On 14 March 2017 at 04:07, Tony <mingay@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > Hi All, > I have come across a problem which I hope someone can solve; in a transcript of the Statuary Register of Scotland of the marriage of a William Douglas MINGAY which is said to have taken place in recent times it gives the bride as Deborah Ann SWANSON but then adds three other males all with given names of William Douglas but each with a different surname, viz GARDNER, NARRIE, WESTWOOD. At first I thought that they might have been the names of her previous husbands, as has occurred in other entries, but this I doubt because of her age, even gave some thought that they might be witnesses but there is no evidence to support that idea. The idea that the groom has changed his surname several times also sprung to mind, if so why? > So what else can be the explanation? Maybe that someone more familiar with those Registers could offer a suggested reason behind this puzzle of mine. > Regards Tony. > Anthony John Mingay > Member of the Guild of One Name Studies, 1985 > (once of Kent & Suffolk now in NZ but still researching the surname MINGAY and its variants Worldwide. Tony the names might be changes to the male name either through adoption or common usage. I have several examples in my own family and that of my husband whereby a parental remarriage resulted in the child either being adopted by the mother's new spouse or by changing the surname through common usage following a remarriage. I have an example on my maternal line in the early 1960's in England. My husband has two examples, one if the early 1970's in England and another in the same time frame in Scotland. Both of these were formal adoptions by the mother's second spouse. Regards Julie Goucher

Teresa, can you clarify which article you are referring to and where it is located, please. It looks as if the link Peter referred to has been taken down again, but when I read it earlier, I couldn't find any link to digitised wills :-( Ken On 14 March 2017 at 00:12, Teresa Goatham <teresa@goatham.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks, I already have all the probate calendar info. - as I said, looking > at Kew was already on my 'to do' list. I'd started looking for film nos. > too, but I shan't now be needing them or winding film at Kew - the point is > the article says that these films have all been digitalised and can be > viewed at FHCs. (You just need to follow links from a list like the one > here, > https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/517092?availability=Family%20History%20Library, > so you do NOT need to look up the film numbers as you describe. I'll be > browsing thro' images of the film online.) > > Good to know it doesn't take too long with film, I don't know what the > internet speed is at the nearest FHC but hopefully I'll be able to get to > the right one without it taking too long. > > I hadn't realised original registers might be at the local record offices - > must enquire. Not so convenient, but worth trying for post 1925 wills. > > Teresa > > > > On 13/03/2017 21:00, Polly Rubery wrote: >> >> Teresa wrote: >> >>>> I'm not sure how long >> >> browsing through a film to find one will take; I guess it will be >> quicker online than on film.<< >> >> Before you go do a search on Ancestry in the National Probate Calendars >> (Index). >> >> You need the information: >> >> Place (District Probate Registry or PPR-London) of Probate, Date of >> Probate, >> Surname, Forename >> >> You then need to find the film which covers the correct DPR and date. >> Then >> you will find that the probates are arranged by Date of Probate, and then >> in >> name order on that date. Other than the time spent winding film it >> doesn't >> take much time at all. >> >> Many of the original registers (up to around 1940) can be found in the >> local >> Record Offices which the DPR was in - so for example Worcester is at The >> Hive in Worcester, and The Library of Birmingham has those proved by the >> B'ham DPR. Unfortunately the Hereford DPR closed in 1928, and the >> registers >> are at the National Library of Wales..... >> HTH >> Polly >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? >> http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Tony, I am in the Scotland's People Hub in Inverness today, so I will have a look at the image for you and let you know what I find! Regards, Gordon J Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Tony Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:07 AM To: GOONS Forum Subject: [G] Puzzled Hi All, I have come across a problem which I hope someone can solve; in a transcript of the Statuary Register of Scotland of the marriage of a William Douglas MINGAY which is said to have taken place in recent times it gives the bride as Deborah Ann SWANSON but then adds three other males all with given names of William Douglas but each with a different surname, viz GARDNER, NARRIE, WESTWOOD. At first I thought that they might have been the names of her previous husbands, as has occurred in other entries, but this I doubt because of her age, even gave some thought that they might be witnesses but there is no evidence to support that idea. The idea that the groom has changed his surname several times also sprung to mind, if so why? So what else can be the explanation? Maybe that someone more familiar with those Registers could offer a suggested reason behind this puzzle of mine. Regards Tony. Anthony John Mingay Member of the Guild of One Name Studies, 1985 (once of Kent & Suffolk now in NZ but still researching the surname MINGAY and its variants Worldwide. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It looks like they have removed this second link, interesting. Maria Robinson 6393 Belcher, Los and Youle Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Peter Armstrong<mailto:godsland@one-name.org> Sent: 13 March 2017 13:56 To: GOONS-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:GOONS-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [G] London Family History Centre - more news The news from the London FHC about the availability of microfilms (which had been removed yesterday) has been replaced by an updated notice today http://londonfamilyhistory.org/news-concerning-the-london-familysearch-centre/ Altogether it seems that the facilities are going to be very much reduced for the FHC at Kew for the immediate future. They also now seem to be calling it the London FamilySearch Centre! Peter Armstrong _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tony Without seeing the certificate it is almost impossibe to say what is going on here, but I do have a similar thing amongst my R records, but this time a birth in E&W, where the father has four possible surnames given. From the research I have done into trying to sort this out it appears that they are his birth name and then the names he has been known by as his mother married a succession of husbands after his birth. As you say this is in "modern times" it's possible that there is something similar going on here, but as I say without seeing the actual certificate there is no way to be sure. Polly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <mingay@xtra.co.nz> To: "GOONS Forum" <GOONS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:07 AM Subject: [G] Puzzled Hi All, I have come across a problem which I hope someone can solve; in a transcript of the Statuary Register of Scotland of the marriage of a William Douglas MINGAY which is said to have taken place in recent times it gives the bride as Deborah Ann SWANSON but then adds three other males all with given names of William Douglas but each with a different surname, viz GARDNER, NARRIE, WESTWOOD. At first I thought that they might have been the names of her previous husbands, as has occurred in other entries, but this I doubt because of her age, even gave some thought that they might be witnesses but there is no evidence to support that idea. The idea that the groom has changed his surname several times also sprung to mind, if so why? So what else can be the explanation? Maybe that someone more familiar with those Registers could offer a suggested reason behind this puzzle of mine. Regards Tony. Anthony John Mingay Member of the Guild of One Name Studies, 1985 (once of Kent & Suffolk now in NZ but still researching the surname MINGAY and its variants Worldwide. _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Debbie - I'm on the MWP list but it doesn't include variants. Andy.

Thanks, I already have all the probate calendar info. - as I said, looking at Kew was already on my 'to do' list. I'd started looking for film nos. too, but I shan't now be needing them or winding film at Kew - the point is the article says that these films have all been digitalised and can be viewed at FHCs. (You just need to follow links from a list like the one here, https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/517092?availability=Family%20History%20Library, so you do NOT need to look up the film numbers as you describe. I'll be browsing thro' images of the film online.) Good to know it doesn't take too long with film, I don't know what the internet speed is at the nearest FHC but hopefully I'll be able to get to the right one without it taking too long. I hadn't realised original registers might be at the local record offices - must enquire. Not so convenient, but worth trying for post 1925 wills. Teresa On 13/03/2017 21:00, Polly Rubery wrote: > Teresa wrote: > >>> I'm not sure how long > browsing through a film to find one will take; I guess it will be > quicker online than on film.<< > > Before you go do a search on Ancestry in the National Probate Calendars > (Index). > > You need the information: > > Place (District Probate Registry or PPR-London) of Probate, Date of Probate, > Surname, Forename > > You then need to find the film which covers the correct DPR and date. Then > you will find that the probates are arranged by Date of Probate, and then in > name order on that date. Other than the time spent winding film it doesn't > take much time at all. > > Many of the original registers (up to around 1940) can be found in the local > Record Offices which the DPR was in - so for example Worcester is at The > Hive in Worcester, and The Library of Birmingham has those proved by the > B'ham DPR. Unfortunately the Hereford DPR closed in 1928, and the registers > are at the National Library of Wales..... > HTH > Polly > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

We quoted from the hotel website/supplied information. If anyone takes issue with the description we will refer to the hotel management! Alan Moorhouseconference-booking@one-name.org  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Adrian Abbott <adrabbott@gmail.com> Date: 13/03/2017 22:23 (GMT+00:00) To: GOONS <GOONS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [G] Annual Conference. Having read the Conference information, and living only two miles from the venue, I can update a piece unintentional of mis-information. I am sure that when the Conference was first set up the hotel did indeed feature in the rolling Hampshire Countryside. Unfortunately, the Eastleigh Borough Council acquiesced in an appalling act of barbarism and the hotel is now surrounded by an enormous building site for 1400 houses, with proposals for a further 900. You have been warned! See you there. Adrian Abbott _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Having read the Conference information, and living only two miles from the venue, I can update a piece unintentional of mis-information. I am sure that when the Conference was first set up the hotel did indeed feature in the rolling Hampshire Countryside. Unfortunately, the Eastleigh Borough Council acquiesced in an appalling act of barbarism and the hotel is now surrounded by an enormous building site for 1400 houses, with proposals for a further 900. You have been warned! See you there. Adrian Abbott

Hi Jane How do you do this please, I'm new to FH and struggling to see how I can export query results/and even create them. I just seem to be walking around in circles :) Regards Sue On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Arthur Coomb <arthur.coomb@btinternet.com> wrote: > Thank you very much for that, Jane. > > Although my prime programme is Roots Magic I do also have Family Historian, > so I will certainly try what you suggest as it could be useful in other > situations. > > Best wishes > > Arthur > > -----Original Message----- > From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+arthur.coomb=btinternet.com@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Jane Taubman > Sent: 13 March 2017 16:39 > To: goons@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G] Gedcom to Excel > > On 27 February 2017 at 12:23, Arthur Coomb <arthur.coomb@btinternet.com> > wrote: >> >> Advice would be appreciated for a suitable programme to transfer data >> from Gedcom to Excel. > > > It might also be worth noting that if you use Family Historian, any > query results can be saved as comma separated files and opened in Excel. > > > -- > Jane. > > Jane Taubman | www.taubman.org.uk > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Teresa wrote: >>I'm not sure how long browsing through a film to find one will take; I guess it will be quicker online than on film.<< Before you go do a search on Ancestry in the National Probate Calendars (Index). You need the information: Place (District Probate Registry or PPR-London) of Probate, Date of Probate, Surname, Forename You then need to find the film which covers the correct DPR and date. Then you will find that the probates are arranged by Date of Probate, and then in name order on that date. Other than the time spent winding film it doesn't take much time at all. Many of the original registers (up to around 1940) can be found in the local Record Offices which the DPR was in - so for example Worcester is at The Hive in Worcester, and The Library of Birmingham has those proved by the B'ham DPR. Unfortunately the Hereford DPR closed in 1928, and the registers are at the National Library of Wales..... HTH Polly

List members - Over the weekend there was a post on the "Place names" thread expressing a strong dissatisfaction with an earlier post, and the statements therein. Within the Guild we have certain guidelines for Guild mailing list posts - at http://one-name.org/rootsweb-mailing-list-faqs/ - which list members agree to follow as part of their joining procedure. Unacceptable posts include: "Messages likely to cause offence, nuisance or anxiety" I've talked to the authors of both posts, and the author of the original post has apologised to me. Both authors have deleted their posts from the archives. I request that we move on from the place names topic - posts have already covered a variety of approaches to place name recording. Thank you! Wendy -- Wendy Archer Guild Mailing List Manager, Guild of One-Name Studies www.one-name.org

Hi Paul No - with declining health, my update is likely a one-off. I'm happy to tell whoever did the newswatch spreadsheet what I did (although they could probably sort it on their own given the MMWP names) Andy. At 12:54 13/03/2017, you wrote: >Andy, > >Are you going to keep it updated? > > >Paul 2627

Thanks for this info. I'm interested to see the wills are now available at any FHC - I think I will be making a booking to use my local FHC soon to browse for some of those 1858-1925 wills I consider £10 too expensive to pay for. I had this as a 'to do' for a future visit to Kew. I'm not sure how long browsing through a film to find one will take; I guess it will be quicker online than on film. I wonder what TNA will do with the space freed up? Sometimes I've found it hard to find space for larger docs in the large doc reading room - I'd be happy if they get more room. Teresa On 13/03/2017 13:43, Peter Armstrong wrote: > The news from the London FHC about the availability of microfilms > (which had been removed yesterday) has been replaced by an updated > notice today > http://londonfamilyhistory.org/news-concerning-the-london-familysearch-centre/ > > Altogether it seems that the facilities are going to be very much > reduced for the FHC at Kew for the immediate future. They also now > seem to be calling it the London FamilySearch Centre! > > Peter Armstrong > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thank you very much for that, Jane. Although my prime programme is Roots Magic I do also have Family Historian, so I will certainly try what you suggest as it could be useful in other situations. Best wishes Arthur -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+arthur.coomb=btinternet.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taubman Sent: 13 March 2017 16:39 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] Gedcom to Excel On 27 February 2017 at 12:23, Arthur Coomb <arthur.coomb@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Advice would be appreciated for a suitable programme to transfer data > from Gedcom to Excel. It might also be worth noting that if you use Family Historian, any query results can be saved as comma separated files and opened in Excel. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.taubman.org.uk _____________________________________________ RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 27 February 2017 at 12:23, Arthur Coomb <arthur.coomb@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Advice would be appreciated for a suitable programme to transfer data from > Gedcom to Excel. It might also be worth noting that if you use Family Historian, any query results can be saved as comma separated files and opened in Excel. -- Jane. Jane Taubman | www.taubman.org.uk

The news from the London FHC about the availability of microfilms (which had been removed yesterday) has been replaced by an updated notice today http://londonfamilyhistory.org/news-concerning-the-london-familysearch-centre/ Altogether it seems that the facilities are going to be very much reduced for the FHC at Kew for the immediate future. They also now seem to be calling it the London FamilySearch Centre! Peter Armstrong

Andy Here's the list of members' websites: http://one-name.org/the-members-websites-project-mwp/members-websites-full-l ist-and-search-page/ Can I suggest that you add your list to the Members' Websites section of the Guild Wiki: http://one-name.org/wiki/guild-wiki/members-websites-project/ In that way anyone will be able to update the list as required. Best wishes Debbie -----Original Message----- From: GOONS [mailto:goons-bounces+debbiekennett=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Micklethwaite Sent: 13 March 2017 9:49 To: goons@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G] MWP list I have now created such a list, invaluable for seeing who has shared entries in the MWP. If anyone wants a copy, let me know. Andy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Andy, Are you going to keep it updated? Paul 2627 On 13/3/17 09:49 AM, Andy Micklethwaite wrote: > I have now created such a list, invaluable for seeing who has shared entries in the MWP. If anyone wants a copy, let me know. > > Andy > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > On 10 March I wrote: > > I know there's a list of MWP sites on the MWP, but it doesn't have variants. I know there's a list of names and variants (although I can't remember exactly where I downloaded it from - newswatch comes to mind!) > > Has anyone combined the 2 lists? > > Andy. > > _____________________________________________ > > RootsWeb Surname List - are your interests there? > http://rsl.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GOONS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have now created such a list, invaluable for seeing who has shared entries in the MWP. If anyone wants a copy, let me know. Andy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On 10 March I wrote: I know there's a list of MWP sites on the MWP, but it doesn't have variants. I know there's a list of names and variants (although I can't remember exactly where I downloaded it from - newswatch comes to mind!) Has anyone combined the 2 lists? Andy.