Paul It looks as if this is Charlotte in 1841 census but with the ages and no relationships in 41 census. Could James be an older brother with wife and child, and 2 of James's sister Charlotte and Ann. Working on this assumption the IGI have James' christening in 1809 to a Stephen and Elizth. (Elizabeth) There is also another children to them Elizabeth ch 1811, Joseph 1807 all at Down Ampney 41 census Name Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original census image -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAYWARD, James M 30 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Maria F 20 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Charlotte F 13 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Ann F 10 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Stephen M 1 Gloucestershire VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 354 Folio: 10 Page: 15 Registration District: Cirencester Sub District: Fairford EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Down Ampney Municipal Borough: Address: Down Ampney, Down Ampney Another senario could be that Maria is not James's wife but another sibling and Stephen is hers or a nephew. Sorry I do not have the 51 census to follow these possibilities. But looks like child named after his grandfather! Oddly Stephen and Elizabeth are still alive living in Down Anpmey Census -------------------------------------------------------------------- HAYWARD, Stephen M 52 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Elizabeth F 50 Gloucestershire VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 354 Folio: 11 Page: 16 Registration District: Cirencester Sub District: Fairford EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Down Ampney Municipal Borough: Address: Down Ampney, Down Ampney Sorry this does not prove Charlottes' parents but hope it gives you something to progress from. There is an outside chance that James is her father and maria is a second wife. Regards Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hansford" <paul@hansford11.fsnet.co.uk> To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ENG-GLS-CIRENCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:52 PM Subject: [GLS] CHARLOTTE HAYWARD - Down Ampney > Dear All > Could anyone help me find the parents of Charlotte Hayward born about 1828 > in Down Ampney please. > Charlotte married Joseph Messenger of Latton in 1849. > Thank you. > Regards > Paul > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And this looks like James and family in the 1851 and 61 census records of Down Ampney: HO107/1968, folio 589, pages 4/5 James HAYWARD Head Mar 42 Sawyer Gloshre Down Ampney Maria do Wife Mar 33 do do Stephen do Son 10 Ag Lab do do Elizabeth do Daur 9 Scholar do do James do Son 8 do do do George do Son 6 do do do Caroline do Daur 4 do do John do Son 3 do do 1861 census of Down Ampney RG9/1784, folio 42/3, pages 4/5 James HAYWARD Head Mar 52 Sawyer Gloucestershire Down Ampney Maria do Wife Mar 41 do do Stephen do Son Un 20 Ag Lab do do James do Son Un 19 do do do George do Son Un 16 do do do Caroline do Daur 14 Scholar do do John do Son 13 do do do Mary Ann do Daur 7 do do do The record above this one at The Lodge shows a Joseph HAYWARD, aged 54, Gardener, born Down Ampney, wife Jane, 56, born Cornwall and children Ann aged 21 Dressmaker, Fanny aged 16 both born Down Ampney and niece Catherine HAYWARD, aged 8, Scholar, born Somerset, Bath. Perhaps they are connected??? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret J. Muntz" <muntz@hunterlink.net.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] CHARLOTTE HAYWARD - Down Ampney > Paul > It looks as if this is Charlotte in 1841 census but with the ages and no > relationships in 41 census. Could James be an older brother with wife and > child, and 2 of James's sister Charlotte and Ann. Working on this > assumption > the IGI have James' christening in 1809 to a Stephen and Elizth. > (Elizabeth) > There is also another children to them Elizabeth ch 1811, Joseph 1807 all > at > Down Ampney > 41 census > Name Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original > census > image > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > HAYWARD, James M 30 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Maria F 20 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Charlotte F 13 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Ann F 10 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Stephen M 1 Gloucestershire VIEW > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > RG number: > HO107 Piece: > 354 Folio: > 10 Page: > 15 > > Registration District: > Cirencester Sub District: > Fairford EnumerationDistrict: > Ecclesiastical Parish: > > > Civil Parish: > Down Ampney Municipal Borough: > Address: > Down Ampney, Down Ampney > > Another senario could be that Maria is not James's wife but another > sibling and Stephen is hers or a nephew. > Sorry I do not have the 51 census to follow these possibilities. > But looks like child named after his grandfather! > Oddly Stephen and Elizabeth are still alive living in Down Anpmey > Census > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > HAYWARD, Stephen M 52 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Elizabeth F 50 Gloucestershire VIEW > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > RG number: > HO107 Piece: > 354 Folio: > 11 Page: > 16 > > Registration District: > Cirencester Sub District: > Fairford EnumerationDistrict: > Ecclesiastical Parish: > > > Civil Parish: > Down Ampney Municipal Borough: > Address: > Down Ampney, Down Ampney > > Sorry this does not prove Charlottes' parents but hope it gives > you something to progress from. > There is an outside chance that James is her father and maria > is > a second wife. > Regards > Marg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hansford" <paul@hansford11.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <ENG-GLS-CIRENCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:52 PM > Subject: [GLS] CHARLOTTE HAYWARD - Down Ampney > > >> Dear All >> Could anyone help me find the parents of Charlotte Hayward born about >> 1828 >> in Down Ampney please. >> Charlotte married Joseph Messenger of Latton in 1849. >> Thank you. >> Regards >> Paul >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/752 - Release Date: > 08/04/2007 20:34 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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