This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kIZ.2ACEB/1113.1 Message Board Post: Bridgett- I have no photos but research GOADS everywhere. Do you know Ella Mae Goad's parents or where they lived or where she was born ? Elza Perkins died at El Reno, Oklahoma but was from Texas at one time. There was no such thing as a photo until the 1850s. Before that all were painted portraits -- too expensive for most people. --- Ken.