Hi Listers, I'm looking for any information on John WATHEN, who came to Maryland as an indentured servant to a Hugh THOMAS, in 1670, aboard the ship "Francis and Mary" out of Bristol. The emigrations from England and Wales in the 1600's of indentured servants were part of a settlement chartered by the Lords Baltimore. Those of us researching John WATHEN on this side of the pond have our lineage to John pretty well completed. Now begins the task of finding out John's origins either in England or Wales. Can anyone help? Thank you, Bill WATHEN Florida

Ancestry lists a "Maryland Calendar of Wills"  with a John Wathen,  and the following info.: "  Wathen, John, Chas. Co.,28th Feb., 1704-5; 10th July, 1705. T..."  Further information is not listed yet. --- On Wed, 12/3/08, bill waathen <[email protected]> wrote: From: bill waathen <[email protected]> Subject: [GLS] John WATHEN To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 9:28 AM Hi Listers, I'm looking for any information on John WATHEN, who came to Maryland as an indentured servant to a Hugh THOMAS, in 1670, aboard the ship "Francis and Mary" out of Bristol. The emigrations from England and Wales in the 1600's of indentured servants were part of a settlement chartered by the Lords Baltimore. Those of us researching John WATHEN on this side of the pond have our lineage to John pretty well completed. Now begins the task of finding out John's origins either in England or Wales. Can anyone help? Thank you, Bill WATHEN Florida _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth, For sure that's the guy I'm researching. We pretty much have our lineage on him from his arrival at Port Tobacco, Md., in 1670, indentured to Hugh Thomas for 3-4 years. John's history prior to landing in Md. is still the big mystery that I'm trying to resolve. John was indentured to Hugh Thomas Sept. 10, 1670, and sailed on the Francis and Mary from Bristol, England to Port Tobacco, Md. Where he lived and who his family was in Britain is unknown to me at this time. I've searched the Bristol Records office twice for immigrants opting for servitude in the American colonies for the period, and what I've mentioned here is all that's showing. However, my nose is leading me to the Glamorgan, Wales, area, because that's where Hugh Thomas was from. Wish me luck and I thank you for your input. Have a good'ern, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Beckers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] John WATHEN Ancestry lists a "Maryland Calendar of Wills" with a John Wathen, and the following info.: " Wathen, John, Chas. Co.,28th Feb., 1704-5; 10th July, 1705. T..." Further information is not listed yet. --- On Wed, 12/3/08, bill waathen <[email protected]> wrote: From: bill waathen <[email protected]> Subject: [GLS] John WATHEN To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 9:28 AM Hi Listers, I'm looking for any information on John WATHEN, who came to Maryland as an indentured servant to a Hugh THOMAS, in 1670, aboard the ship "Francis and Mary" out of Bristol. The emigrations from England and Wales in the 1600's of indentured servants were part of a settlement chartered by the Lords Baltimore. Those of us researching John WATHEN on this side of the pond have our lineage to John pretty well completed. Now begins the task of finding out John's origins either in England or Wales. Can anyone help? Thank you, Bill WATHEN Florida _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill, I admire your ambition in setting out to identify a particular Hugh Thomas. That's a very popular name. Is it possible he was just the agent in perhaps Bristol who contracted the labour and sent them to Maryland? I have a then young ancestor (32) who newly widowed left the two children with family (I descend from one of them) and indentured himself in the same way from London for "Virginia or Maryland" (and disappeared) but it is a few decades later than your man. The person he is contracted to is fortunately well-recorded, he lived in London and his brother, Captain Hector MacNeal, Bristol-based, shipped the contractees to North America and the Caribbean. I read that Neal MacNeal's London clerks were lazy and used ditto marks too often so the cargo often went to different places from those apparently specified! (Though presumably as the individual contract specified.) Neal MacNeal must have had a very substantial business apparently founding a gentry family - ref. "Family papers of MacNeal of Tirfergus, Ugadale and Losset". All this MacNeal info through Google Books. Can anyone tell me the essential difference between contracting oneself for four years indentured labour in Maryland 1670 and say a four year contract 2008-2012 to work in, say, a hospital in Saudi Arabia? Are you sure Hugh Thomas was in Maryland? Best wishes David On 5/12/2008, at 6:31 AM, bill waathen wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > > For sure that's the guy I'm researching. We pretty much have our > lineage on > him from his arrival at Port Tobacco, Md., in 1670, indentured to Hugh > Thomas for 3-4 years. John's history prior to landing in Md. is > still the > big mystery that I'm trying to resolve. John was indentured to Hugh > Thomas > Sept. 10, 1670, and sailed on the Francis and Mary from Bristol, > England to > Port Tobacco, Md. Where he lived and who his family was in Britain is > unknown to me at this time. I've searched the Bristol Records > office twice > for immigrants opting for servitude in the American colonies for the > period, > and what I've mentioned here is all that's showing. However, my > nose is > leading me to the Glamorgan, Wales, area, because that's where Hugh > Thomas > was from. Wish me luck and I thank you for your input. > > Have a good'ern, > > Bill