Janet, Thanks. Now this is interesting. Perhaps, they weren't Church of England. My family that immigrated to the USA was not Church of England but Primitive Methodist and that may have been because one of the later women marring into the family had a father or grandfather who was a Minister in the Primitive Methodist Church. I did a search of marriage records in Uley and found the given or Christian names of the WALL families were the exact ones that run thru generation after generation of the males in this family. So I am keeping this information and will be collecting Wall family marriages in other parish's close to these area's. When my Wm. Wall died the burial record says Chippenham but he hadn't moved from Biddlestone? I guess that was the parish for Biddlestone which is in Wiltshire but so very close to the border of Glou. Now I remember that the census in Wales for one of his son's noted Chippenham as his birth place even though he lived and was baptized in Biddlestone? We are Baptist now and don't baptize baby's but we do dedicated baby's. I will have to ask Pastor if this is a modern thing to do or was it always done. I will also see if he knows if the church keeps records of births and if so, did they always? I just never though of it like this! This could really hamper research! Thanks so much for you time and your willingness to share with others. You have been really helpful and have saved me lots of time. Janet In a message dated 1/28/2011 4:57:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janet, Just a couple of points: DNA testing is popular in the UK but probably only within certain family history groups. I am a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies where DNA profiling is seen as an important tool when establishing family groups of the same surname, as you hope to do. Many people in the Stroud area were non-conformists. In Horsley Shortwood Baptist Church had a larger congregation than the parish church but some people attended both places of worship. There was also a Quaker Meeting House and another Independent chapel nearby. Up to a point well into the nineteenth century there was a legal requirement that the marriages of non-conformists [but not Quakers] had to take place in the parish church. Actually there are three points; The parish was the body that took responsibility for those living within its bounds. This was the form of local government at that time. The parish overseers changed from year to year and could include anyone of good standing within the parish. A parish rate was collected from householders, agriculturalists and industrialists in order to give money in support of those who had fallen on hard times. There is much more to this topic but I hope this will help a little. Cheers, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 21:47:50 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, Thanks for the information. I will keep it in mind as I check. I am hoping the YDNA results will help too. The only problem with that is that most of the Wall men on the Family Tree DNA Wall project are from early America and haven't been traced back to England. However, if my brother matches my friends Dad, we will know that we are related at some point because she has documented proof to the Stroud Wall line. I wonder if the DNA testing is as popular in England as it seems to be in the US? I should have mentioned that my Wall's were Church of England both in the Parish records for my Wm. Walls birth in Tarlton and much later as an old man alone (as the sons had gone to Wales to work) in Biddlestone as being on Parish relief. Did one have to be a Church of England parishioner to get this? But I will check the Baptist church records. At one point, I ran across a birth to a Wall family where the child was born in the cottage in the meadow, I believe, and the father was a Shepard. Janet In a message dated 1/27/2011 4:23:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janet, at the time of the decline in the woollen industry I doubt that out of work weavers went to America as the American War of Independence had taken place some time previously. However, Australia was being developed as a British colony and welcomed immigrants from the old country at that time. It may be that some out of work weavers turned to agriculture but other industries may have absorbed some of them. For instance in Horsley Isaac HILLIER set up a business manufacturing products from pork at about this time. The mills found other uses such as making walking sticks and substantial thick card. In my own family some were involved in the woolen industry, as weavers and as mill owners but others were butchers, publicans, and brushmakers. Those who worked in the woolen industry tended to stay put but others moved to some relatively distant places: Bath, Bristol, Birmingham and London. There are a number of people named WALL in the Shortwood Baptist Church [Horsley] records. Horsley/Nailsworth is about four miles south of Stroud. Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 20:46:41 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no other Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the 1790's and none on the later census's that I can find. I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to connect to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in the USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's done. There may be a link. We will see. I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to work in the Agriculture business as mine did. I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall families. That is if these records are available! Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. Another, Janet In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janine, Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2011/01/28 11:39, JANETHESKI@aol.com wrote: > Up to a point well into the nineteenth century there was a legal requirement > that the marriages of non-conformists [but not Quakers] had to take place in > the parish church. From 1754 to 1837. Or thereabouts :-) You can can see the changes in the Parish registers. From 1754, witnesses were required. From 1837, Father's names were added. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Nancy, It was some years ago that I found out about the ship being chartered by the Poor Rate contributors. I'll have a look and come back to you.   Jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: Nancy Frey <nfrey@auracom.com> To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 27 January, 2011 18:19:36 Subject: Re: [GLS] ROBINS & DAUNTCEY in Uley (was Name - ULEY) Hi Jeff, I found your Uley information very pertinent as I have ancestors who lived in Uley during that period.  I'd like to be able to put a source to this information.  Do you have a specific book or article that you got this information from? My Thomas ROBINS baptised 1764 in Uley was a carpenter.  He married Margaret CAVE and they baptised children in both Uley & Owlpen..  They seem to have stayed rather than emigrated.  His son James married Charlotte Yewen DAUNCEY and that branch of the family moved to Bristol. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford  & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "J GOULD" <gould93@btinternet.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Name - ULEY Janet, Uley's history is amazing considering its idyllic situation now. In the 1830s Sheppards Mill was opened. It employed a lot of people The business failed after a few years. All the workers were maintained under the Poor Law. The Poor Rate was levied on householders. After a while the rate rose from 6 shillings in the £ to 19 shillings. The householders were going bankrupt. Meanwhile, many of the workers were living under the mill machinery. The remaining householders got together and chartered a ship from Bristol to take the unemployed to the New World. Many towns now wish they had the same solution to their unemployment problem. Jeff _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005:  http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 01/27/2011 04:50 PM, Hugh Kearsey wrote: > Erich, > > The Baptism, post 1800 marriages and burials Index CDs were designed in a > special format that only works with Windows. However, the same information > is also available on the CD in pdf format on the CD, but is not quite as > user friendly. This definitly works with Mac computers and should work > with Linux. > > All other GFHS CDs are in pdf format. > > If you purchase a CD I would be very pleased to hear how you get on with the > CD. > > Hugh Kearsey - Chairman GFHS Hugh, Since the CDs have PDF versions, I shouldn't have any problems. Thanks very much! --Erich Schraer

Hi Janet a few of the Shortwood details seem to have crept in to some sites but most of them are not. Liz Jack and I spent some time transcribing the Burial Book so we both have a copy. I have also transcribed the Members' Books to a certain point. There are several of these books starting from different dates. I also have a copy of the 1811-1815 list of Horsley householders, a list of Horsley Land Tax payments for 1810 and lists of the Horsley and Tetbury Volunteers. Why so many lists, you might ask. Finding the family connections of Baptists living in Horsley is extremely difficult as there are almost no infant baptisms, of my family, in the parish church. It is also good to be able to help other people with their research. Some day the Shortwood Burial Book may be published - but not as yet. Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 23:28:12 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, Do you know if the Shortwood Baptist Church records are on line? Thanks, Janet the message

Hi Janet, Just a couple of points: DNA testing is popular in the UK but probably only within certain family history groups. I am a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies where DNA profiling is seen as an important tool when establishing family groups of the same surname, as you hope to do. Many people in the Stroud area were non-conformists. In Horsley Shortwood Baptist Church had a larger congregation than the parish church but some people attended both places of worship. There was also a Quaker Meeting House and another Independent chapel nearby. Up to a point well into the nineteenth century there was a legal requirement that the marriages of non-conformists [but not Quakers] had to take place in the parish church. Actually there are three points; The parish was the body that took responsibility for those living within its bounds. This was the form of local government at that time. The parish overseers changed from year to year and could include anyone of good standing within the parish. A parish rate was collected from householders, agriculturalists and industrialists in order to give money in support of those who had fallen on hard times. There is much more to this topic but I hope this will help a little. Cheers, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 21:47:50 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, Thanks for the information. I will keep it in mind as I check. I am hoping the YDNA results will help too. The only problem with that is that most of the Wall men on the Family Tree DNA Wall project are from early America and haven't been traced back to England. However, if my brother matches my friends Dad, we will know that we are related at some point because she has documented proof to the Stroud Wall line. I wonder if the DNA testing is as popular in England as it seems to be in the US? I should have mentioned that my Wall's were Church of England both in the Parish records for my Wm. Walls birth in Tarlton and much later as an old man alone (as the sons had gone to Wales to work) in Biddlestone as being on Parish relief. Did one have to be a Church of England parishioner to get this? But I will check the Baptist church records. At one point, I ran across a birth to a Wall family where the child was born in the cottage in the meadow, I believe, and the father was a Shepard. Janet In a message dated 1/27/2011 4:23:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janet, at the time of the decline in the woollen industry I doubt that out of work weavers went to America as the American War of Independence had taken place some time previously. However, Australia was being developed as a British colony and welcomed immigrants from the old country at that time. It may be that some out of work weavers turned to agriculture but other industries may have absorbed some of them. For instance in Horsley Isaac HILLIER set up a business manufacturing products from pork at about this time. The mills found other uses such as making walking sticks and substantial thick card. In my own family some were involved in the woolen industry, as weavers and as mill owners but others were butchers, publicans, and brushmakers. Those who worked in the woolen industry tended to stay put but others moved to some relatively distant places: Bath, Bristol, Birmingham and London. There are a number of people named WALL in the Shortwood Baptist Church [Horsley] records. Horsley/Nailsworth is about four miles south of Stroud. Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 20:46:41 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no other Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the 1790's and none on the later census's that I can find. I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to connect to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in the USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's done. There may be a link. We will see. I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to work in the Agriculture business as mine did. I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall families. That is if these records are available! Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. Another, Janet In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janine, Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet, Since posting I have found a few Uley surnames scattered in:-   Westbury-on-Trym, Gloucester, WESLEYAN METHODIST, BRISTOL, GLOUCESTER, Uttoxeter, Stafford, York, England London and Middlesex, England But it does seem to be a very uncommon surname, found mostly in Gloucester and interestingly in London. Not related to my family but there is a town called Uleybury in South Australia, Uleybury was named by Moses Bendle Garlick, a weaver who migrated from the village of Uley in Gloucestershire, England in 1837. Garlick was a pioneer settler and lay preacher and is buried within the cemetery there. regards Janine ---------------------------------------- > From: JANETHESKI@aol.com > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:48:15 -0500 > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLS] Name - ULEY > > Hi Janine, > having looked up 'Uley' on Google all references apart from > one are to the Gloucestershire village. The other is to Sam ULEY, a > character in a shape shifting drama. > > Strange that JK ROWLING chose the name DURSLEY for Harry POTTER's aunt, > uncle and cousin in the first book. These two parishes are adjacent... > > I stayed with my family in a holiday apartment just about on the border of > Dursley and Uley. We sometimes walked to Uley but I didn't discover some > of the more attractive parts until take by a Gloucestershire friend deeper > in to the village to see a cottage on which she had worked as an architect. > > So, the name Uley does not seem to exist as a given name, apart from in > your family...according to Google > [which doesn't know everything] > > Cheers, > > Janet > > > In a message dated 27/01/2011 04:59:25 GMT Standard Time, > janine.gall@hotmail.com writes: > > Hi Janet, > > Thanks for the reply. I had considered that the family may have come from > Uley but unfortunately so far I haven't found any records to prove it. > > regards Janine > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: JANETHESKI@aol.com > > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:54:24 -0500 > > To: gloucester-l@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [GLS] Name - ULEY > > > > > > Hi Janine, > > > > Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly > > industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. > Most of > > the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the > > eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many > emigrated to > > Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. > > > > On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given > > names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may > be > > that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which > > they were known. > > > > This latter is conjecture on my part... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Janet Heskins > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Erich, The Baptism, post 1800 marriages and burials Index CDs were designed in a special format that only works with Windows. However, the same information is also available on the CD in pdf format on the CD, but is not quite as user friendly. This definitly works with Mac computers and should work with Linux. All other GFHS CDs are in pdf format. If you purchase a CD I would be very pleased to hear how you get on with the CD. Hugh Kearsey - Chairman GFHS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Schraer" <erich@wubios.wustl.edu> To: "Gloucestershire Mailing List" <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:46 PM Subject: [GLS] Format of Baptism, Burial, Marriage CDs at GFHS? > Could anyone tell me what format the records on the GFHS baptism, burial > and marriage CDs are in? The GFHS publications website doesn't seem to > make that clear at all, except that the CDs include a Windows-only > search program. I use Linux for my PC's operating system, and I want to > make sure that I can use the CDs if I purchase them. I would be > unlikely to be able to use the search program, but if the records are > not in a unique proprietary format then I could probably use them. > PDFs, most word processing formats, and most spreadsheet formats are > generally no problem for me. > > Thanks. > > --Erich Schraer > St. Louis, Missouri, USA > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, The information about Uley is very interesting as I have an old family tree which states "Charles WHITTARD of Uley in the County of Gloucestershire had issue by Hester, his wife, b.1683, d.177l". One of their nine children, Thomas, married Sarah MIDDLEMORE and were my ggggg-grandparents. Most of the family seemed to stay in that area and then moved to Cheltenham. Pauline On 27/01/2011 4:23 PM, JANETHESKI@aol.com wrote: > Hi Janet, > at the time of the decline in the woollen industry I doubt that out of work > weavers went to America as the American War of Independence had taken > place some time previously. However, Australia was being developed as a British > colony and welcomed immigrants from the old country at that time. > > It may be that some out of work weavers turned to agriculture but other > industries may have absorbed some of them. For instance in Horsley Isaac > HILLIER set up a business manufacturing products from pork at about this time. > The mills found other uses such as making walking sticks and substantial > thick card. > > In my own family some were involved in the woolen industry, as weavers and > as mill owners but others were butchers, publicans, and brushmakers. Those > who worked in the woolen industry tended to stay put but others moved to > some relatively distant places: Bath, Bristol, Birmingham and London. > > There are a number of people named WALL in the Shortwood Baptist Church > [Horsley] records. Horsley/Nailsworth is about four miles south of Stroud. > > Best wishes, > > Janet > > In a message dated 27/01/2011 20:46:41 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com > writes: > Janet, > > This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family > from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf > William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in > Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no > other > Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from > somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the > 1790's and > none on the later census's that I can find. > I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be > parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to > connect > to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I > am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in > the > USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's > done. There may be a link. We will see. > I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in > the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like > Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to > work > in the Agriculture business as mine did. > I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall > families. That is if these records are available! > Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. > > Another, > > Janet > In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: > > Hi Janine, > > Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly > industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. > Most of > the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the > eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many > emigrated to > Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. > > On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given > names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may > be > that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by > which > they were known. > > This latter is conjecture on my part... > > Cheers, > > Janet Heskins > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Janet, Do you know if the Shortwood Baptist Church records are on line? Thanks, Janet In a message dated 1/27/2011 4:23:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janet, at the time of the decline in the woollen industry I doubt that out of work weavers went to America as the American War of Independence had taken place some time previously. However, Australia was being developed as a British colony and welcomed immigrants from the old country at that time. It may be that some out of work weavers turned to agriculture but other industries may have absorbed some of them. For instance in Horsley Isaac HILLIER set up a business manufacturing products from pork at about this time. The mills found other uses such as making walking sticks and substantial thick card. In my own family some were involved in the woolen industry, as weavers and as mill owners but others were butchers, publicans, and brushmakers. Those who worked in the woolen industry tended to stay put but others moved to some relatively distant places: Bath, Bristol, Birmingham and London. There are a number of people named WALL in the Shortwood Baptist Church [Horsley] records. Horsley/Nailsworth is about four miles south of Stroud. Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 20:46:41 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no other Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the 1790's and none on the later census's that I can find. I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to connect to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in the USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's done. There may be a link. We will see. I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to work in the Agriculture business as mine did. I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall families. That is if these records are available! Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. Another, Janet In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janine, Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, Thanks for the information. I will keep it in mind as I check. I am hoping the YDNA results will help too. The only problem with that is that most of the Wall men on the Family Tree DNA Wall project are from early America and haven't been traced back to England. However, if my brother matches my friends Dad, we will know that we are related at some point because she has documented proof to the Stroud Wall line. I wonder if the DNA testing is as popular in England as it seems to be in the US? I should have mentioned that my Wall's were Church of England both in the Parish records for my Wm. Walls birth in Tarlton and much later as an old man alone (as the sons had gone to Wales to work) in Biddlestone as being on Parish relief. Did one have to be a Church of England parishioner to get this? But I will check the Baptist church records. At one point, I ran across a birth to a Wall family where the child was born in the cottage in the meadow, I believe, and the father was a Shepard. Janet In a message dated 1/27/2011 4:23:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janet, at the time of the decline in the woollen industry I doubt that out of work weavers went to America as the American War of Independence had taken place some time previously. However, Australia was being developed as a British colony and welcomed immigrants from the old country at that time. It may be that some out of work weavers turned to agriculture but other industries may have absorbed some of them. For instance in Horsley Isaac HILLIER set up a business manufacturing products from pork at about this time. The mills found other uses such as making walking sticks and substantial thick card. In my own family some were involved in the woolen industry, as weavers and as mill owners but others were butchers, publicans, and brushmakers. Those who worked in the woolen industry tended to stay put but others moved to some relatively distant places: Bath, Bristol, Birmingham and London. There are a number of people named WALL in the Shortwood Baptist Church [Horsley] records. Horsley/Nailsworth is about four miles south of Stroud. Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 20:46:41 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no other Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the 1790's and none on the later census's that I can find. I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to connect to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in the USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's done. There may be a link. We will see. I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to work in the Agriculture business as mine did. I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall families. That is if these records are available! Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. Another, Janet In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janine, Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet, at the time of the decline in the woollen industry I doubt that out of work weavers went to America as the American War of Independence had taken place some time previously. However, Australia was being developed as a British colony and welcomed immigrants from the old country at that time. It may be that some out of work weavers turned to agriculture but other industries may have absorbed some of them. For instance in Horsley Isaac HILLIER set up a business manufacturing products from pork at about this time. The mills found other uses such as making walking sticks and substantial thick card. In my own family some were involved in the woolen industry, as weavers and as mill owners but others were butchers, publicans, and brushmakers. Those who worked in the woolen industry tended to stay put but others moved to some relatively distant places: Bath, Bristol, Birmingham and London. There are a number of people named WALL in the Shortwood Baptist Church [Horsley] records. Horsley/Nailsworth is about four miles south of Stroud. Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 20:46:41 GMT Standard Time, JANLWH@aol.com writes: Janet, This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no other Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the 1790's and none on the later census's that I can find. I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to connect to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in the USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's done. There may be a link. We will see. I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to work in the Agriculture business as mine did. I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall families. That is if these records are available! Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. Another, Janet In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janine, Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins

Could anyone tell me what format the records on the GFHS baptism, burial and marriage CDs are in? The GFHS publications website doesn't seem to make that clear at all, except that the CDs include a Windows-only search program. I use Linux for my PC's operating system, and I want to make sure that I can use the CDs if I purchase them. I would be unlikely to be able to use the search program, but if the records are not in a unique proprietary format then I could probably use them. PDFs, most word processing formats, and most spreadsheet formats are generally no problem for me. Thanks. --Erich Schraer St. Louis, Missouri, USA

Janet, This information is valuable to me also. I am searching the WALL family from Tarlton in 1792. John and Nancy Wall were parents to my 3rd ggf William Wall born in Tarlton 1792. As an adult, he married and lived in Biddestone, Wiltshire about 11 miles away as an AG worker. I can find no other Wall families in Biddestone. It is like he just showed up there from somewhere else. There is only one other Wall family in Tarlton in the 1790's and none on the later census's that I can find. I am trying to find where this WALL family was from? There must be parents and aunts, uncles and siblings living somewhere! I am trying to connect to the WALL families in the Stroud area who were in the wool business. I am in contact with a descendant of this Wall family in Stroud here in the USA. I am having my brothers YDNA tested and she is having her father's done. There may be a link. We will see. I see you wrote that Uley saw the sharp decline of it's wool industry in the early 18th century and many families moved to far away places like Australia and America. Perhaps, some moved to other close by villages to work in the Agriculture business as mine did. I will browse thru the Parish records of Uley to see if I find any Wall families. That is if these records are available! Thanks for the information. It has given me a new direction to search. Another, Janet In a message dated 1/26/2011 12:55:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JANETHESKI@aol.com writes: Hi Janine, Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jeff, I found your Uley information very pertinent as I have ancestors who lived in Uley during that period. I'd like to be able to put a source to this information. Do you have a specific book or article that you got this information from? My Thomas ROBINS baptised 1764 in Uley was a carpenter. He married Margaret CAVE and they baptised children in both Uley & Owlpen.. They seem to have stayed rather than emigrated. His son James married Charlotte Yewen DAUNCEY and that branch of the family moved to Bristol. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Moderator of Yahoo! Catsash Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! Glaston Twelve Hides Hundred Group Moderator of Yahoo! NorthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! SouthWiltshire Group Moderator of Yahoo! WestWiltshire Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "J GOULD" <gould93@btinternet.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Name - ULEY Janet, Uley's history is amazing considering its idyllic situation now. In the 1830s Sheppards Mill was opened. It employed a lot of people The business failed after a few years. All the workers were maintained under the Poor Law. The Poor Rate was levied on householders. After a while the rate rose from 6 shillings in the £ to 19 shillings. The householders were going bankrupt. Meanwhile, many of the workers were living under the mill machinery. The remaining householders got together and chartered a ship from Bristol to take the unemployed to the New World. Many towns now wish they had the same solution to their unemployment problem. Jeff

Hi Janet, Thanks for the reply. I had considered that the family may have come from Uley but unfortunately so far I haven't found any records to prove it. regards Janine ---------------------------------------- > From: JANETHESKI@aol.com > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:54:24 -0500 > To: gloucester-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLS] Name - ULEY > > > Hi Janine, > > Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly > industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of > the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the > eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to > Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. > > On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given > names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be > that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which > they were known. > > This latter is conjecture on my part... > > Cheers, > > Janet Heskins > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janine, so Google didn't know everything.... Uley Bury is a megalithic hill fort to the north of Uley village. This must be an example of Mr Garlick naming the town after he Gloucestershire ste. I think we tried to walk to Uley Bury when we stayed nearby but for some reason didn't reach the top... Best wishes, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 12:34:48 GMT Standard Time, janine.gall@hotmail.com writes: Hi Janet, Since posting I have found a few Uley surnames scattered in:- Westbury-on-Trym, Gloucester, WESLEYAN METHODIST, BRISTOL, GLOUCESTER, Uttoxeter, Stafford, York, England London and Middlesex, England But it does seem to be a very uncommon surname, found mostly in Gloucester and interestingly in London. Not related to my family but there is a town called Uleybury in South Australia, Uleybury was named by Moses Bendle Garlick, a weaver who migrated from the village of Uley in Gloucestershire, England in 1837. Garlick was a pioneer settler and lay preacher and is buried within the cemetery there. regards Janine ---------------------------------------- > From: JANETHESKI@aol.com > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:48:15 -0500 > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLS] Name - ULEY > > Hi Janine, > having looked up 'Uley' on Google all references apart from > one are to the Gloucestershire village. The other is to Sam ULEY, a > character in a shape shifting drama. > > Strange that JK ROWLING chose the name DURSLEY for Harry POTTER's aunt, > uncle and cousin in the first book. These two parishes are adjacent... > > I stayed with my family in a holiday apartment just about on the border of > Dursley and Uley. We sometimes walked to Uley but I didn't discover some > of the more attractive parts until take by a Gloucestershire friend deeper > in to the village to see a cottage on which she had worked as an architect. > > So, the name Uley does not seem to exist as a given name, apart from in > your family...according to Google > [which doesn't know everything] > > Cheers, > > Janet > > > In a message dated 27/01/2011 04:59:25 GMT Standard Time, > janine.gall@hotmail.com writes: > > Hi Janet, > > Thanks for the reply. I had considered that the family may have come from > Uley but unfortunately so far I haven't found any records to prove it. > > regards Janine > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: JANETHESKI@aol.com > > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:54:24 -0500 > > To: gloucester-l@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [GLS] Name - ULEY > > > > > > Hi Janine, > > > > Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly > > industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. > Most of > > the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the > > eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many > emigrated to > > Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. > > > > On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given > > names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may > be > > that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which > > they were known. > > > > This latter is conjecture on my part... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Janet Heskins > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janine, having looked up 'Uley' on Google all references apart from one are to the Gloucestershire village. The other is to Sam ULEY, a character in a shape shifting drama. Strange that JK ROWLING chose the name DURSLEY for Harry POTTER's aunt, uncle and cousin in the first book. These two parishes are adjacent... I stayed with my family in a holiday apartment just about on the border of Dursley and Uley. We sometimes walked to Uley but I didn't discover some of the more attractive parts until take by a Gloucestershire friend deeper in to the village to see a cottage on which she had worked as an architect. So, the name Uley does not seem to exist as a given name, apart from in your family...according to Google [which doesn't know everything] Cheers, Janet In a message dated 27/01/2011 04:59:25 GMT Standard Time, janine.gall@hotmail.com writes: Hi Janet, Thanks for the reply. I had considered that the family may have come from Uley but unfortunately so far I haven't found any records to prove it. regards Janine ---------------------------------------- > From: JANETHESKI@aol.com > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:54:24 -0500 > To: gloucester-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLS] Name - ULEY > > > Hi Janine, > > Uley is a picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly > industrialised. Uley blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of > the Gloucestershire woollen industry was lost in the first part of the > eighteenth century. The weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to > Australia, sometimes with financial aid from their home parish. > > On many occasions the places where they settled in Australia were given > names that reminded them of places they were fond of in England. It may be > that some chose to use an English place name as part of the name by which > they were known. > > This latter is conjecture on my part... > > Cheers, > > Janet Heskins > >

Hi, This is my first post on this list and I would appreciate any advice on finding the birth and parents of GEORGE HOOPER, born about 1818, convicted of breaking into the house of Thomas West, near Bristol and sentenced to 15 years tranportation to Tasmania in 1842. On his convict records he states he leaves his mother ANNA/HANNAH and brother JOHN and sisters CHARLOTTE and ANNA/HANNAH back in Bristol. His occupation is listed as a wood turner. On his death certificate it states his parents were George Hooper, soldier, and Hannah Hooper, formerly COOPER of Bristol. On some of his records it gives his name as George ULEY Hooper and some of his children and grandchildren in Tasmania have the middle name of ULEY. Another family researcher was given the vague information that he was connected to William, John and Hannah CLARKE who emigrated to New Zealand from Gloucestershire. I have found baptismal records for William Uley Clark & John Uley Clark (1827) and Hannah Uley Clark (1829) at St.James, Bristol, Gloucester, England which may indicate that there was some connection. I was also wondering if anyone else is researching the name of ULEY? regards Janine

Janet, Uley's history is amazing considering its idyllic situation now.  In the 1830s Sheppards Mill was opened.  It employed a lot of people The business failed after a few years. All the workers were maintained under the Poor Law.  The Poor Rate was levied on householders. After a while the rate rose from 6 shillings in the £ to 19 shillings.  The householders were going bankrupt.  Meanwhile, many of the workers were living under the mill machinery.  The remaining householders got together and chartered a ship from Bristol to take the unemployed to the New World.  Many towns now wish they had the same solution to their unemployment problem.  Jeff ----- Original Message ---- From: "JANETHESKI@aol.com" <JANETHESKI@aol.com> To: gloucester-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 26 January, 2011 17:54:24 Subject: [GLS] Name - ULEY Hi Janine, Uley is a  picturesque small village near Stroud that was once highly industrialised. Uley  blue was used for the uniforms of the British Navy. Most of the Gloucestershire  woollen industry was lost in the first part of the eighteenth century. The  weavers were then on hard times and many emigrated to Australia, sometimes with  financial aid from their home parish. On many occasions the places where  they settled in Australia were given names that reminded them of places they  were fond of in England. It may be that some chose to use an English place name  as part of the name by which they were known. This latter is conjecture  on my part... Cheers, Janet Heskins  _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005:  http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message