Robert PEPLOW in Worcester in 1911 was printer compositor born Bromsgrove. In 1901 he was a coachman groom born Bromsgrove. As Polly found, Robert John PEPLOW aged 18 born Bromsgrove had joined the Worcester Regiment in Oxford on June 13th 1891 for 7 years. He was discharged a corporal 7.10.1900 as medically unfit for further service. He had extended his service to 12 years on 18.10.1897. He was the son of John and Fanny PEPLOW of Wellesbourn Grove, Stratford upon Avon, and had married Lizzie Catherine HOWELL at Worcester Register Office 23.12.1896. The births of 2 children are listed and his papers indicate "Wife with Husband". All 3 pages of his pension record are stamped "Deceased" - but with no associated date. Robert John PEPLOW married Lizzie Catherine HOWELL Dec q 1896 Worcester RD She was born Sep q 1871 Aston RD and died (Lizzie C PEPLOW) Jun q 1946 Worcester RD age 74. Robert J PEPLOW married Lottie RASHLEIGH Sep q 1919 Falmouth RD She was born Sep q 1901 Helston RD. Can't see an obvious death or remarriage for her. If these are all the same Robert 1. did he and Lizzie divorce prior to 1919? or 2. was his marriage to Lottie bigamous? 3. what happened to Lottie? 4. die he never marry Nell(ie/y) MILLAGE - or if he did was that bigamous too? Intriguing! ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 13/04/2016 - 10:55 (GMTDT) To : [email protected], [email protected] Subject : Re: [G] Peplow in Bath I have found a Robert J Peplow on the 1891 census in Headington, Oxfordshire. He is a lodger with a family called Wills, and it says he was born in 1873 in Worcestershire, and that he was a Painter Compositor. The Wills have a daughter called Nellie, age 6 amongst their children. ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 13/04/2016 - 09:34 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : Re: [G] Peplow in Bath And Florence Louise MILLAGE married Frederick Henry G MILFORD in the Sep quarter of 1904 in the Bath RD... There is also an interesting Army Pension Record for Robert John PELOW on Ancestry, although it does not help you with this particular query. Polly ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 13/04/2016 - 09:02 (GMTDT) To : [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Subject : Re: [G] Peplow in Bath I searched Free BMD for all MILLAGE births (there aren't many - should be a ONS!) so how about Nelly MILLAGE born Mar q 1878 Bath RD 5c 607 There looks to be only 1 MILLAGE family in Bath at the time and Nelly may have had siblings Frederick 1880, Alfred Harry 1882 and Florence Louisa 1884? The parents are William and Matilda MILLAGE and the family are at Grove Street, Bathwick in 1891 (RG12/1931 f9) Ancestry have the surname in 1901 as MILLINGE and in 1911 as MILLEDGE; Nelly (1901) and Nellie (1911) is still unmarried. In 1881 they are at 22 Grove Street, Batchwick - and Nellie is enumerated (and transcribed) as Noblice! In terms of a marriage, don't forget that if you find the mothers maiden name from the birth indexes but she was a widow when she married she would have married under her married rather than maiden name. However in your case it could be they never married, particularly if Robert PEPLOW was still married? Have you found deaths for Lizzie Catharine or Lottie? Best, Alan On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Marie Byatt via <[email protected]> wrote: > I have three Peplows born In Bath - Victor Martin born 18 Jul 1922, Peter H Peplow 1918 and Betty J Peplow 23 Aug 1920. All are listed with a mother's surname of Millage. I can find no marriage between a Peplow and Millage anywhere. > However in 1939, Victor and Betty are living with Nellie Peplow Widow, b. 28 Nov 1877 in Bath. Again I can find no Nellie Millage that fits. Nellie dies in 1962 at the age of 84 and there is a Robert J Peplow that dies in Bath in 1934 at the age of 62. There appears to be only one Robert J Peplow born in the 1870s and in 1911, his wife Lizzie Catharine Howell is living in Stratford on Avon. He appears to be in prison at the time - though I have not found him yet. There is also a Robert J. Peplow in 1919 that marries a Lottie Rashleigh in Falmouth. I suspect that these are all the same Robert J and that he may have been the father of the three children in Bath. I'm hoping some one may be able to help me find the children's father's name. If it is Robert J - he seems to have been 'a bit of a lad' > > Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net

Thank you to all who replied to my query - looks like Robert moved around a bit ( just like the rest of those in his lineage. This one line likes multiple partners (rich if possible), traveling and getting into trouble - oh for a nice little group that stayed in one village , or county or even country. I can honestly say that this family is my strongest reason for doing family reconstruction - spreadsheets would have a hard time following their adventures. It is mandatory to know the cast of supporting characters to find them. Anyway off to get the military records properly entered along with police proceedings and of course, spouses . Then explaining their ancestor to his descendents. Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net ________________________________ From: Alan R Moorhouse <[email protected]> To: Marie Byatt <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [G] Peplow in Bath I searched Free BMD for all MILLAGE births (there aren't many - should be a ONS!) so how about Nelly MILLAGE born Mar q 1878 Bath RD 5c 607 There looks to be only 1 MILLAGE family in Bath at the time and Nelly may have had siblings Frederick 1880, Alfred Harry 1882 and Florence Louisa 1884? The parents are William and Matilda MILLAGE and the family are at Grove Street, Bathwick in 1891 (RG12/1931 f9) Ancestry have the surname in 1901 as MILLINGE and in 1911 as MILLEDGE; Nelly (1901) and Nellie (1911) is still unmarried. In 1881 they are at 22 Grove Street, Batchwick - and Nellie is enumerated (and transcribed) as Noblice! In terms of a marriage, don't forget that if you find the mothers maiden name from the birth indexes but she was a widow when she married she would have married under her married rather than maiden name. However in your case it could be they never married, particularly if Robert PEPLOW was still married? Have you found deaths for Lizzie Catharine or Lottie? Best, Alan ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 12/04/2016 - 23:14 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : [G] Peplow in Bath I have three Peplows born In Bath - Victor Martin born 18 Jul 1922, Peter H Peplow 1918 and Betty J Peplow 23 Aug 1920. All are listed with a mother's surname of Millage. I can find no marriage between a Peplow and Millage anywhere. However in 1939, Victor and Betty are living with Nellie Peplow Widow, b. 28 Nov 1877 in Bath. Again I can find no Nellie Millage that fits. Nellie dies in 1962 at the age of 84 and there is a Robert J Peplow that dies in Bath in 1934 at the age of 62. There appears to be only one Robert J Peplow born in the 1870s and in 1911, his wife Lizzie Catharine Howell is living in Stratford on Avon. He appears to be in prison at the time - though I have not found him yet. There is also a Robert J. Peplow in 1919 that marries a Lottie Rashleigh in Falmouth. I suspect that these are all the same Robert J and that he may have been the father of the three children in Bath. I'm hoping some one may be able to help me find the children's father's name. If it is Robert J - he seems to have been 'a bit of a lad' Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found a Robert J Peplow on the 1891 census in Headington, Oxfordshire. He is a lodger with a family called Wills, and it says he was born in 1873 in Worcestershire, and that he was a Painter Compositor. The Wills have a daughter called Nellie, age 6 amongst their children. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Marie Byatt via <[email protected]> wrote: > I have three Peplows born In Bath - Victor Martin born 18 Jul 1922, Peter H Peplow 1918 and Betty J Peplow 23 Aug 1920. All are listed with a mother's surname of Millage. I can find no marriage between a Peplow and Millage anywhere. > However in 1939, Victor and Betty are living with Nellie Peplow Widow, b. 28 Nov 1877 in Bath. Again I can find no Nellie Millage that fits. Nellie dies in 1962 at the age of 84 and there is a Robert J Peplow that dies in Bath in 1934 at the age of 62. There appears to be only one Robert J Peplow born in the 1870s and in 1911, his wife Lizzie Catharine Howell is living in Stratford on Avon. He appears to be in prison at the time - though I have not found him yet. There is also a Robert J. Peplow in 1919 that marries a Lottie Rashleigh in Falmouth. I suspect that these are all the same Robert J and that he may have been the father of the three children in Bath. I'm hoping some one may be able to help me find the children's father's name. If it is Robert J - he seems to have been 'a bit of a lad' > > Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com > 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- sarah

And Florence Louise MILLAGE married Frederick Henry G MILFORD in the Sep quarter of 1904 in the Bath RD... There is also an interesting Army Pension Record for Robert John PELOW on Ancestry, although it does not help you with this particular query. Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Stevens via" <[email protected]> To: "Marie Byatt" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [G] Peplow in Bath Hi Marie, There is a report in the "Bath Chronicle & Weekly Gazette" of 7 July 1934, of the funeral of Robert John Peplow of 7 Daniel Street, Bath. The mourners included his widow Mrs N. Peplow, daughter Miss Betty Peplow, son master Victor Peplow, and Mrs Milford sister-in-law. Hope this helps, Sandra Stevens (2320 Hazelwood & variants) >----Original message---- >From : [email protected] >Date : 12/04/2016 - 23:14 (GMTDT) >To : [email protected] >Subject : [G] Peplow in Bath > >I have three Peplows born In Bath - Victor Martin born 18 Jul 1922, Peter H >Peplow 1918 and Betty J Peplow 23 Aug 1920. All are listed with a mother's >surname of Millage. I can find no marriage between a Peplow and Millage >anywhere. >However in 1939, Victor and Betty are living with Nellie Peplow Widow, b. >28 Nov 1877 in Bath. Again I can find no Nellie Millage that fits. Nellie >dies in 1962 at the age of 84 and there is a Robert J Peplow that dies in >Bath in 1934 at the age of 62. There appears to be only one Robert J >Peplow born in the 1870s and in 1911, his wife Lizzie Catharine Howell is >living in Stratford on Avon. He appears to be in prison at the time - >though I have not found him yet. There is also a Robert J. Peplow in 1919 >that marries a Lottie Rashleigh in Falmouth. I suspect that these are all >the same Robert J and that he may have been the father of the three >children in Bath. I'm hoping some one may be able to help me find the >children's father's name. If it is Robert J - he seems to have been 'a bit >of a lad' > >Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A >Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' >http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study >http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and >Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com >'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net > _____________________________________________ > >RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I searched Free BMD for all MILLAGE births (there aren't many - should be a ONS!) so how about Nelly MILLAGE born Mar q 1878 Bath RD 5c 607 There looks to be only 1 MILLAGE family in Bath at the time and Nelly may have had siblings Frederick 1880, Alfred Harry 1882 and Florence Louisa 1884? The parents are William and Matilda MILLAGE and the family are at Grove Street, Bathwick in 1891 (RG12/1931 f9) Ancestry have the surname in 1901 as MILLINGE and in 1911 as MILLEDGE; Nelly (1901) and Nellie (1911) is still unmarried. In 1881 they are at 22 Grove Street, Batchwick - and Nellie is enumerated (and transcribed) as Noblice! In terms of a marriage, don't forget that if you find the mothers maiden name from the birth indexes but she was a widow when she married she would have married under her married rather than maiden name. However in your case it could be they never married, particularly if Robert PEPLOW was still married? Have you found deaths for Lizzie Catharine or Lottie? Best, Alan ----Original message---- >From : [email protected] Date : 12/04/2016 - 23:14 (GMTDT) To : [email protected] Subject : [G] Peplow in Bath I have three Peplows born In Bath - Victor Martin born 18 Jul 1922, Peter H Peplow 1918 and Betty J Peplow 23 Aug 1920. All are listed with a mother's surname of Millage. I can find no marriage between a Peplow and Millage anywhere. However in 1939, Victor and Betty are living with Nellie Peplow Widow, b. 28 Nov 1877 in Bath. Again I can find no Nellie Millage that fits. Nellie dies in 1962 at the age of 84 and there is a Robert J Peplow that dies in Bath in 1934 at the age of 62. There appears to be only one Robert J Peplow born in the 1870s and in 1911, his wife Lizzie Catharine Howell is living in Stratford on Avon. He appears to be in prison at the time - though I have not found him yet. There is also a Robert J. Peplow in 1919 that marries a Lottie Rashleigh in Falmouth. I suspect that these are all the same Robert J and that he may have been the father of the three children in Bath. I'm hoping some one may be able to help me find the children's father's name. If it is Robert J - he seems to have been 'a bit of a lad' Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have three Peplows born In Bath - Victor Martin born 18 Jul 1922, Peter H Peplow 1918 and Betty J Peplow 23 Aug 1920. All are listed with a mother's surname of Millage. I can find no marriage between a Peplow and Millage anywhere. However in 1939, Victor and Betty are living with Nellie Peplow Widow, b. 28 Nov 1877 in Bath. Again I can find no Nellie Millage that fits. Nellie dies in 1962 at the age of 84 and there is a Robert J Peplow that dies in Bath in 1934 at the age of 62. There appears to be only one Robert J Peplow born in the 1870s and in 1911, his wife Lizzie Catharine Howell is living in Stratford on Avon. He appears to be in prison at the time - though I have not found him yet. There is also a Robert J. Peplow in 1919 that marries a Lottie Rashleigh in Falmouth. I suspect that these are all the same Robert J and that he may have been the father of the three children in Bath. I'm hoping some one may be able to help me find the children's father's name. If it is Robert J - he seems to have been 'a bit of a lad' Marie (GOONS 5318) Bringing the world together one surname at a time. 'A Pepler Name' http://pepler.tribalpages.com 'Hedgerow - the Ancestors' http://cranberry.tribalpages.com Pepler DNA Study http://www.familytreedna.com/public/pepler-ow/ 'Scroops, Scropes and Scroopes' http://dentonlk.tribalpages.com 'Peplers and Peplows' pepler.one-name.net

Recent correspondence on copyright reminds me that I get somewhat annoyed that people pass on any information you give them, regardless. My worst experience was when I thoughtlessly passed on the details of the death of someone a few weeks after the event, and the recipient instantly put it on his tree on FamilySearch, earning me an instant complaint from the widow of the deceased. We did manage to get it removed. In my early days of research I happily gave copies of Census images and BMD certificates to fellow researchers, but never put any of this on the Web myself. Now there are literally dozens of reproductions of these images on Ancestry; I know the certificates are from mine because of the serial numbers and dates. I can't identify any of the people who have done this and it wouldn't help if I did - it is too late, and many will say it is right to do this anyway. At least I can now know that the GRO won't pursue me for copyright infringements because their website now says: "Q: I'm publishing my family tree on the internet - I want to publish images of the certificates I have. A: As long as there are no details about living individuals there is no problem about publishing the images of the certificates on your family tree website. Any modern certificates would be subject to the Data Protection Act, and would need the permission of any living named person prior to publication." but from the recent messages the Census images aren't that straightforward. I now don't give away copies of certificates or censuses, I just give references; if the recipients can't take my word for it, hard luck. Adrian

Hi All After attending the Alwalton seminar in February, I've decided to create stories using the info in the census, I brought Gill Blanchard's Book ' Writing your Family History' and it's given me some very good ideas to become more creative, I shall do this for all my direct line Teear males and will also do it for individual families among the variant names too. I'm hope it will really show that I've researched the families I'm not related too and will grab peoples attention who these families are related to, to get involved with any additional information they might know. Sue TEEAR,TEAR,TEARE,TEER,McTEAR One Name Study with the GUILD OF ONE NAME STUDIES Leicestershire & Nottingham Area GOONS Rep ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Barrall via <[email protected]> Sent: 12 April 2016 06:26 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Making Census images available on my Guild website Thank you to all that made a suggestion I will place these images on my website but keep them "private" and not freely available on my Guild website. Regards David Barrall Guild of One Name Studies Member: 4461 Studying the names of Barrell and Barrall http://barrell.one-name.net/ > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:01:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [G] Making Census images available on my Guild website > From: [email protected] > > David Barrall sent 11 April 2016 15:46 > >> ... if I make the images private but keep the data available then I would > not have to pay these high costs. > > That is my approach. I keep all the images private, with the data public. > But please be careful about "data". While the data in the image is freely > usable, if you copy a list of the data (e.g. a list from Ancestry of all the > John Doe born 1895), then that list is the property of Ancestry. If you > copy the data into your database / spreadsheet, alter the headings, etc - > and then show the results, then that is your index. There is probably a > grey area there - but it is better to try not to "cut & paste" from others' > work. So - I have hundreds of thousands of entries from Ancestry's census > index. As much as I'd like to, I cannot publish this as it is not my work > to publish. So - it remains my own private source of data. > > As always - if you are quoting from a document, then it is always better to > cite the source. Not only does that recognise the efforts of the people who > provided the data, but it helps you meet the Terms & Conditions that most > on-line sources place on you. > > Chris > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to all that made a suggestion I will place these images on my website but keep them "private" and not freely available on my Guild website. Regards David Barrall Guild of One Name Studies Member: 4461 Studying the names of Barrell and Barrall http://barrell.one-name.net/ > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:01:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [G] Making Census images available on my Guild website > From: [email protected] > > David Barrall sent 11 April 2016 15:46 > >> ... if I make the images private but keep the data available then I would > not have to pay these high costs. > > That is my approach. I keep all the images private, with the data public. > But please be careful about "data". While the data in the image is freely > usable, if you copy a list of the data (e.g. a list from Ancestry of all the > John Doe born 1895), then that list is the property of Ancestry. If you > copy the data into your database / spreadsheet, alter the headings, etc - > and then show the results, then that is your index. There is probably a > grey area there - but it is better to try not to "cut & paste" from others' > work. So - I have hundreds of thousands of entries from Ancestry's census > index. As much as I'd like to, I cannot publish this as it is not my work > to publish. So - it remains my own private source of data. > > As always - if you are quoting from a document, then it is always better to > cite the source. Not only does that recognise the efforts of the people who > provided the data, but it helps you meet the Terms & Conditions that most > on-line sources place on you. > > Chris > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David Barrall sent 11 April 2016 15:46 > ... if I make the images private but keep the data available then I would not have to pay these high costs. That is my approach. I keep all the images private, with the data public. But please be careful about "data". While the data in the image is freely usable, if you copy a list of the data (e.g. a list from Ancestry of all the John Doe born 1895), then that list is the property of Ancestry. If you copy the data into your database / spreadsheet, alter the headings, etc - and then show the results, then that is your index. There is probably a grey area there - but it is better to try not to "cut & paste" from others' work. So - I have hundreds of thousands of entries from Ancestry's census index. As much as I'd like to, I cannot publish this as it is not my work to publish. So - it remains my own private source of data. As always - if you are quoting from a document, then it is always better to cite the source. Not only does that recognise the efforts of the people who provided the data, but it helps you meet the Terms & Conditions that most on-line sources place on you. Chris

When I asked Ancestry and FindMyPast about census and other images - the answer was NO. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Barrall via Sent: 11 April 2016 15:46 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Making Census images available on my Guild website I have just asked a question to the National achieves regarding using census images on an open website for instance my own guild website and was amazed at the pricing they have asked. >Dear David >Thank you for your e-mail. >The reproduction of images of documents from The National Archives on an open website in perpetuity costs a one-off fee of £40.00 + £8.00 VAT. This>fee covers the upload of between one and twenty TNA document images. >The images must be protected from download at high resolution. You can do this by watermarking, or by keeping the resolution to a level whereby the>documents are legible for information and research, but are not of sufficient quality for commercial publication I suppose if I make the images private but keep the data available then I would not have to pay these high costs. Regards David Barrall Guild of One Name Studies Member: 4461 Studying the names of Barrell and Barrall _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim and John, Have found the family in the 1940 Census once again a miss transcription however based on the image I can understand how that happened. The family is listed under the Grimson surname, which by chance some of the family have used when it suited as well. Once again David is listed as David A and in 1940 aged 17 so that is a good fit plus in the right location for The David Arthur Grimason in the Manchester High School Year book the following year. I think the case is now solved. On 11/04/2016 5:13 AM, Jim Owston via wrote: > John: > > The listing for Connecticut is not the birthplace. It is the state > where the Social Security Card was issued. This can be ascertained by > the first three numbers - which are assigned to particular states. A > person could be born anywhere else, but the listing represents the > state where the person was a resident when the card was issued. > > While it is now customary that all persons born in the US receive a SS > card soon after birth, this is a fairly new practice. In the past, a > person would only apply for a card when he/she began working or opened > a bank account. So a person born in New York and living in > Connecticut at the time of application would receive a Connecticut > number. > > Jim > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 8:31 AM, John Carey via <[email protected]> wrote: >> David >> >> The Social Security death index on Ancestry does not give parents names but >> it lists his birthplace as Connecticut. So, he is likely the 6-year-old >> David A Grimason living in Manchester, Hartford, Connecticut at the time of >> the 1930 census. He was living with his parents William R Grimason (37, >> Northern Ireland) and Eunive Grimason (32, Connecticut) and his 11-year-old >> brother William R. A Member's tree says that Eunice's maiden name was >> Wilson. It also gives son William's middle name as Reginald. >> >> Vermont marriage records show a 1917 marriage between the 23-year-old >> Irish-born tailor William Grimason (son of Abel B. Grimason and Sarah S. >> McCall of Ireland) and Eunice Wilson. Both the bride and groom's addresses >> are So. Manchester Connecticut but they married in Battleboro Vermont 23 >> March 1917. >> >> John Carey (GOONS 6565) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Sherlock Holmes via >> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 07:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [G] Help with SS Record >> >> Hi, >> Can Some Kind Soul please look at the US Social Security file for the >> following person. >> What I would like to do is check on who the persons parents were. >> Name *David Arthur Grimason* >> Birth *23 Apr 1923* >> Death *6 Oct 2011 - Whittier, Los Angeles, California* >> Civil *Connecticut* >> >> >> Grimason, David Arthur was a Real Estate - Salesperson licensed to >> practice in California. >> The license was granted 05/02/1970 and expired on 05/01/1986. >> >> Regards, >> David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) >> Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the >> "Grimason" surname World Wide. >> A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 >> formerly 2962 >> The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some.

Hi John & Jim, Have found David Arthur Grimason in a Manchester High School , CT Year Book for 1941 now just need to find him in the Census for the year before hopefully with his parents. For some reason William Grimason and Eunice Grimason are not appearing in the 1940 Census of Manchester, Hartford, Connecticut, USA on Ancestry.com, Same goes for David A Grimason as well, Yet the son of William Grimason, William Reginald Grimason along with his wife Dorothy do appear. Any Idea's. On 11/04/2016 5:13 AM, Jim Owston via wrote: > John: > > The listing for Connecticut is not the birthplace. It is the state > where the Social Security Card was issued. This can be ascertained by > the first three numbers - which are assigned to particular states. A > person could be born anywhere else, but the listing represents the > state where the person was a resident when the card was issued. > > While it is now customary that all persons born in the US receive a SS > card soon after birth, this is a fairly new practice. In the past, a > person would only apply for a card when he/she began working or opened > a bank account. So a person born in New York and living in > Connecticut at the time of application would receive a Connecticut > number. > > Jim > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 8:31 AM, John Carey via <[email protected]> wrote: >> David >> >> The Social Security death index on Ancestry does not give parents names but >> it lists his birthplace as Connecticut. So, he is likely the 6-year-old >> David A Grimason living in Manchester, Hartford, Connecticut at the time of >> the 1930 census. He was living with his parents William R Grimason (37, >> Northern Ireland) and Eunive Grimason (32, Connecticut) and his 11-year-old >> brother William R. A Member's tree says that Eunice's maiden name was >> Wilson. It also gives son William's middle name as Reginald. >> >> Vermont marriage records show a 1917 marriage between the 23-year-old >> Irish-born tailor William Grimason (son of Abel B. Grimason and Sarah S. >> McCall of Ireland) and Eunice Wilson. Both the bride and groom's addresses >> are So. Manchester Connecticut but they married in Battleboro Vermont 23 >> March 1917. >> >> John Carey (GOONS 6565) >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Sherlock Holmes via >> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 07:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [G] Help with SS Record >> >> Hi, >> Can Some Kind Soul please look at the US Social Security file for the >> following person. >> What I would like to do is check on who the persons parents were. >> Name *David Arthur Grimason* >> Birth *23 Apr 1923* >> Death *6 Oct 2011 - Whittier, Los Angeles, California* >> Civil *Connecticut* >> >> >> Grimason, David Arthur was a Real Estate - Salesperson licensed to >> practice in California. >> The license was granted 05/02/1970 and expired on 05/01/1986. >> >> Regards, >> David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) >> Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the >> "Grimason" surname World Wide. >> A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 >> formerly 2962 >> The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some.

I have just asked a question to the National achieves regarding using census images on an open website for instance my own guild website and was amazed at the pricing they have asked. >Dear David >Thank you for your e-mail. >The reproduction of images of documents from The National Archives on an open website in perpetuity costs a one-off fee of £40.00 + £8.00 VAT. This>fee covers the upload of between one and twenty TNA document images. >The images must be protected from download at high resolution. You can do this by watermarking, or by keeping the resolution to a level whereby the>documents are legible for information and research, but are not of sufficient quality for commercial publication I suppose if I make the images private but keep the data available then I would not have to pay these high costs. Regards David Barrall Guild of One Name Studies Member: 4461 Studying the names of Barrell and Barrall

John: The listing for Connecticut is not the birthplace. It is the state where the Social Security Card was issued. This can be ascertained by the first three numbers - which are assigned to particular states. A person could be born anywhere else, but the listing represents the state where the person was a resident when the card was issued. While it is now customary that all persons born in the US receive a SS card soon after birth, this is a fairly new practice. In the past, a person would only apply for a card when he/she began working or opened a bank account. So a person born in New York and living in Connecticut at the time of application would receive a Connecticut number. Jim On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 8:31 AM, John Carey via <[email protected]> wrote: > David > > The Social Security death index on Ancestry does not give parents names but > it lists his birthplace as Connecticut. So, he is likely the 6-year-old > David A Grimason living in Manchester, Hartford, Connecticut at the time of > the 1930 census. He was living with his parents William R Grimason (37, > Northern Ireland) and Eunive Grimason (32, Connecticut) and his 11-year-old > brother William R. A Member's tree says that Eunice's maiden name was > Wilson. It also gives son William's middle name as Reginald. > > Vermont marriage records show a 1917 marriage between the 23-year-old > Irish-born tailor William Grimason (son of Abel B. Grimason and Sarah S. > McCall of Ireland) and Eunice Wilson. Both the bride and groom's addresses > are So. Manchester Connecticut but they married in Battleboro Vermont 23 > March 1917. > > John Carey (GOONS 6565) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Sherlock Holmes via > Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 07:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [G] Help with SS Record > > Hi, > Can Some Kind Soul please look at the US Social Security file for the > following person. > What I would like to do is check on who the persons parents were. > Name *David Arthur Grimason* > Birth *23 Apr 1923* > Death *6 Oct 2011 - Whittier, Los Angeles, California* > Civil *Connecticut* > > > Grimason, David Arthur was a Real Estate - Salesperson licensed to > practice in California. > The license was granted 05/02/1970 and expired on 05/01/1986. > > Regards, > David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) > Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the > "Grimason" surname World Wide. > A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 > formerly 2962 > The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Jim James M. Owston, EdD Owston One-Name Study #5647 [email protected] http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?find=5647

Perhaps I should have written "5 or 6 ""Husbands"" or even partners, but I was trying to be polite!! She actually only married three times (that I have discovered - although you cannot be certain of that, overseas marriages etc being a possibility), although luckily the first and last changes of name were by marriage. But I haven't got the other marriage certificate, not needed them until now, and I'll see what happens. If your page 20 child had the same name and birth date and it actually says see page 20 on her original page then it will perhaps be a string of childhood illnesses and treatments which prompted the entries to run over to another page. But the page 20 will be a list of completely unrelated indivduals (in the most cases) whose only connection is that their original entries have run out of space for updates, or that there is some significant correction which needed more space to make. The street address is given in the first column of each entry and the only place details are in the heading, quite often just the GRO codes., or just the District - which is so for the Hereford Rural District and as nearly every farm and cottage name seems to be repeated ad nauseum in each parish, it is quite a job to determine which one it is in! Towns shouldn't be such a problem....but what was it someone said about "should" on here?! Kind regards Polly I can't understand why these have been redacted, perhaps it was just thought they wouldn't be of interest, but I am *very* interested in the health of my relatives! Or maybe it is just the NHS covering their backs? ----- Original Message ----- From: "broomfield-ons" <[email protected]> To: "'Polly Rubery'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Jean Normington'" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:19 PM Subject: RE: [G] 1939 Register I edited the original below just to add my own experience - 2 cases from this thread. "See page 20" issue - I had one of these also to page 20 (is this significant??) The individual was a young child with the same name and dob in both (same person?) Unfortunately I could not make any other judgement as the rest on the entries on this page 20 were redacted. Is there a way to link the Register page to an address? Opening a closed record with a female married in 1939 who remarried subsequently and died in 1991. I sent 1st marriage certificate and death certificate which have 2nd marriage surname and birth surname and the record was unlocked. FMP obviously did not check the transcription very well as it was incorrect but I posted the corrections which have now been done (although FMP have not told me!) Did you really mean this lady had 5 or 6 husbands?? If so I think you might need to send copies all of the marriage certificates! Chris Broomfield Broomfield, Bromfield & Brumfield One Name Study -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Polly Rubery via Sent: 09 April 2016 18:00 To: Jean Normington; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register <snip> I seem to be having a problem with this at the moment as I recently applied for a redacted record to be opened and sent off the death certificate in the prescribed manner. The trouble is the death certificate only gave the lady's maiden name and that of her last husband (she had five or six!) and by 1939 she was already married to the first . So they siad they couldn't open the page because the names didn't match.... Kind regards Polly

I edited the original below just to add my own experience - 2 cases from this thread. "See page 20" issue - I had one of these also to page 20 (is this significant??) The individual was a young child with the same name and dob in both (same person?) Unfortunately I could not make any other judgement as the rest on the entries on this page 20 were redacted. Is there a way to link the Register page to an address? Opening a closed record with a female married in 1939 who remarried subsequently and died in 1991. I sent 1st marriage certificate and death certificate which have 2nd marriage surname and birth surname and the record was unlocked. FMP obviously did not check the transcription very well as it was incorrect but I posted the corrections which have now been done (although FMP have not told me!) Did you really mean this lady had 5 or 6 husbands?? If so I think you might need to send copies all of the marriage certificates! Chris Broomfield Broomfield, Bromfield & Brumfield One Name Study -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Polly Rubery via Sent: 09 April 2016 18:00 To: Jean Normington; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] 1939 Register <snip> I seem to be having a problem with this at the moment as I recently applied for a redacted record to be opened and sent off the death certificate in the prescribed manner. The trouble is the death certificate only gave the lady's maiden name and that of her last husband (she had five or six!) and by 1939 she was already married to the first . So they siad they couldn't open the page because the names didn't match.... Kind regards Polly

Hi, Can Some Kind Soul please look at the US Social Security file for the following person. What I would like to do is check on who the persons parents were. Name *David Arthur Grimason* Birth *23 Apr 1923* Death *6 Oct 2011 - Whittier, Los Angeles, California* Civil *Connecticut* Grimason, David Arthur was a Real Estate - Salesperson licensed to practice in California. The license was granted 05/02/1970 and expired on 05/01/1986. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some.

David Just a quick follow-up. The WW I draft registration card for William Grimason gives his birth as occurring on June 8 1892 in Portadown, Ireland. Indicentally, the marriage place may have been Brattleboro not Battleboro. John Carey (GOONS 6565) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherlock Holmes via Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 07:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Help with SS Record Hi, Can Some Kind Soul please look at the US Social Security file for the following person. What I would like to do is check on who the persons parents were. Name *David Arthur Grimason* Birth *23 Apr 1923* Death *6 Oct 2011 - Whittier, Los Angeles, California* Civil *Connecticut* Grimason, David Arthur was a Real Estate - Salesperson licensed to practice in California. The license was granted 05/02/1970 and expired on 05/01/1986. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David The Social Security death index on Ancestry does not give parents names but it lists his birthplace as Connecticut. So, he is likely the 6-year-old David A Grimason living in Manchester, Hartford, Connecticut at the time of the 1930 census. He was living with his parents William R Grimason (37, Northern Ireland) and Eunive Grimason (32, Connecticut) and his 11-year-old brother William R. A Member's tree says that Eunice's maiden name was Wilson. It also gives son William's middle name as Reginald. Vermont marriage records show a 1917 marriage between the 23-year-old Irish-born tailor William Grimason (son of Abel B. Grimason and Sarah S. McCall of Ireland) and Eunice Wilson. Both the bride and groom's addresses are So. Manchester Connecticut but they married in Battleboro Vermont 23 March 1917. John Carey (GOONS 6565) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherlock Holmes via Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 07:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [G] Help with SS Record Hi, Can Some Kind Soul please look at the US Social Security file for the following person. What I would like to do is check on who the persons parents were. Name *David Arthur Grimason* Birth *23 Apr 1923* Death *6 Oct 2011 - Whittier, Los Angeles, California* Civil *Connecticut* Grimason, David Arthur was a Real Estate - Salesperson licensed to practice in California. The license was granted 05/02/1970 and expired on 05/01/1986. Regards, David J Grimshaw (or is it Grimason?) Genealogical Researcher of the "Grimason" surname and variations of the "Grimason" surname World Wide. A One Name study registered with the Guild of One Name Studies (GOONS): 6138 formerly 2962 The "Sherlock Holmes" of this family according to some. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message