Hi Elizabeth, Thank you very much for your help. Eliza and Sarah are sisters of John ABSALOM who had the grocers shop in Cheltenham. When John went to Australia in March 1891, also on board was John ABSALOM aged 22. When this yough fellow married in South Australia in 1895, he gave his age as 24, and his name as John Allen ABSALOM. He said his father's name was was Austin ABSALOM. My team of researchers have never found either in any English records. So who was his father and who was his mother? I have spent hours trying find out. I am now pursuing any evidence that Eliza, Sarah or John were in Gloucestershire 1868-71. I have a possible mother and a possible father. But I need more evidence! Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Beckers" <sky2dreamer@yahoo.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] (no subject) > Rhonda, I didn't find a John but here are a Eliza and a Sarah. hope this > helps. > Name: Eliza Absalom Estimated birth year: abt 1826 > Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec > Age at Death: 69 District: Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire > Volume: 6a Page: 262 > Name: Sarah Absalom Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Year > of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at > Death: 55 District: Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire Volume: > 6a Page: 301 > > Rhoda Winger <rhodawinger@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > Could some dear soul help me please? > > I am trying to solve a mystery! > > I am searching for Eliza, Sarah or John ABSALOM, especially in Cheltenham > 1868-71or any other ABSALOMs. I would also like to find out when John > ABSALOM opened his grocers shop at 22 Winchcomb St., Cheltenham. > > Rhoda Queensland, Australia > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. >

Rhoda I'm not sure if this helps but in 1891 census in St John, Devises, Wiltshire there is this family Mary Simpson age 65 occupations 'Grocer in Partnership' Hannah M Simpson age 31 daughter John Knight Absalom age 9 born Cheltenham in Gloucestershire grandson obviously not the John you are looking for but born in the right place and his grandmother is a grocer. Who is her partner I wonder Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhoda Winger" <rhodawinger@iprimus.com.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: [GLS] Cheltenham Records 1868-71 > Hi Elizabeth, > > Thank you very much for your help. > > Eliza and Sarah are sisters of John ABSALOM who had the grocers shop in > Cheltenham. > > When John went to Australia in March 1891, also on board was John ABSALOM > aged 22. When this yough fellow married in South Australia in 1895, he > gave > his age as 24, and his name as John Allen ABSALOM. He said his father's > name was was Austin ABSALOM. My team of researchers have never found > either in any English records. So who was his father and who was his > mother? I have spent hours trying find out. I am now pursuing any > evidence that Eliza, Sarah or John were in Gloucestershire 1868-71. I > have > a possible mother and a possible father. But I need more evidence! > > Rhoda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth Beckers" <sky2dreamer@yahoo.com> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [GLS] (no subject) > > >> Rhonda, I didn't find a John but here are a Eliza and a Sarah. hope this >> helps. >> Name: Eliza Absalom Estimated birth year: abt 1826 >> Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec >> Age at Death: 69 District: Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire >> Volume: 6a Page: 262 >> Name: Sarah Absalom Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Year >> of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at >> Death: 55 District: Cheltenham County: Gloucestershire >> Volume: >> 6a Page: 301 >> >> Rhoda Winger <rhodawinger@iprimus.com.au> wrote: >> Could some dear soul help me please? >> >> I am trying to solve a mystery! >> >> I am searching for Eliza, Sarah or John ABSALOM, especially in Cheltenham >> 1868-71or any other ABSALOMs. I would also like to find out when John >> ABSALOM opened his grocers shop at 22 Winchcomb St., Cheltenham. >> >> Rhoda Queensland, Australia >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Need Mail bonding? >> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. >> > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Whilst at work today [Chelt. Ref Library] I looked at some old trade directories and found that the 22 Winchcombe Street property mentioned as the shop of J Absolem was in ownership/tenure of Alfred Trusted between 1859-77 and he was a grocer/tea dealer. There is a gap in the directories held and J Absolems first mention is in 1880, and was there for 10 years his last listing appearing in 1890. Jacksons took over, and in another book there is a photo of the shop, named as Jacksons, on the corner with Albion Street, in a state of disrepair. I could do a copy if wanted. I didn't find any more Absolems listed. HTHs Lynne >> >> Eliza and Sarah are sisters of John ABSALOM who had the grocers shop in >> Cheltenham. >> >> When John went to Australia in March 1891, also on board was John ABSALOM >> aged 22. When this yough fellow married in South Australia in 1895, he >> gave >> his age as 24, and his name as John Allen ABSALOM. He said his father's >> name was was Austin ABSALOM. My team of researchers have never found >> either in any English records. So who was his father and who was his >> mother? I have spent hours trying find out. I am now pursuing any >> evidence that Eliza, Sarah or John were in Gloucestershire 1868-71. I >> have >> a possible mother and a possible father. But I need more evidence! >> >> Rhoda >> >>

Whilst at work today [Chelt. Ref Library] I looked at some old trade directories and found that the 22 Winchcombe Street property mentioned as the shop of J Absolem was in ownership/tenure of Alfred Trusted between 1859-77 and he was a grocer/tea dealer. There is a gap in the directories held and J Absolems first mention is in 1880, and was there for 10 years his last listing appearing in 1890. Jacksons took over, and in another book there is a photo of the shop, named as Jacksons, on the corner with Albion Street, in a state of disrepair. I could do a copy if wanted. I didn't find any more Absolems listed. HTHs Lynne >> >> Eliza and Sarah are sisters of John ABSALOM who had the grocers shop in >> Cheltenham. >> >> When John went to Australia in March 1891, also on board was John ABSALOM >> aged 22. When this yough fellow married in South Australia in 1895, he >> gave >> his age as 24, and his name as John Allen ABSALOM. He said his father's >> name was was Austin ABSALOM. My team of researchers have never found >> either in any English records. So who was his father and who was his >> mother? I have spent hours trying find out. I am now pursuing any >> evidence that Eliza, Sarah or John were in Gloucestershire 1868-71. I >> have >> a possible mother and a possible father. But I need more evidence! >> >> Rhoda >> >>

Thank you, Elizabeth. Yes, I do know of this family. John Knight was the son of John ABSALOM snr who went to Australia in 1891. I do not know who her partner was, but she may have been referring to John absalom, her son-in-law. Her daughter, Hester had died recently. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Hartwell" <hartwell.s@comcast.net> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Cheltenham Records 1868-71 > Rhoda > > I'm not sure if this helps but in 1891 census in St John, Devises, > Wiltshire there is this family > > Mary Simpson age 65 occupations 'Grocer in Partnership' > Hannah M Simpson age 31 daughter > John Knight Absalom age 9 born Cheltenham in Gloucestershire grandson > > obviously not the John you are looking for but born in the right place and > his grandmother is a grocer. Who is her partner I wonder > > Christine