Margery, I think there might have been two people called Francis GILLMAN born in Horsley at about the same time. >From the 1841 Census of Horsley - as they were asked to approximate their ages to the nearest 5 years downwards the first is most likely and Gillian has sent you a transcription of the entry. Francis Gellman abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Horsley Gloucestershire Francis Gillman abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Horsley Gloucestershire There is an adult christening of a Francis Henry GILLMAN s/o Richard & Martha 1 May 1836 at Horsley - see IGI This looks like the marriage of a Francis GILLMAN in 1843 Presumably to the Ann with the multiple choice of surnames: Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%) BENNETT Esther Stroud 11 505 BRINKWORTH Richard Stroud 11 505 CLINCH Alexander Stroud 11 505 EARL Mary Stroud 11 505 GILLMAN Francis Stroud 11 505 HARVEY Elizabeth Stroud 11 505 PARSLOE Ann Stroud 11 505 PARSLOO Ann Stroud 11 505 PARSLOV Ann Stroud 11 505 WHITE Edward Stroud 11 505 A marriage certificate should show Francis's father. But the IGI shows a marriage between Francis Henry GILLMAN and Ann PARSLOW 13 Aug 1843 at Horsley. Both the christening and the marriage are on Batch Numbers P018101 & M018101 There are 7 christenings in Horsley for children of Francis & Ann - the last one being in 1863 so it looks as if the "Joseph" on the 1861 census is an aberration. Have a good look at www.familysearch.org I think you'll find a lot to interest you. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margery Whitham" <margery@whitham.name> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census >I am puzzled by the following:- > > I am looking for a Francis GILLMAN born c1818 in Horsley. I can't > find him in the 1841 census but in 1851 he is aged 33, a sawyer and living > with wife Ann age 27. > In the 1861 there is no Francis but his wife Ann is mentioned with > "Joseph" named as head. > In 1871 Francis pops up again as a widower. > > I wondered if perhaps Francis had died and Ann had remarried (Joseph) by > 1861 but as Francis reappears in 1871 this can't be the case. > > In 1881 Joseph is shown as aged 63 (correct) - same place of birth and > occupation as Francis. > > I have looked at this so many times - am I misreading something? > > If someone could kindly spare a little time to check the above for me I > would be so grateful. > > Margery > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Margery Found this at our resource centre today Francis Gillman married Ann Parsloe St Martin Horsley 1843 Gloucestershire Family History Society will search their marriage indexes for Cheltenham, Cirencester,Gloucester and Stroud see http://www.gfhs.org John Excell ---- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census > Margery, > > I think there might have been two people called Francis GILLMAN born in > Horsley at about the same time. > >>From the 1841 Census of Horsley - as they were asked to approximate their > ages to the nearest 5 years downwards the first is most likely and Gillian > has sent you a transcription of the entry. > > Francis Gellman abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Horsley > Gloucestershire > Francis Gillman abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Horsley > Gloucestershire > > There is an adult christening of a Francis Henry GILLMAN s/o Richard & > Martha 1 May 1836 at > Horsley - see IGI > > This looks like the marriage of a Francis GILLMAN in 1843 > Presumably to the Ann with the multiple choice of surnames: > > Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%) > BENNETT Esther Stroud 11 505 > BRINKWORTH Richard Stroud 11 505 > CLINCH Alexander Stroud 11 505 > EARL Mary Stroud 11 505 > GILLMAN Francis Stroud 11 505 > HARVEY Elizabeth Stroud 11 505 > PARSLOE Ann Stroud 11 505 > PARSLOO Ann Stroud 11 505 > PARSLOV Ann Stroud 11 505 > WHITE Edward Stroud 11 505 > > A marriage certificate should show Francis's father. But the IGI shows a > marriage between Francis Henry GILLMAN and Ann PARSLOW 13 Aug 1843 at > Horsley. > Both the christening and the marriage are on Batch Numbers P018101 & > M018101 > > There are 7 christenings in Horsley for children of Francis & Ann - the > last one being in 1863 so it looks as if the "Joseph" on the 1861 census > is an aberration. > > Have a good look at www.familysearch.org I think you'll find a lot to > interest you. > > Pat > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margery Whitham" <margery@whitham.name> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:25 PM > Subject: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census > > >>I am puzzled by the following:- >> >> I am looking for a Francis GILLMAN born c1818 in Horsley. I can't >> find him in the 1841 census but in 1851 he is aged 33, a sawyer and >> living with wife Ann age 27. >> In the 1861 there is no Francis but his wife Ann is mentioned with >> "Joseph" named as head. >> In 1871 Francis pops up again as a widower. >> >> I wondered if perhaps Francis had died and Ann had remarried (Joseph) by >> 1861 but as Francis reappears in 1871 this can't be the case. >> >> In 1881 Joseph is shown as aged 63 (correct) - same place of birth and >> occupation as Francis. >> >> I have looked at this so many times - am I misreading something? >> >> If someone could kindly spare a little time to check the above for me I >> would be so grateful. >> >> Margery >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >