Chris I've got one entry also indexed with 2 surnames but she did not marry into my ONS till 1971. I'd also be interested in where they got the names from. Brian On 13/06/2016 14:50, Chris Pitt Lewis via wrote: > Certainly in the case of one close relative of mine the second name is > her married name. Both surnames are searchable. > > Another woman that she worked with, however, is listed only under her > married name. I suspect this is because she was already married when > recruited. > > What is not clear to me is how the Bletchley Park historians discovered > the married names of women (like my relative) who married after they > left BP - whether they are dependent on veterans or their relatives > having got in touch with them in recent years or whether something more > systematic has been done. > > Chris Pitt-Lewis > GOONS Member 2137 - BRIGSTOCK(E), BRIDG(E)STOCK, BRICKSTOCK > > On 13/06/2016 13:39, Alan R Moorhouse via wrote: >> I was alerted to this website this morning by the Cave FHS (there are 2 Farmery listings) >> and don't recall seeing it mentioned before on the Forum? >> >> http://rollofhonour.bletchleypark.org.uk/ >> >> It lists "all those believed to have worked in signals intelligence during World War Two, >> at Bletchley Park and other locations" and includes 11,112 personnel so there should be >> same ONS names there! A quick check shows mention of Adshead, Toll, Lashbrook .... >> >> Some of the women are listed with a 2nd surname in brackets and this looks to be their >> married name? >> >> Good hunting! >> >> Alan Moorhouse >> Stroud, Gloucestershire >> #2307 [email protected] >> _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Certainly in the case of one close relative of mine the second name is her married name. Both surnames are searchable. Another woman that she worked with, however, is listed only under her married name. I suspect this is because she was already married when recruited. What is not clear to me is how the Bletchley Park historians discovered the married names of women (like my relative) who married after they left BP - whether they are dependent on veterans or their relatives having got in touch with them in recent years or whether something more systematic has been done. Chris Pitt-Lewis GOONS Member 2137 - BRIGSTOCK(E), BRIDG(E)STOCK, BRICKSTOCK On 13/06/2016 13:39, Alan R Moorhouse via wrote: > I was alerted to this website this morning by the Cave FHS (there are 2 Farmery listings) > and don't recall seeing it mentioned before on the Forum? > > http://rollofhonour.bletchleypark.org.uk/ > > It lists "all those believed to have worked in signals intelligence during World War Two, > at Bletchley Park and other locations" and includes 11,112 personnel so there should be > same ONS names there! A quick check shows mention of Adshead, Toll, Lashbrook .... > > Some of the women are listed with a 2nd surname in brackets and this looks to be their > married name? > > Good hunting! > > Alan Moorhouse > Stroud, Gloucestershire > #2307 [email protected] > _____________________________________________

Folks: I am looking for city directories for Scarborough in the 1870s. I am trying to pinpoint a death of a mariner at sea. No burial records exist as he was not buried in the local parish. His death occurred between 1871 and January 1878. The directories may list his wife as a widow and this may pinpoint a year of death. The sailor's name was Thomas Owston born 1840 - married to Hannah Pockley. The date of death will aid in determining the paternity of his children, as some were clearly born years after his death. The paternity of several of his older children are in question. Thanks for any help in this matter. -- Jim James M. Owston, EdD Owston One-Name Study #5647 [email protected] http://www.one-name.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?find=5647

I was alerted to this website this morning by the Cave FHS (there are 2 Farmery listings) and don't recall seeing it mentioned before on the Forum? http://rollofhonour.bletchleypark.org.uk/ It lists "all those believed to have worked in signals intelligence during World War Two, at Bletchley Park and other locations" and includes 11,112 personnel so there should be same ONS names there! A quick check shows mention of Adshead, Toll, Lashbrook .... Some of the women are listed with a 2nd surname in brackets and this looks to be their married name? Good hunting! Alan Moorhouse Stroud, Gloucestershire #2307 [email protected]

Thanks to everyone who has answered my question about writing about DNA. I have passed on some suggestions (particularly the publicly available material in ISOGG) to my surname study contact. I have also suggested that he might want to consider joining GOONS for the wealth of information available here. Corinne Curtis #5579 On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Corinne Curtis <[email protected]> wrote: > I have someone in my ONS who is writing a SINNOTT history and wants to > include a chapter about how DNA can help link families. Has anyone > already done this or can suggest books or articles for him to read or > to link to that give a good lay understanding? > > Corinne Curtis > #5579

I won't add to the excellent suggestions already made, other than to say that there are lots of resources available online. A good place to start is www.familytreedna.com at both their 'Resources' educational pages and their 'Projects' pages where you can see how other DNA surname studies are being conducted. I'm a ONS newbie. I know that there are three main branches of Escotts, from Cornwall, Devon and Somerset. We have always wondered if there is a connection, but the Cornish records hit a brick wall where crucial parish records are recorded as lost. I have recently found a Somerset Escott who agreed to Y-DNA testing and am now waiting to see if he is related to my Cornish Escotts. Nothing but Y-DNA could answer this question. Ros Escott Escott ONS Tasmania, Australia

Does anyone know how long Banns were valid for? Banns for John Corner and Elizabeth Lee were read on three Sundays from 25 April 1802 at St Anne's Soho, but there was no marriage. They were read again on the three Sundays from 25 December 1803, again at St Anne's, and the couple married there on 15 January 1804. There are too many Elizabeth Lees born in Westminster for me to work out whether or not she was underage which could have been an impediment the first time. Did the marriage have to take place within a certain period of time following the reading hence them being called again? Ann McDonald Corner ONS

Hi John, As you are quoting R.D.s for the Murphy births and death do you have copies of the original certificates giving dates and addresses? Think you need to know how long Patrick lived, whether just a few minutes or over a month, to establish who was responsible for his burial. Whether it was a pauper burial or the parents had time for him to be baptized and have a family funeral and burial in his own grave. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john titterton via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:52 PM Subject: [G] Finding a grave, Loughborough RD 1941 > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some lines of enquiry I can follow to try and find the > burial place of a baby who was my first cousin? (He died before I was > born.) My mother's sister Joan Hales married John J Murphy in Dec quarter > of 1939. They had three sons born in the UK and then emigrated to Canada > where three further children were born. The eldest of the native > Canadians, > Marjorie, is visiting later this year and apart from seeking out where her > parents lived in the UK would like to find the grave of her brother > Patrick. > > Patrick J Murphey was born in December quarter 1941 and died in the same > quarter. His death is registered as Loughborough 7a 261. ( His birth is > Loughborough 7a 304.) His two UK born brothers were born in Derbyshire > and > that is where we though he was born so Loughborough is a bit of a > surprise. > > One thing I realized as soon as I started to think about this is that the > death/burial can be associated with three different places; > > The location of actual death, e.g. at home or in hospital' > The location of the funeral service - my uncle was RC and my aunt a > staunch > convert so I would expect this to be a local RC church > The place of burial, Church yard or cemetery. > > Add to this the fact that Loughborough RD seems to cover a wide > geographical area including Ashby de la Zouch Barrow upon Soar Billesdon > Blaby Leicester Lutterworth Market Bosworth Melton Mowbray Hinckley > Loughborough, potentially I have a large area to search. > > Can anyone advise me how much the RD codes Loughborough 7a 304 and 7a 261 > can be used to narrow down the area of research. Also are RC churches > likely to have their own grave yards of am I looking at municipal > cemeteries? > > > Thanks in advance > > John > > > John E Titterton BSc(Eng) MA FSA > Ashbourne > DE6 1SH > > www.titterton.org.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Could John Corner have been a soldier and just not available to marry after the calling of the first set of banns? From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann McDonald via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:46 PM Subject: [G] Banns Repeated > Does anyone know how long Banns were valid for? > > Banns for John Corner and Elizabeth Lee were read on three Sundays > from 25 April 1802 at St Anne's Soho, but there was no marriage. They > were read again on the three Sundays from 25 December 1803, again at > St Anne's, and the couple married there on 15 January 1804. > > There are too many Elizabeth Lees born in Westminster for me to work > out whether or not she was underage which could have been an > impediment the first time. > > Did the marriage have to take place within a certain period of time > following the reading hence them being called again? > > Ann McDonald > Corner ONS > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Whoops sorry wrong Murphy Malcolm 5514 -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Sprake via Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:50 PM To: Jim Isard ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Finding a grave, Loughborough RD 1941 Has his birth was registered in Market Harborough it might be a good place to start and look there for his resting place. Malcolm 5514 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Isard via Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 9:24 PM To: john titterton ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Finding a grave, Loughborough RD 1941 You don't become a Catholic until you were baptised Jim Isard Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jun 2016, at 20:52, john titterton via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some lines of enquiry I can follow to try and find the > burial place of a baby who was my first cousin? (He died before I was > born.) My mother's sister Joan Hales married John J Murphy in Dec quarter > of 1939. They had three sons born in the UK and then emigrated to Canada > where three further children were born. The eldest of the native > Canadians, > Marjorie, is visiting later this year and apart from seeking out where her > parents lived in the UK would like to find the grave of her brother > Patrick. > > Patrick J Murphey was born in December quarter 1941 and died in the same > quarter. His death is registered as Loughborough 7a 261. ( His birth is > Loughborough 7a 304.) His two UK born brothers were born in Derbyshire > and > that is where we though he was born so Loughborough is a bit of a > surprise. > > One thing I realized as soon as I started to think about this is that the > death/burial can be associated with three different places; > > The location of actual death, e.g. at home or in hospital' > The location of the funeral service - my uncle was RC and my aunt a > staunch > convert so I would expect this to be a local RC church > The place of burial, Church yard or cemetery. > > Add to this the fact that Loughborough RD seems to cover a wide > geographical area including Ashby de la Zouch Barrow upon Soar Billesdon > Blaby Leicester Lutterworth Market Bosworth Melton Mowbray Hinckley > Loughborough, potentially I have a large area to search. > > Can anyone advise me how much the RD codes Loughborough 7a 304 and 7a 261 > can be used to narrow down the area of research. Also are RC churches > likely to have their own grave yards of am I looking at municipal > cemeteries? > > > Thanks in advance > > John > > > John E Titterton BSc(Eng) MA FSA > Ashbourne > DE6 1SH > > www.titterton.org.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Perhaps the below may be of some help, copied from the net. There is a civic cemetery at Northampton Road, Little Bowden on the edge of Market Harborough. For records of this cemetery it is suggested that you try Market Harborough District Council, Adam and Eve Street, Market Harborough. The most likely crematorium for people in this area is Kettering Crematorium, East Lodge, Rothwell Road, Kettering NN16 8XE. Malcolm 5514 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Isard via Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 9:24 PM To: john titterton ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Finding a grave, Loughborough RD 1941 You don't become a Catholic until you were baptised Jim Isard Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jun 2016, at 20:52, john titterton via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some lines of enquiry I can follow to try and find the > burial place of a baby who was my first cousin? (He died before I was > born.) My mother's sister Joan Hales married John J Murphy in Dec quarter > of 1939. They had three sons born in the UK and then emigrated to Canada > where three further children were born. The eldest of the native > Canadians, > Marjorie, is visiting later this year and apart from seeking out where her > parents lived in the UK would like to find the grave of her brother > Patrick. > > Patrick J Murphey was born in December quarter 1941 and died in the same > quarter. His death is registered as Loughborough 7a 261. ( His birth is > Loughborough 7a 304.) His two UK born brothers were born in Derbyshire > and > that is where we though he was born so Loughborough is a bit of a > surprise. > > One thing I realized as soon as I started to think about this is that the > death/burial can be associated with three different places; > > The location of actual death, e.g. at home or in hospital' > The location of the funeral service - my uncle was RC and my aunt a > staunch > convert so I would expect this to be a local RC church > The place of burial, Church yard or cemetery. > > Add to this the fact that Loughborough RD seems to cover a wide > geographical area including Ashby de la Zouch Barrow upon Soar Billesdon > Blaby Leicester Lutterworth Market Bosworth Melton Mowbray Hinckley > Loughborough, potentially I have a large area to search. > > Can anyone advise me how much the RD codes Loughborough 7a 304 and 7a 261 > can be used to narrow down the area of research. Also are RC churches > likely to have their own grave yards of am I looking at municipal > cemeteries? > > > Thanks in advance > > John > > > John E Titterton BSc(Eng) MA FSA > Ashbourne > DE6 1SH > > www.titterton.org.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Has his birth was registered in Market Harborough it might be a good place to start and look there for his resting place. Malcolm 5514 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Isard via Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 9:24 PM To: john titterton ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [G] Finding a grave, Loughborough RD 1941 You don't become a Catholic until you were baptised Jim Isard Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jun 2016, at 20:52, john titterton via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some lines of enquiry I can follow to try and find the > burial place of a baby who was my first cousin? (He died before I was > born.) My mother's sister Joan Hales married John J Murphy in Dec quarter > of 1939. They had three sons born in the UK and then emigrated to Canada > where three further children were born. The eldest of the native > Canadians, > Marjorie, is visiting later this year and apart from seeking out where her > parents lived in the UK would like to find the grave of her brother > Patrick. > > Patrick J Murphey was born in December quarter 1941 and died in the same > quarter. His death is registered as Loughborough 7a 261. ( His birth is > Loughborough 7a 304.) His two UK born brothers were born in Derbyshire > and > that is where we though he was born so Loughborough is a bit of a > surprise. > > One thing I realized as soon as I started to think about this is that the > death/burial can be associated with three different places; > > The location of actual death, e.g. at home or in hospital' > The location of the funeral service - my uncle was RC and my aunt a > staunch > convert so I would expect this to be a local RC church > The place of burial, Church yard or cemetery. > > Add to this the fact that Loughborough RD seems to cover a wide > geographical area including Ashby de la Zouch Barrow upon Soar Billesdon > Blaby Leicester Lutterworth Market Bosworth Melton Mowbray Hinckley > Loughborough, potentially I have a large area to search. > > Can anyone advise me how much the RD codes Loughborough 7a 304 and 7a 261 > can be used to narrow down the area of research. Also are RC churches > likely to have their own grave yards of am I looking at municipal > cemeteries? > > > Thanks in advance > > John > > > John E Titterton BSc(Eng) MA FSA > Ashbourne > DE6 1SH > > www.titterton.org.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

You don't become a Catholic until you were baptised Jim Isard Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jun 2016, at 20:52, john titterton via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > Can anyone suggest some lines of enquiry I can follow to try and find the > burial place of a baby who was my first cousin? (He died before I was > born.) My mother's sister Joan Hales married John J Murphy in Dec quarter > of 1939. They had three sons born in the UK and then emigrated to Canada > where three further children were born. The eldest of the native Canadians, > Marjorie, is visiting later this year and apart from seeking out where her > parents lived in the UK would like to find the grave of her brother Patrick. > > Patrick J Murphey was born in December quarter 1941 and died in the same > quarter. His death is registered as Loughborough 7a 261. ( His birth is > Loughborough 7a 304.) His two UK born brothers were born in Derbyshire and > that is where we though he was born so Loughborough is a bit of a surprise. > > One thing I realized as soon as I started to think about this is that the > death/burial can be associated with three different places; > > The location of actual death, e.g. at home or in hospital' > The location of the funeral service - my uncle was RC and my aunt a staunch > convert so I would expect this to be a local RC church > The place of burial, Church yard or cemetery. > > Add to this the fact that Loughborough RD seems to cover a wide > geographical area including Ashby de la Zouch Barrow upon Soar Billesdon > Blaby Leicester Lutterworth Market Bosworth Melton Mowbray Hinckley > Loughborough, potentially I have a large area to search. > > Can anyone advise me how much the RD codes Loughborough 7a 304 and 7a 261 > can be used to narrow down the area of research. Also are RC churches > likely to have their own grave yards of am I looking at municipal > cemeteries? > > > Thanks in advance > > John > > > John E Titterton BSc(Eng) MA FSA > Ashbourne > DE6 1SH > > www.titterton.org.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Can anyone suggest some lines of enquiry I can follow to try and find the burial place of a baby who was my first cousin? (He died before I was born.) My mother's sister Joan Hales married John J Murphy in Dec quarter of 1939. They had three sons born in the UK and then emigrated to Canada where three further children were born. The eldest of the native Canadians, Marjorie, is visiting later this year and apart from seeking out where her parents lived in the UK would like to find the grave of her brother Patrick. Patrick J Murphey was born in December quarter 1941 and died in the same quarter. His death is registered as Loughborough 7a 261. ( His birth is Loughborough 7a 304.) His two UK born brothers were born in Derbyshire and that is where we though he was born so Loughborough is a bit of a surprise. One thing I realized as soon as I started to think about this is that the death/burial can be associated with three different places; The location of actual death, e.g. at home or in hospital' The location of the funeral service - my uncle was RC and my aunt a staunch convert so I would expect this to be a local RC church The place of burial, Church yard or cemetery. Add to this the fact that Loughborough RD seems to cover a wide geographical area including Ashby de la Zouch Barrow upon Soar Billesdon Blaby Leicester Lutterworth Market Bosworth Melton Mowbray Hinckley Loughborough, potentially I have a large area to search. Can anyone advise me how much the RD codes Loughborough 7a 304 and 7a 261 can be used to narrow down the area of research. Also are RC churches likely to have their own grave yards of am I looking at municipal cemeteries? Thanks in advance John John E Titterton BSc(Eng) MA FSA Ashbourne DE6 1SH www.titterton.org.uk

I usually recommend the ISOGG Wiki, at http://isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page You'll find a link to Beginners Guides to Genetic Genealogy, as well as to lists of books, journals, videos etc, on the Home Page. Best wishes Barbara Griffiths 4004 Parry ONS On 11 June 2016 at 17:31, Corinne Curtis via <[email protected]> wrote: > I have someone in my ONS who is writing a SINNOTT history and wants to > include a chapter about how DNA can help link families. Has anyone > already done this or can suggest books or articles for him to read or > to link to that give a good lay understanding? > > Corinne Curtis > #5579 > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Corinne I suggest you talk to GOON member Debbie Kennett as she is extremely knowledgeable about DNA research. Carol Gill ONS Twelftree/Twelvetrees Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Corinne Curtis via Sent: 11 June 2016 17:31 To: [email protected] Subject: [G] writing about DNA studies (in family history book) I have someone in my ONS who is writing a SINNOTT history and wants to include a chapter about how DNA can help link families. Has anyone already done this or can suggest books or articles for him to read or to link to that give a good lay understanding? Corinne Curtis #5579 _____________________________________________ RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have someone in my ONS who is writing a SINNOTT history and wants to include a chapter about how DNA can help link families. Has anyone already done this or can suggest books or articles for him to read or to link to that give a good lay understanding? Corinne Curtis #5579

Problem solved. Thank you all for your input. I have tried many different methods over the last couple of days, and finally I think I have a system I can work with. I will keep all my trees in separate files in FTM. With help and suggestions from Russ and others, I can then use a Custom Report with Filters to export a list to Excel. Each tree list can then be combined in one Excel table and manipulated whichever way I like. No steep learning curves, and most of the work already done! Thanks again - Ron Lomax

Ron & Meryl If no one has already mentioned this - Have you tried FTM 'Custom report'? Wenda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 10 June 2016 08:00 To: [email protected] Subject: GOONS Digest, Vol 11, Issue 248 Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 19:19:47 +0100 From: "Merryl Wells" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G] FTM/Organisation Advice Needed Please To: "Ron Lomax" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I've been playing with my FTM to see if there is any way of adding locations to dates in an index and the only thing I came up with is Maps. This shows me a map of USA - not where many of my ONS feature, need one primarily for England and Wales - is that possible? From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: [email protected] GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lomax via" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 10:48 AM Subject: [G] FTM/Organisation Advice Needed Please > Hello All, > > I am relatively new to the concept of a one name study, but have been > an amateur genealogist for many years. I would like to pick people's > brains concerning how to organise and record the study. According to > the WIKI, the most favoured family tree software is FTM, which I also > use. I have upwards of forty sourced family trees. If I keep them in > separate FTM files, then finding someone is a nightmare, as is > checking for duplicates which may link two trees. If I merge all the > trees into one FTM file, (some 7000 people), it is almost impossible > to locate a particular person, even with birth and death years, due to > the 19th century spawning hundreds of Williams, James', Johns and > Charles'. I have to use trial and error, and if I do not have either a > definite birth or death date, then I may go through each one and not > know whether I have him recorded or not. FTM does not give me the > option of showing places in the index. I thought of using the FTM > Person ID with a prefix representing the tree the person comes from, > but this is overwritten if you merge all the trees. There is no report > within FTM which shows BMD dates AND place of birth/death, so I cannot > export a list from each tree and combine them in an Excel table. I > cannot help feeling that, if there are many people using FTM, I am > either missing something or expecting too much. > I have considered switching from FTM, but I like the interface better > than either Legacy or RM, and would prefer to stick with it if I can > find a way round my issues. Has anyone else found a solution to this > problem, or have I to bite the bullet and use more appropriate > software? Any advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks > > Ron Lomax > > > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb lists - surnames, regions, software, etc: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:34:02 +0100 From: Christine Usher <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G] FTM/Organisation Advice Needed Please To: Ron Lomax <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm similar stage to you, I have my family trees on ancestry, I have also started building up excel spreadsheets which have "events" bmd and census mostly, and trying to work out way of checking off who in the excel ss relate to people in the family trees. My one name study is in the miniscule category by size, so lots of it I can do by memory, for example I have established a direct relationship with everyone called Isaac gilhome ever recorded, but I have another significant family of gilhome so where I have not been able to prove a relationship, it is only inferred by geographical closeness. When I started with paper records, I tried to give everyone a Code based on a generation, so I was m1, my parents were L1 &2 but that didn't seem to help Chris U

Hello All, ..... I have been doing my family history and a one-name-study of the HANWELL surname since my Father died in 1966, when I took over his genealogy work which he had started in the 1930s. Needless to say, his and my early work pre-dated all family history computer programs. In the early days of personal computers, I acquired a Wang Classic computer, with a hard-drive which would not hold much more that a Wang Word Processing text program and a Lotus 123 (version one) spreadsheet program. I copied my family trees to Lotus 123 and had to keep all my own data on unreliable 5.1/4 inch floppy discs, because the computer's hard drive was too small for data storage. Some of my trees soon outgrew the 746 kb disc memory size and I installed a 3.1/2 inch floppy disc drive into the computer. 3.1/2" floppy discs had a whopping 1.44 mb capacity, allowing me to store larger family trees. When Lotus 123 version 3 arrived, I upgraded my Computer to a Wang 386, which allowed me to use a mouse - FABULOUS - no more need to have to press three keys together to use Lotus features! I was also able to install Windows 3.1 and get internet access via a modem WOW! Later still, I transferred my data to Microsoft Excel, to make it easy to share with friends and family across the world, as Microsoft Office was becoming very common. Even Microsoft Excel ran out of space for my larger trees with its 256 column width limit and I had to wait until 2007, when Microsoft increased the number of columns more than ten-fold. Even then I could not share it and therefore avoided using it, until more people updated their Microsoft Office and were able to read the 2007 version. ..... The point which I am making is that I still keep all of my family trees and genealogical records on Microsoft Excel spreadsheets, which I can send around the world to Genealogists and non-genealogists alike. Recipients do not have to have special genealogical programs to read them. Excel is excellent, in that additional information (text, photographs, calculations etc) can be stored off the main spreadsheet and you only have to click on a square on the spreadsheet, to be able to view that information. The square can be made to look like a button adjacent to the name or event on the spreadsheet, or it can be the square on the spreadsheet on which the name or event is recorded. The user has the choice. ..... Excel is a great system and has the massive advantage over genealogy programs in that marriage details (date, place etc) can be shown on the actual tree. Genealogical programs force me to do what the programs want me to do, whereas a Microsoft Excel workbook and its spreadsheets are completely flexible. The only downside is that genealogy websites lack the ability to upload Microsoft Excel spreadsheets. It would be the icing on the cake if they would do so. I have so much data on the HANWELL family trees, that I cannot transcribe it all onto website records and I usually just transcribe my own simple HANWELL direct line ancestral chart and little more. It is a great shame that genealogical websites are not more flexible and do not cater for Excel. Regards, Adrian. ---------- ********** ---------- Adrian Hanwell. [email protected] ---------- ********** ---------- -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 10:48:47 +0100 From: Ron Lomax [[email protected]] Subject: FTM/Organisation Advice Needed Please To: Goons [[email protected]] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hello All, I am relatively new to the concept of a one name study, but have been an amateur genealogist for many years. I would like to pick people's brains concerning how to organise and record the study. According to the WIKI, the most favoured family tree software is FTM, which I also use. I have upwards of forty sourced family trees. If I keep them in separate FTM files, then finding someone is a nightmare, as is checking for duplicates which may link two trees. If I merge all the trees into one FTM file, (some 7000 people), it is almost impossible to locate a particular person, even with birth and death years, due to the 19th century spawning hundreds of Williams, James', Johns and Charles'. I have to use trial and error, and if I do not have either a definite birth or death date, then I may go through each one and not know whether I have him recorded or not. FTM does not give me the option of showing places in the index. I thought of using the FTM Person ID with a prefix representing the tree the person comes from, but this is overwritten if you merge all the trees. There is no report within FTM which shows BMD dates AND place of birth/death, so I cannot export a list from each tree and combine them in an Excel table. I cannot help feeling that, if there are many people using FTM, I am either missing something or expecting too much. I have considered switching from FTM, but I like the interface better than either Legacy or RM, and would prefer to stick with it if I can find a way round my issues. Has anyone else found a solution to this problem, or have I to bite the bullet and use more appropriate software? Any advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks Ron Lomax