Jenny, I presume you have looked for William Coates in the 1881 Census. If not the entry is as follows William Coates b. Gloucester 1837 Butcher Eliza wife also b. Gloucester Annie b. 1869 Cheltenham Emily b. 1871 Cheltenham William b. 1874 Cheltenham Jane b. 1877 Cheltenham John b. 1879 Cheltenham In 1901 he was still living in the High Street. He was a widower and was living with his widowed daughter Gertrude aged 23 and her two sons Francis aged 3 and frederick aged 9 mths. Gertrude's place of birth is given as Longhope, Glos. Hope this helps Margaret