Hello all. In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, having the copyhold. On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can definitely trace. Can anyone help me with the following:- Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a farming community in those days. Why did they marry in Gloucester? Any suggestions welcome! Roger Bailey

Hi Roger I only have access to the transcripts at www.forest-of-dean.net and that, while it lists Mary Drew's residence as Hartpury, gives no residence for Thomas Bayly - you may know if this is a transcription error or not - so is it possible he was not from Hartpury. If Thomas Bayly the church warden is the same man I doubt he would not have been appointed just to establish his residence. There is, however, a Baily family just down the road at Ashleworth that includes a Thomas baptised 1657 a bit old for a first marriage but a second marriage would still be a possibility - just a thought. There was a period during which Forest of dean couples had to go to Gloucester to be married (sometimes the marriage was recorded in their home parish too). If memory serves me correctly it was about this time but I'm sure someone else on the list will be able to be more precise. Regards Colin -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bailey Sent: 29 May 2011 16:49 To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Cc: GlosGen Subject: [GLS] Bayley family in Hartpury Hello all. In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, having the copyhold. On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can definitely trace. Can anyone help me with the following:- Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a farming community in those days. Why did they marry in Gloucester? Any suggestions welcome! Roger Bailey

Hi Are these their children - from the IGI Tho Bayly baptism/christening date: 16 Jun 1704 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Tho Bayly mother's name: Mary William Bayly baptism/christening date: 18 Nov 1716 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Thomas Bayly mother's name: Mary John Bayly baptism/christening date: 01 Mar 1712 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Thomas Bayly mother's name: Mary Mary Bayly baptism/christening date: 12 Dec 1706 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND death date: 21 Jun 1713 father's name: Tho Bayly mother's name: Mary cheers Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Bailey" <rogereb@lineone.net> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Cc: "GlosGen" <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: [GLS] Bayley family in Hartpury > Hello all. > > In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. > His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the > Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and > the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, > having the copyhold. > > On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary > de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both > appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can > definitely trace. > Can anyone help me with the following:- > > Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in > Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" > men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in > Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is > not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next > door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers > will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a > farming community in those days. > > Why did they marry in Gloucester? > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Roger Bailey > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message