Members Spot Quiz - IMP on the GMI MM ??? Answers Provided Hi There has been zero discussion on this Forum about the IMP concept, mentioned in the Mar-Jun Journal 2016. So I have knocked together a quick quiz, for those that do not understand Inferred Marriage Partners. 1. What are IMP marriages? 2. What use are IMP marriages? 3. Will they be searchable on the GMI? 4. Where will the information come from? 5. Can we made it easier for Marriage Challengers? Before the answers, link to an even older article on the subject: http://www.one-name.org/members/journal/articles/vol11-9_Fowler.pdf 1. A simple concept for marriages 1852-1911 where four names are listed, if two are paired the remaining two can also be matched. 2. GMI is the source of all information we know about marriages for new members etc. The more information the better. 3. Not yet but soon, I am advised - but all my IMPs are already submitted. 4. From a detailed study of all Fowler marriages on the GMI, 90%+ currently come from MCs & CPs. 5 Yes Give them the information with your MC submission !!! The Hungerford MC closes on the 9th April, to see my suggestion for editing the standard submissions Excel: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RTLPQUKaVn7wU-hpUp03CxNCVZBoVYPmFRjcbIoAxWw/edit#gid=1878539376 As the meerkat says - "SIMPLE". Why the initiative for this needs to come from me ? - No Idea, any support out there, on am I ploughing a lone furrough? Robert Fowler 5464 PS You can ask the Challenger for help with the odd 3 & 5 name records on FreeBMD !!

Hi There has been zero discussion on this Forum about the IMP concept, mentioned in the Mar-Jun Journal 2016. So I have knocked together a quick quiz, for those that do not understand Inferred Marriage Partners. 1. What are IMP marriages? 2. What use are IMP marriages? 3. Will they be searchable on the GMI? 4. Where will the information come from? 5. Can we made it easier for Marriage Challengers? Before the answers, link to an even older article on the subject: http://www.one-name.org/members/journal/articles/vol11-9_Fowler.pdf 1. A simple concept for marriages 1852-1911 where four names are listed, if two are paired the remaining two can also be matched. 2. GMI is the source of all information we know about marriages for new members etc. The more information the better. 3. Not yet but soon, I am advised - but all my IMPs are already submitted. 4. From a detailed study of all Fowler marriages on the GMI, 90%+ currently come from MCs & CPs. 5 Yes Give them the information with your MC submission !!! The Hungerford MC closes on the 9th April, to see my suggestion for editing the standard submissions Excel: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RTLPQUKaVn7wU-hpUp03CxNCVZBoVYPmFRjcbIoAxWw/edit#gid=1878539376 As the meerkat says - "SIMPLE". Why the initiative for this needs to come from me ? - No Idea, any support out there, on am I ploughing a lone furrough? Robert Fowler 5464 PS You can ask the Challenger for help with the odd 3 & 5 name records on FreeBMD !!

I'm struggling to sort out problems such as duplicates and relationships with my ancient line of Dunbars. Not very exciting, but once in a while something raises a smile. For instance - Sir William Rowe Dunbar (1776-1841) married his cousin Jacobina Anne Copeland (1776-1807) Checked with Relationship Calculator, search within 250 generations Husband 2nd cousin 1st cousin 3 removed, then 37 relaionships later 2nd cousin 246 times removed. I think I'll stick with husband and second cousin! Pat Dunbar

Wishing Bob a speedy recovery. If he's not receiving email, is someone able to pass on the good wishes of the forum? Andy. At 08:51 02/04/2016, you wrote: >Just posted by Debbie Kennett to the Guild Facebook group: > >"I've been asked to advise everyone that unfortunately it will not be >possible to stream or record the sessions from this year's conference. >Bob Cumberbatch has not been well and has only recently got out of >hospital. We wish Bob all the best for a speedy recovery." > >Best wishes, Bob, and many thanks for all your work recording previous AGMs. > >Wendy > > _____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did a calculation some time ago. Assume that all of your ancestors are unique, figure three generations per century, and calculate the number of ancestors you would have in one generation by about the year 1,000. You will find it approximately equals the estimated population of Europe at that time, keeping in mind that the population included multiple generations, not all of whom would have children. I find that I am a descendant of, among others, Isabelle de Vermandois, as well as from both of her husbands and six of their children. General opinion of professional genealogists is that we are all most likely descendants of Charlemagne. Peter Fifield Wells (studying Fifield and variants.) -----Original Message----- From: Patrick R. L. Dunbar via Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 07:33 To: GOONS LIST Subject: [G] Over-egged Cousins I'm struggling to sort out problems such as duplicates and relationships with my ancient line of Dunbars. Not very exciting, but once in a while something raises a smile. For instance - Sir William Rowe Dunbar (1776-1841) married his cousin Jacobina Anne Copeland (1776-1807) Checked with Relationship Calculator, search within 250 generations Husband 2nd cousin 1st cousin 3 removed, then 37 relaionships later 2nd cousin 246 times removed. I think I'll stick with husband and second cousin! Pat Dunbar _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just posted by Debbie Kennett to the Guild Facebook group: "I've been asked to advise everyone that unfortunately it will not be possible to stream or record the sessions from this year's conference. Bob Cumberbatch has not been well and has only recently got out of hospital. We wish Bob all the best for a speedy recovery." Best wishes, Bob, and many thanks for all your work recording previous AGMs. Wendy

My best bet would be to post this request on the Dyfed Rootsweb email list. Otherwise, the only things that are worth doing is posting a message in the Dyfed FHS Journal repeating your offer of a free DNA test, or calling them up at random! Most folk do not like doing that, but it can work, as long as you take the time to talk folk through once you have their email address. The Anglo-Norman connection between Pembrokeshire and Devon / Cornwall can be traced back to at least the 12th century. Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Corinne Curtis via Sent: 01 April 2016 13:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] DNA analysis question Yes, I have quite a lot of Sinnott/Sinnett families in Pembrokeshire from at least the 18th century. I'm trying to find a Pembrokeshire Sinnett to DNA test (have even offered a free test via ISOGG), as I have already found the the Cornish SENNETTs are a sufficiently close match to the Co Wexford Sinnotts to suggest a common ancestor, and as the Irish Sinnotts appear to have come to Ireland via Pembrokeshire, it would surprise me more if they weren't of the same anglo-norman genetic stock. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Brian Swann <[email protected]> wrote: > There were certainly Sinnotts in Pembrokeshire in the mid-1800s. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Corinne Curtis via > Sent: 31 March 2016 21:48 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [G] DNA analysis question > > I have been finding that SINNOTT families with proven Co Wexford > origins seem to be all falling into the E-L117 haplogroup. This isnt > a particularly common haplogroup for Ireland, but then my Co Wexford > SINNOTTs are known to have anglo-norman rather than celtic origins. > > Up to now I have accepted that any SINNOTT with Co Wexford origins and > testing E-L117 is likely to have this anglonorman heritage and share a > common ancestor, even if their common ancestor is up to 24 generations > back (which is about the number of generations estimated to the first > SYNAD to arrive in Co Wexford). > > Early in the DNA project, I had Co Wexford SINNOTTs matching a > particular group of HEVENERS, and investigation led to a story that > the earliest known HEVENER of this line was believed to be the > illegitimate son of Patrick SINNETT (b 1752) who married Catherine > HEVENER, about a year after the birth of this HEVENER ancestor. This > could suggest that he was Catherine HEVENER's first child to Patrick SINNETT, born out of wedlock. > > I have now had a test result back for a legitimate SINNETT descendant > of Patrick and Catherine, and their 37 marker test is an exact match > for the descendant of George HEVENER, with a TiP report suggesting a > 97.28% chance of a common ancestor within 8 generations, 99.99% at 20 > generations, and 100% chance at 24 generations. The purported common > ancestor (Patrick) is actually 6 generations back. Geographically, > the HEVENERs and SINNETTs were living in the same area of West > Virginia, at the same time. > > Can I now assume that the HEVENER descendant does share a common male > ancestor with the SINNETT descendant, and that the common ancestor(s) > are likely to have been Patrick SINNETT and his future wife Catherine HEVENER? > > For what its worth, so far this is the closest match I have had (and > the only exact match) so far in the SINNOTT DNA project > > Corinne Curtis > Sennett/SInnott ONS #5579 > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One Matthew GOTHAM fought (and lost his life) in the American War of Independence. For most of 1777 he was on board HMS Chatham, appearing amongst a number in the muster rolls with an entry date of 2 Feb 1777, in the 'Whence ...' column is the comment 'from the Cartels'. The men 'from the Cartels' and some others appear under a heading 'Supernumeraries borne for Wages & VictualsOrder of Percival Shuldham, The Viscount Howe & Rear Admiral Sir Peter Parker'. I wasn't familar with the term cartels (in this context), but gather from the OED it refers to ships with prisoners to swap with the enemies priosoners. What I am interested in, does anyone know if there are American documents which would mention Matthew as one of their prisoners? (I know that American prisoners were held on board HMS Chatham and are listed by name in the muster rolls). Thanks, Teresa

I don't think I'd hold my breath waiting for an offer on an ancestry sub. That is one company that doesn't seem to do decent offers. I got really annoyed and didn't renew when I discovered that as a longtime world subscriber, my renewal "offer" as a loyal customer was the same price a new subscriber would get. In the last three months I have concentrated on maximising my use of NLI (Irish Catholic Parish Records) and familysearch, holding off resubscribing to ancestry. I figure it has saved me a bit of money and I'm only just beginning to miss it. Unfortunately for me, ancestry does seem to be the most useful subscription site for my study, and as I can only ever afford one sub, I won't be looking at other (perhaps a lot cheaper) subscription site offers. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Ken Toll via <[email protected]> wrote: > Eddie, I had a very good offer from MyHeritage a couple of days ago > because I had previously had an account with World Vital Records, > which they have now absorbed. They even offered to use their offer to > extend my current sub by 12 months. > > Why not give them a call on +44 80 0098 8125 > (Sunday through Thursday, 06:00 – 20:00 GMT & Friday 06:00 – 14:00 GMT) > and see if they are willing to do a deal. > > If you are at WDYTHYA next week it would be worth asking Ancestry > there. If not - try giving them a call too. > > Neither company will want to loose a customer! > > Ken > > > On 31 March 2016 at 18:49, Eddie Glackin via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My subscription to My Heritage Premium Plus expired recently and my subscription to Ancestry Worldwide will expire next week. >> >> Does anyone know of any special offers on the go just now or in the near future? >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I have quite a lot of Sinnott/Sinnett families in Pembrokeshire from at least the 18th century. I'm trying to find a Pembrokeshire Sinnett to DNA test (have even offered a free test via ISOGG), as I have already found the the Cornish SENNETTs are a sufficiently close match to the Co Wexford Sinnotts to suggest a common ancestor, and as the Irish Sinnotts appear to have come to Ireland via Pembrokeshire, it would surprise me more if they weren't of the same anglo-norman genetic stock. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Brian Swann <[email protected]> wrote: > There were certainly Sinnotts in Pembrokeshire in the mid-1800s. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Corinne Curtis via > Sent: 31 March 2016 21:48 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [G] DNA analysis question > > I have been finding that SINNOTT families with proven Co Wexford origins > seem to be all falling into the E-L117 haplogroup. This isnt a particularly > common haplogroup for Ireland, but then my Co Wexford SINNOTTs are known to > have anglo-norman rather than celtic origins. > > Up to now I have accepted that any SINNOTT with Co Wexford origins and > testing E-L117 is likely to have this anglonorman heritage and share a > common ancestor, even if their common ancestor is up to 24 generations back > (which is about the number of generations estimated to the first SYNAD to > arrive in Co Wexford). > > Early in the DNA project, I had Co Wexford SINNOTTs matching a particular > group of HEVENERS, and investigation led to a story that the earliest known > HEVENER of this line was believed to be the illegitimate son of Patrick > SINNETT (b 1752) who married Catherine HEVENER, about a year after the birth > of this HEVENER ancestor. This could suggest that he was Catherine > HEVENER's first child to Patrick SINNETT, born out of wedlock. > > I have now had a test result back for a legitimate SINNETT descendant of > Patrick and Catherine, and their 37 marker test is an exact match for the > descendant of George HEVENER, with a TiP report suggesting a 97.28% chance > of a common ancestor within 8 generations, 99.99% at 20 > generations, and 100% chance at 24 generations. The purported common > ancestor (Patrick) is actually 6 generations back. Geographically, the > HEVENERs and SINNETTs were living in the same area of West Virginia, at the > same time. > > Can I now assume that the HEVENER descendant does share a common male > ancestor with the SINNETT descendant, and that the common ancestor(s) are > likely to have been Patrick SINNETT and his future wife Catherine HEVENER? > > For what its worth, so far this is the closest match I have had (and the > only exact match) so far in the SINNOTT DNA project > > Corinne Curtis > Sennett/SInnott ONS #5579 > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

There were certainly Sinnotts in Pembrokeshire in the mid-1800s. Brian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Corinne Curtis via Sent: 31 March 2016 21:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] DNA analysis question I have been finding that SINNOTT families with proven Co Wexford origins seem to be all falling into the E-L117 haplogroup. This isnt a particularly common haplogroup for Ireland, but then my Co Wexford SINNOTTs are known to have anglo-norman rather than celtic origins. Up to now I have accepted that any SINNOTT with Co Wexford origins and testing E-L117 is likely to have this anglonorman heritage and share a common ancestor, even if their common ancestor is up to 24 generations back (which is about the number of generations estimated to the first SYNAD to arrive in Co Wexford). Early in the DNA project, I had Co Wexford SINNOTTs matching a particular group of HEVENERS, and investigation led to a story that the earliest known HEVENER of this line was believed to be the illegitimate son of Patrick SINNETT (b 1752) who married Catherine HEVENER, about a year after the birth of this HEVENER ancestor. This could suggest that he was Catherine HEVENER's first child to Patrick SINNETT, born out of wedlock. I have now had a test result back for a legitimate SINNETT descendant of Patrick and Catherine, and their 37 marker test is an exact match for the descendant of George HEVENER, with a TiP report suggesting a 97.28% chance of a common ancestor within 8 generations, 99.99% at 20 generations, and 100% chance at 24 generations. The purported common ancestor (Patrick) is actually 6 generations back. Geographically, the HEVENERs and SINNETTs were living in the same area of West Virginia, at the same time. Can I now assume that the HEVENER descendant does share a common male ancestor with the SINNETT descendant, and that the common ancestor(s) are likely to have been Patrick SINNETT and his future wife Catherine HEVENER? For what its worth, so far this is the closest match I have had (and the only exact match) so far in the SINNOTT DNA project Corinne Curtis Sennett/SInnott ONS #5579 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been finding that SINNOTT families with proven Co Wexford origins seem to be all falling into the E-L117 haplogroup. This isnt a particularly common haplogroup for Ireland, but then my Co Wexford SINNOTTs are known to have anglo-norman rather than celtic origins. Up to now I have accepted that any SINNOTT with Co Wexford origins and testing E-L117 is likely to have this anglonorman heritage and share a common ancestor, even if their common ancestor is up to 24 generations back (which is about the number of generations estimated to the first SYNAD to arrive in Co Wexford). Early in the DNA project, I had Co Wexford SINNOTTs matching a particular group of HEVENERS, and investigation led to a story that the earliest known HEVENER of this line was believed to be the illegitimate son of Patrick SINNETT (b 1752) who married Catherine HEVENER, about a year after the birth of this HEVENER ancestor. This could suggest that he was Catherine HEVENER's first child to Patrick SINNETT, born out of wedlock. I have now had a test result back for a legitimate SINNETT descendant of Patrick and Catherine, and their 37 marker test is an exact match for the descendant of George HEVENER, with a TiP report suggesting a 97.28% chance of a common ancestor within 8 generations, 99.99% at 20 generations, and 100% chance at 24 generations. The purported common ancestor (Patrick) is actually 6 generations back. Geographically, the HEVENERs and SINNETTs were living in the same area of West Virginia, at the same time. Can I now assume that the HEVENER descendant does share a common male ancestor with the SINNETT descendant, and that the common ancestor(s) are likely to have been Patrick SINNETT and his future wife Catherine HEVENER? For what its worth, so far this is the closest match I have had (and the only exact match) so far in the SINNOTT DNA project Corinne Curtis Sennett/SInnott ONS #5579

Eddie, I had a very good offer from MyHeritage a couple of days ago because I had previously had an account with World Vital Records, which they have now absorbed. They even offered to use their offer to extend my current sub by 12 months. Why not give them a call on +44 80 0098 8125 (Sunday through Thursday, 06:00 – 20:00 GMT & Friday 06:00 – 14:00 GMT) and see if they are willing to do a deal. If you are at WDYTHYA next week it would be worth asking Ancestry there. If not - try giving them a call too. Neither company will want to loose a customer! Ken On 31 March 2016 at 18:49, Eddie Glackin via <[email protected]> wrote: > > My subscription to My Heritage Premium Plus expired recently and my subscription to Ancestry Worldwide will expire next week. > > Does anyone know of any special offers on the go just now or in the near future? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi I have a Henry WADGE born Bristol 1821 to John & Mary but the only baptism I can find is at St Philip & St Jacob, Bristol for Henry WEDGE son of John Wedge & Mary on 11 November 1827.  This came from the index on ancestry, source is FHL film no 1596534, item 5 p 103. Is there a fellow GOON who has access to this film please who would check for me, or someone in Bristol who could check the original register at the Record Office ? I would be most grateful for any help Ann

Unless another Bristol member can beat me to the record office I'll try to get down there in the next week or so Ann I still have something to look up for John Lyle who might start nagging me soon! Best wishes and Kind regards Rich Scantlebury In global pursuit of Scantleburys & Skentelberys - 3209 http://scantlebury.one-name.net/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/richscats/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ann wadge via Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 14:52 To: goons <[email protected]> Subject: [G] Late baptism ? Hi I have a Henry WADGE born Bristol 1821 to John & Mary but the only baptism I can find is at St Philip & St Jacob, Bristol for Henry WEDGE son of John Wedge & Mary on 11 November 1827. This came from the index on ancestry, source is FHL film no 1596534, item 5 p 103. Is there a fellow GOON who has access to this film please who would check for me, or someone in Bristol who could check the original register at the Record Office ? I would be most grateful for any help Ann _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Corinne Curtis wrote: "...Can I now assume that the HEVENER descendant does share a common male ancestor with the SINNETT descendant, and that the common ancestor(s) are likely to have been Patrick SINNETT and his future wife Catherine HEVENER?" Hi Corinne, If I understand the situation correctly, it seems a pretty safe bet -- not just a common male ancestor, but a common male LINE ancestor (much more restrictive). You didn't make it clear whether your Sinnett and Hevener DNA donors are both descendants of lines that came through West Virginia, but even if they both are, the odds against a second, conicidental Sinnett/Hevener NPE seem pretty astronomical. Since they match each other exactly after 6 generations, their mutual 37-marker STR pattern is very likely identical to the ancestral pattern (or at most, a marker or two off). -Mark Bunch (GOONS #6223) Othello, Washington, USA