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    1. [GLS] 2011 "Bunfight" bookings open
    2. Ian Sage
    3. Dear all, After a little discussion on and off different mailing lists, another social and family history discussion meeting will be held this year on October 15th at the Salthouse, Clevedon - the same venue as last year. The Salthouse is easily accessible for those travelling from the north, east or west by car; we can arrive from mid-morning, and lunch will be available from their new menu (to be pre-ordered in due course). For those bringing laptops, we are promised use of a few extension leads and an internet connection. This is always a friendly event and you may even find yourself sitting next to an unknown distant cousin. (I know I have!) All with an interest in family history in the wider region of Bristol and the surrounding counties of Somerset and Gloucestershire are very welcome; if you want to attend or just to be kept informed about the event, please contact me direct atsage_gen@tiscali.co.uk If you cannot attend, but would like to be added to our "absent friends" list, also let me know by email and you can raise a glass with us at 1:00pm UK time. Hoping to see as many of you as possible in October, Ian Sage

    08/09/2011 03:18:38
    1. [GLS] Early SAGEs in Gloucestershire
    2. Ian Sage
    3. Hello all, My SAGE ancestors can be traced with certainty to mid-18th century Yatton, Somerset, then disappear in a haze. In general, the name is highly regionalised in an arc from Bristol through the Somerset coal field down to Wells. Further concentrations of the name occur in East Devon/West Somerset, in the Suffolk/Essex area (probably unrelated to the Somerset families) and a small group in Scotland. However, the earliest reference I have to the name is in 1277, when John SAGE granted 100 solidates of land at "Brickhampton" (Brockhampton?) Gloucs to the recently founded Hailes Abbey. Later, in 1312 John SAGE sold arable, meadow and yard-lands at Lower Swell, Gloucs to Hailes Abbey. This could be a different John, but I guess the balance of probability is that they are at least closely related. In 1327 John SAGE's estate at Lower Swell, Gloucs was assessed for 4s 2d - nearly half the value of the vill. By 1341 I have my first mention of SAGE in Somerset. All this is some 400 years earlier than I am used to researching, and I certainly do not expect to link these records with my own family. But I am trying to understand what Sage families were around at early dates and assess whether these Gloucestershire SAGEs may also have moved to Somerset. So the questions: 1. Is anyone aware of other records relating to the SAGE name at early dates? 2. Are there any scholars on list who can give me advice on searching for the name at this early period? In particular, is there a good approach to try to find out what became of this presumed family? Many thanks for any help or advice, Ian

    08/09/2011 03:49:38
    1. Re: [GLS] Early SAGEs in Gloucestershire
    2. Katherine Hocking
    3. Hi, Try typing in Heraldic Visitations into Google and they may well turn up. Cannot remember which areas are covered and records still in existance. HV records are a bit slow to use but if I remember correctly it is possible to find an index at the very end. Have used it for Welsh Records mostly. Katherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Sage" <ian.sage@tiscali.co.uk> To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:49 AM Subject: [GLS] Early SAGEs in Gloucestershire > Hello all, > > My SAGE ancestors can be traced with certainty to mid-18th century > Yatton, Somerset, then disappear in a haze. In general, the name is > highly regionalised in an arc from Bristol through the Somerset coal > field down to Wells. Further concentrations of the name occur in East > Devon/West Somerset, in the Suffolk/Essex area (probably unrelated to > the Somerset families) and a small group in Scotland. > > However, the earliest reference I have to the name is in 1277, when John > SAGE granted 100 solidates of land at "Brickhampton" (Brockhampton?) > Gloucs to the recently founded Hailes Abbey. > Later, in 1312 John SAGE sold arable, meadow and yard-lands at Lower > Swell, Gloucs to Hailes Abbey. This could be a different John, but I > guess the balance of probability is that they are at least closely > related. > In 1327 John SAGE's estate at Lower Swell, Gloucs was assessed for 4s 2d > - nearly half the value of the vill. > > By 1341 I have my first mention of SAGE in Somerset. > > All this is some 400 years earlier than I am used to researching, and I > certainly do not expect to link these records with my own family. But I > am trying to understand what Sage families were around at early dates > and assess whether these Gloucestershire SAGEs may also have moved to > Somerset. So the questions: > > 1. Is anyone aware of other records relating to the SAGE name at early > dates? > 2. Are there any scholars on list who can give me advice on searching > for the name at this early period? In particular, is there a good > approach to try to find out what became of this presumed family? > > Many thanks for any help or advice, > > Ian > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/09/2011 12:29:32
    1. Re: [GLS] 2011 "Bunfight" bookings open
    2. Eliz Hanebury
    3. OH I so wish - what a great day I am sure it will be <G> Eliz On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Ian Sage <ian.sage@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Dear all, > > After a little discussion on and off different mailing lists, another social and family history discussion meeting will be held this year on October 15th at the Salthouse, Clevedon - the same venue as last year.  The Salthouse is easily accessible for those travelling from the north, east or west by car; we can arrive from mid-morning, and lunch will be available from their new menu (to be pre-ordered in due course). For those bringing laptops, we are promised use of a few extension leads and an internet connection. > > This is always a friendly event and you may even find yourself sitting next to an unknown distant cousin. (I know I have!) All with an interest in family history in the wider region of Bristol and the surrounding counties of Somerset and Gloucestershire are very welcome; if you want to attend or just to be kept informed about the event, please contact me direct atsage_gen@tiscali.co.uk > > If you cannot attend, but would like to be added to our "absent friends" list, also let me know by email and you can raise a glass with us at 1:00pm UK time. > > Hoping to see as many of you as possible in October, > > Ian Sage > >  _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/09/2011 09:17:57