My thanks to Janet for the COWMEADOW Entries. These will be passed over to my 80 year old neighbour. Cheers Graham. -- From:- Graham Williams.of           Canton,Cardiff.           Glam;FHS;#551.           "Genealogy",Where Progress is made going Backwards."

On Wed, 25 May 2011 11:19:35 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Thank you for the link,there are a lot of records there and it will > take me a while to go through 87 pages. > I had a quick look and found a couple of references to the TOVEYname, > but I have not yet found the one about Adam WILTSHIRE. > This should keep me quiet for an hour or so.{;-) Hi Colin, I found the reference by putting "Adam Wiltshire""Westerleigh" into a Google search. I came up with this page > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=002-pw&cid=-1#-1 If you put Adam or Adam Wiltshire into a search on that page you should come up with the 1795 reference to him. I think it was among the settlement references. Josephine -- www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Josephine, Thank you for the link,there are a lot of records there and it will take me a while to go through 87 pages. I had a quick look and found a couple of references to the TOVEYname, but I have not yet found the one about Adam WILTSHIRE. This should keep me quiet for an hour or so.{;-) Regards, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: [GLS] WILTSHIRE Adam, Westerleigh records, 1795 (was WILTSHIRE Adam, burial, Westerleigh, 1807) > On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:05:42 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > >> Again my thanks for your help with this research on the WILTSHIRE >> family, I do appreciate your help, it never ceases to amaze me how some >> folks go the extra distance to help others with their research. > > Hi Colin, > > Thanks for your three responses. It has been interesting following this > family through the Bristol Diocese resources. > > I was wondering why I couldn't find a baptism for the elder Adam WILTSHIRE > in the Bristol Diocese baptisms 1754-1812 or in the Nonconformist > Baptismal Registers in Bristol Record Office 1754 to 1837. This could be > because he was born out of the area. > > I have come across a reference to Adam WILTSHIRE, labourer, 6th. March > 1795, in the Westerleigh records held at Bristol Record Office, which > might hold a clue: > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=002-pw&cid=-1#-1 > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Graham, There are these burials at Newent (source Gloucestershire Burial Index) which could perhaps be connected in some way to the COWMEADOW family: 18 January 1814 at Newent William COWMEADOW, Newent Town, aged 74 31 May 1820 at Newent Thomas COWMEADOW, Newent Gorsley, aged 88 16 December 1837 Thomas COWMEADOW, Newent Town, aged 63 There is also this burial of a Joshua DREW on 21 February 1821, Newent Poor House, aged 60. There are the following COWMEADOW marriages on Gloucestershire Marriage Index pre 1800 (these mostly are marriages which do not appear on Phillimores Marriage Index): 6 October 1746 at Whitminster Thomas COWMEADOW & Sarah BIRT, Longney 6 May 1792 at St Mary de Crypt, Gloucester William COWMEADOW, Newent & Eleanor WALINGTON, by licence 21 May 1771 at Longney Thomas GRIFFITHS & Elizabeth COWMEADOW, by licence There are also the following Monumental Inscriptions in Newent churchyard (source Biglands MIs): Thomas DREW died July 1771, aged 77 Jane his wife died 24 Nov 1764, aged 77 John COWMEADE died 2 April 1739, aged 61 Alexander COWMEADOW died 12 August 1762, aged 44 Thomas HOLDER sen died 23 Oct 1729?, aged 68 Jane his wife died 8 September 1722, aged 59 According to Hugh Wallis's IGI site, there is a baptism at Newent on 31 March 1756 of a Mary COWMEADOW, daughter of Alexander & Mary, so perhaps the Alexander buried above is Mary's father?? It might also be worthwhile looking at Gloucestershire Archives Genealogical Database search (ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx) as there are a few Newent COWMEADOW (and variants) wills plus one for a Joshua DREW, Yeoman, of Newent, which was proved in 1786. Hope this helps a little as they may fit somewhere into your neighbour's family. Janet Joshua DREW who married Mary COWMEDDOW on the 28 march 1773 at Churcham Gloucestershire. Is anyone researching this family? Joshua DREW was baptised at Newent 7 november 1759,the son of Joshua DREW and his wife Elizabeth HOLDER[married 15 September 1748 at Newent]

On Tue, 24 May 2011 23:05:42 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Again my thanks for your help with this research on the WILTSHIRE > family, I do appreciate your help, it never ceases to amaze me how some > folks go the extra distance to help others with their research. Hi Colin, Thanks for your three responses. It has been interesting following this family through the Bristol Diocese resources. I was wondering why I couldn't find a baptism for the elder Adam WILTSHIRE in the Bristol Diocese baptisms 1754-1812 or in the Nonconformist Baptismal Registers in Bristol Record Office 1754 to 1837. This could be because he was born out of the area. I have come across a reference to Adam WILTSHIRE, labourer, 6th. March 1795, in the Westerleigh records held at Bristol Record Office, which might hold a clue: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=002-pw&cid=-1#-1 Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Good morning Josephine, Again my thanks for your help with this research on the WILTSHIRE family, I do appreciate your help, it never ceases to amaze me how some folks go the extra distance to help others with their research. Regards, Colin in sunny Queensland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:31 AM Subject: [GLS] WILTSHIRE Adam, burial, Westerleigh, 1807 (was WILTSHIRE Adam, baptism, Westerleigh, 1797) > On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:57:08 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > >> Many thanks to the following information on the WILTSHIRE family, it is >> very much appreciated. >> I have been looking on the internet for possible CDs of Baptismal, >> Marriage and Burial Registers and you have been kind enough to give me >> the place >> they can be purchased. >> I will pursue this line of information! > > Hi Colin, > > Thank you for your two responses to my previous messages about the > WILTSHIRE family of Westerleigh. > > There is more information about this family in other CDs produced by > Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > For instance there is reference to the burial of Adam WILTSHIRE, on 8th. > March 1807 at Westerleigh. No age is given, but he could have been Adam, > the father of Adam WILTSHIRE who was baptized at Westerleigh in 1797, and > the husband of Sarah WILTSHIRE (nee GARDINER). > > This burial is included in Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol. 3 Index & > Transcripts 1754-1812. > > If this burial is that of Sarah's husband, then Sarah could be the widow, > Sarah WILTSHIRE, who married Richard CONSTABLE at Westerleigh in 1814. > > More on this marriage in another message. > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Josephine, Again my thanks for the information you have given me, it is a great help! Regards, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:23 PM Subject: [GLS] WILTSHIRE Adam & GARDINER Sarah, marriage, Wapley and Codrington, 1792 (was Wiltshire & Tovey) > On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:08:28 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > >> I looked for and found a birth for Jane WILTSHIRE registered in the >> December Qtr 1851 in Chipping Sodbury which I presume his hers but I >> will obtain the certificate to prove this is so. >> >> In in the mean time I looked for Jane in the 1861 Census and found (I >> presume this is the correct one) her age 9 with siblings, Albert age 6, >> Sarah Ann age 4 and Emily age 2 and parents Moses age 32 an Ag. Lab. and >> Ellen age 28, both born in Frampton Cottrell, living on Frampton >> Common, Frampton Cottrell. >> >> I have looked in Family Search and found the following marriage for >> Moses WILTSHIRE to Ellen TOVEY on the 12th January 1851 in Frampton >> Cottrell. > > Hi Colin, > > In my previous message, I noted that Jane's possible grandfather, Adam > WILTSHIRE, son of Adam and Sarah, was baptized on 2nd. April 1797 at > Westerleigh, GLS. > > A likely match for his parents, Jane's great-grandparents, could be Adam > WILTSHIRE and Sarah GARDINER whose marriage on 8th. April 1792 was > recorded in the Wapley & Codrington register. > > This marriage is included in the Bristol Diocese Marriage Registers Vol 9 > Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812. www.bafhs.org.uk > > Josephine > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening Josephine, Many thanks to the following information on the WILTSHIRE family, it is very much appreciated. I have been looking on the internet for possible CDs of Baptismal, Marriage and Burial Registers and you have been kind enough to give me the place they can be purchased. I will pursue this line of information! Again my thanks! Regards, Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: [GLS] WILTSHIRE Adam, baptism, Westerleigh,1797 (was Wiltshire & Tovey) > On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:08:28 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > >> I looked for and found a birth for Jane WILTSHIRE registered in the >> December Qtr 1851 in Chipping Sodbury which I presume his hers but I >> will obtain the certificate to prove this is so. >> >> In in the mean time I looked for Jane in the 1861 Census and found (I >> presume this is the correct one) her age 9 with siblings, Albert age 6, >> Sarah Ann age 4 and Emily age 2 and parents Moses age 32 an Ag. Lab. and >> Ellen age 28, both born in Frampton Cottrell, living on Frampton >> Common, Frampton Cottrell. >> >> I have looked in Family Search and found the following marriage for >> Moses WILTSHIRE to Ellen TOVEY on the 12th January 1851 in Frampton >> Cottrell. > > Hi Colin, > > Here are some possible matches for the WILTSHIRE family: > > Moses WILTSHIRE, son of Adam and Elizabeth, was baptized on 4th. October > 1829 at Frampton Cotterell, GLS. Abode was Frampton Cotterell and father's > occupation was labourer. Minister was H. SHUTE. > > This baptism is included in Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols. 1 to > 7 Index & Transcripts 1813-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History > Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > Adam WILTSHIRE, son of Adam and Sarah, was baptized on 2nd. April 1797 at > Westerleigh, GLS. This baptism is included in Bristol Diocese Baptismal > Registers Vols. 11 to 14 Index & Transcripts 1754-1837 produced by Bristol > & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > Josephine > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:57:08 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Many thanks to the following information on the WILTSHIRE family, it is > very much appreciated. > I have been looking on the internet for possible CDs of Baptismal, > Marriage and Burial Registers and you have been kind enough to give me > the place they can be purchased. > I will pursue this line of information! Hi Colin, You can also use the free online South Gloucestershirte Burial Index to find information on the families you are researching. http://www.bafhs.org.uk/burial-data/burial-index If you search for CONSTABLE you will find two burials. One is that of 5-month-old Sarah CONSTABLE who was buried on 25th. August 1814 at Westerleigh. Abode was Mortimers, Westerleigh. She may have been Sarah CONSTABLE, the daughter of Richard and Sarah, who was baptized on 20th. March 1814 at Westerleigh. (Incorrectly, I put Mortimers as the abode at baptism in my previous message, but the abode was given as just Westerleigh at the baptism. Mortimers was the abode at the time of the baby's burial.) The other burial is that of Sarah CONSTABLE, aged 79, on 11th. January 1846 at Westerleigh. She may have been Sarah CONSTABLE (nee GARDINER formerly WILTSHIRE). She may have been the great-grandmother of the Jane WILTSHIRE you mentioned in your initial message. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:08:37 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hello again Josephine, > Again my thanks for the information you have given me, it is a great > help! Hi Colin, An enthusiastic response, like yours, always makes me want to look further:-) In my previous message, I mentioned the marriage of widow, Sarah WILTSHIRE, & Richard CONSTABLE. I wrote 1814 by mistake when I should have written 1813. Sarah WILTSHIRE, widow, and bachelor, Richard CONSTABLE, were married, by banns, on 23rd. October 1813 at Westerleigh, GLS. Both were of the parish. This marriage is included in the Marriage Index Vol 8 Diocese of Bristol 1813-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Sarah CONSTABLE, daughter of Richard and Sarah, was baptized on 20th. March 1814 at Westerleigh. Abode was Mortimers, Westerleigh and father's occupation was labourer. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Greetings to all. Whilst researching in the Forest of Dean registers,I came across this marriage........ Joshua DREW who married Mary COWMEDDOW on the 28 march 1773 at Churcham Gloucestershire. Is anyone researching this family? Joshua DREW was baptised at Newent 7 november 1759,the son of Joshua DREW and his wife Elizabeth HOLDER[married 15 September 1748 at Newent] The above is for a neighbour of mine. Cheers Graham. -- From:- Graham Williams.of           Canton,Cardiff.           Glam;FHS;#551.           "Genealogy",Where Progress is made going Backwards."

On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:57:08 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Many thanks to the following information on the WILTSHIRE family, it is > very much appreciated. > I have been looking on the internet for possible CDs of Baptismal, > Marriage and Burial Registers and you have been kind enough to give me > the place > they can be purchased. > I will pursue this line of information! Hi Colin, Thank you for your two responses to my previous messages about the WILTSHIRE family of Westerleigh. There is more information about this family in other CDs produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk For instance there is reference to the burial of Adam WILTSHIRE, on 8th. March 1807 at Westerleigh. No age is given, but he could have been Adam, the father of Adam WILTSHIRE who was baptized at Westerleigh in 1797, and the husband of Sarah WILTSHIRE (nee GARDINER). This burial is included in Bristol Diocese Burial Registers Vol. 3 Index & Transcripts 1754-1812. If this burial is that of Sarah's husband, then Sarah could be the widow, Sarah WILTSHIRE, who married Richard CONSTABLE at Westerleigh in 1814. More on this marriage in another message. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:08:28 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I looked for and found a birth for Jane WILTSHIRE registered in the > December Qtr 1851 in Chipping Sodbury which I presume his hers but I > will obtain the certificate to prove this is so. > > In in the mean time I looked for Jane in the 1861 Census and found (I > presume this is the correct one) her age 9 with siblings, Albert age 6, > Sarah Ann age 4 and Emily age 2 and parents Moses age 32 an Ag. Lab. and > Ellen age 28, both born in Frampton Cottrell, living on Frampton > Common, Frampton Cottrell. > > I have looked in Family Search and found the following marriage for > Moses WILTSHIRE to Ellen TOVEY on the 12th January 1851 in Frampton > Cottrell. Hi Colin, In my previous message, I noted that Jane's possible grandfather, Adam WILTSHIRE, son of Adam and Sarah, was baptized on 2nd. April 1797 at Westerleigh, GLS. A likely match for his parents, Jane's great-grandparents, could be Adam WILTSHIRE and Sarah GARDINER whose marriage on 8th. April 1792 was recorded in the Wapley & Codrington register. This marriage is included in the Bristol Diocese Marriage Registers Vol 9 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:08:28 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I looked for and found a birth for Jane WILTSHIRE registered in the > December Qtr 1851 in Chipping Sodbury which I presume his hers but I > will obtain the certificate to prove this is so. > > In in the mean time I looked for Jane in the 1861 Census and found (I > presume this is the correct one) her age 9 with siblings, Albert age 6, > Sarah Ann age 4 and Emily age 2 and parents Moses age 32 an Ag. Lab. and > Ellen age 28, both born in Frampton Cottrell, living on Frampton > Common, Frampton Cottrell. > > I have looked in Family Search and found the following marriage for > Moses WILTSHIRE to Ellen TOVEY on the 12th January 1851 in Frampton > Cottrell. Hi Colin, Here are some possible matches for the WILTSHIRE family: Moses WILTSHIRE, son of Adam and Elizabeth, was baptized on 4th. October 1829 at Frampton Cotterell, GLS. Abode was Frampton Cotterell and father's occupation was labourer. Minister was H. SHUTE. This baptism is included in Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols. 1 to 7 Index & Transcripts 1813-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Adam WILTSHIRE, son of Adam and Sarah, was baptized on 2nd. April 1797 at Westerleigh, GLS. This baptism is included in Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols. 11 to 14 Index & Transcripts 1754-1837 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Tony, Many thanks for your help with all this info on the family, it is very much appreciated, it will most certainly help. I will print this off and keep it till I get the marriage certificate I ordered and check the parents names, if I have the right one, then I am on a roll! Regards, Colin from a very damp Brisbane, QLd. -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Ricketts" <tony.ricketts@softadr.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Wiltshire & Tovey > > Hi > > Not related to your family but have found this after a quick search > >>From the IGI > > Moses Wiltshire > baptism/christening date: 04 Oct 1829 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England > father's name: Adam Wiltshire > mother's name: Elizabeth > indexing project (batch) number: I05372-4 > > Ellen Tovey > baptism/christening date: 30 Jun 1833 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England > father's name: William Tovey > mother's name: Mary > indexing project (batch) number: I05372-4 > > Moses parents -- > Adam Wiltshire > married Elizabeth Williams > marriage date: 28 Nov 1820 > marriage place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England > > other possible children of Adam Wiltshire and Elizabeth Williams > > Joseph Wiltshire > baptism/christening date: 17 Jun 1821 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England > > Adam Wiltshire > baptism/christening date: 27 Sep 1822 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterall, Gloucester, England > married Catherine/Caroline ? born 1827 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire > (from census info) > Aaron Wiltshire born 1850 Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England > Alexina Wiltshire born 1853 > George Wiltshire born 1855 > Charles Wiltshire born 1858 > Alfred Wiltshire born 1860 > James Wiltshire born 1862 > Henry Wiltshire born 1864 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales > > Sarah Wiltshire > baptism/christening date: 08 May 1825 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterall, Gloucester, England > poss marriage to George Bowyer > marriage date: 25 Dec 1848 > marriage place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England > > Abraham Wiltshire > baptism/christening date: 23 Jul 1826 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England > > (Moses) > > Aaron Wiltshire > baptism/christening date: 31 Jul 1831 > baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England > > Census Info for Adam and Elizabeth > 1841 Census Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England > Adam Wiltshire born 1798 Goucestershire > Elizabeth Wilshire born 1801 > Adam Wilshire born 1826 > Sarah Wilshire born 1826 > Abraham Wilshire born 1829 > Moses Wilshire born 1831 > Aaron Wilshire born 1833 > > 1851 Census Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England > Adam Wilshire born 1798 Westerleigh, Gloucestershire, England > Elizabeth Wilshire born 1803 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire > > 1861 census Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England > Adam Wiltshire born 1798 Kendal, Gloucestershire > Elizabeth Wiltshire born 1801 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire > Hannah Bowyer born 1845 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire GrandDaughter > > Hope that helps a little > > cheers > Tony > _____________________________________________

In researching my daughter's maternal line I have found one of her ancestors, William TONKIN b.c1841 in Cornwall, married in Bristol 1869 to Jane WILTSHIRE b. c1851 in Frampton Cottrell, Gloucester. I duly sent off for this marriage certificate yesterday. Jane had two children and then the whole family travelled out to Victoria, Australia in late 1871 where a further four children were born and Jane died in 1880. I looked for and found a birth for Jane WILTSHIRE registered in the December Qtr 1851 in Chipping Sodbury which I presume his hers but I will obtain the certificate to prove this is so. In in the mean time I looked for Jane in the 1861 Census and found (I presume this is the correct one) her age 9 with siblings, Albert age 6, Sarah Ann age 4 and Emily age 2 and parents Moses age 32 an Ag. Lab. and Ellen age 28, both born in Frampton Cottrell, living on Frampton Common, Frampton Cottrell. I have looked in Family Search and found the following marriage for Moses WILTSHIRE to Ellen TOVEY on the 12th January 1851 in Frampton Cottrell. I am hoping this is the correct marriage for the above couple. I have not found the births for Ellen TOVEY and Moses WILTSHIRE yet! I have also looked at the 1871 and 1881 Census and found another three sons, Henry, Charles and William. All this of course is moot till I get the marriage certificate for William and Jane to see who their respective fathers were. Is there anyone out there researching this family and any suggestions on where I should look next would be appreciated. Colin in a very damp Brisbane, Qld!

Hi Not related to your family but have found this after a quick search >From the IGI Moses Wiltshire baptism/christening date: 04 Oct 1829 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England father's name: Adam Wiltshire mother's name: Elizabeth indexing project (batch) number: I05372-4 Ellen Tovey baptism/christening date: 30 Jun 1833 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England father's name: William Tovey mother's name: Mary indexing project (batch) number: I05372-4 Moses parents -- Adam Wiltshire married Elizabeth Williams marriage date: 28 Nov 1820 marriage place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England other possible children of Adam Wiltshire and Elizabeth Williams Joseph Wiltshire baptism/christening date: 17 Jun 1821 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England Adam Wiltshire baptism/christening date: 27 Sep 1822 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterall, Gloucester, England married Catherine/Caroline ? born 1827 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire (from census info) Aaron Wiltshire born 1850 Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England Alexina Wiltshire born 1853 George Wiltshire born 1855 Charles Wiltshire born 1858 Alfred Wiltshire born 1860 James Wiltshire born 1862 Henry Wiltshire born 1864 Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales Sarah Wiltshire baptism/christening date: 08 May 1825 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterall, Gloucester, England poss marriage to George Bowyer marriage date: 25 Dec 1848 marriage place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England Abraham Wiltshire baptism/christening date: 23 Jul 1826 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England (Moses) Aaron Wiltshire baptism/christening date: 31 Jul 1831 baptism/christening place: Frampton Cotterell, Gloucester, England Census Info for Adam and Elizabeth 1841 Census Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Adam Wiltshire born 1798 Goucestershire Elizabeth Wilshire born 1801 Adam Wilshire born 1826 Sarah Wilshire born 1826 Abraham Wilshire born 1829 Moses Wilshire born 1831 Aaron Wilshire born 1833 1851 Census Winterbourne, Gloucestershire, England Adam Wilshire born 1798 Westerleigh, Gloucestershire, England Elizabeth Wilshire born 1803 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire 1861 census Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Adam Wiltshire born 1798 Kendal, Gloucestershire Elizabeth Wiltshire born 1801 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire Hannah Bowyer born 1845 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire GrandDaughter Hope that helps a little cheers Tony

Hello All Just a thank you to Liz J for her kind offer, but it is not needed now as Hugh sent a jpeg wth the info. Thanks to David too for your comment, but I have to say, extraction errors can and do occur. P S Has anyone come across a marriage Robert Gadney/ Sarah in their travels?, around 1724 Regards Ray G

Hi Hope the following from the IGI may help Daniel Dier (born about 1696 of Wickwar, Gloucestershire, died 19 AUG 1733) son of John Dier and Elizabeth married Mary Stephens/Stevens (born about 1703 of Wickwar, Gloucestershire, died 10 MAR 1720 Wickwar, Gloucestershire) on 12 JAN 1720 Wickwar, Gloucestershire John Dier and Elizabeth look like they also had Elizabeth Dier Christening: 22 MAY 1690 Wickwar, Gloucester John Dier Christening: 28 DEC 1691 Wickwar, Gloucester Thomas Dier Christening: 26 AUG 1693 Wickwar, Gloucester Roger Dier Christening: 16 JUN 1695 Wickwar, Gloucester Sarah Dier Christening: 03 JAN 1708 Wickwar, Gloucester Ester/Esther Dier Christening: 11 APR 1697 Wickwar, Gloucester cheers Tony > From: cohb284@msn.com > To: GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 12:18:41 -0600 > Subject: Re: [GLS] Dyer and Stephen family > > This is a corrected reposting. > > I am looking for information about Daniel Dier/Dyer and Mary Stephens > Daniel Dyer was born 6 Aug 1699 in Wickwar > Mary Stephens was born 5 Feb 1704 in Wickwar > > I have found one Daniel Dyer son of Thomas Dyer and Elizabeth Tomes who were married in Henbury > 29 Dec 1693 > I have found one Mary Stephens daughter of William Stephens and Elizabeth Howlett > married 1698 in Cam. > > Daniel Dier/Dyer and Mary Stephens were married? (I do not have date but they would have been young. They had a daughter Sarah Dier/Dyer born 21 Feb 1720/21 > Mary died 10 Mar 1720/21 probably in childbirth? > > Daniel Dyer remarried (2) to Elizabeth Ford md 10 Dec 1721 > They had two sons named John and Roger

Hi to all, I have borrowed from my local library The Complete Book of Emigrants in Bondage 1614 - 1775 by P.W. Coldham really useful if you have some one who goes missing. It gives - surname and christian name parish of origin sometimes occupation if a woman sometimes her husbands name sentencing court, sometimes offence, month and year of sentence month and year and ship if known on which transported place month and year where known of landing in America English county in which sentenced for anyone who would have difficulty accessing inter-library loans I will gladly do a look-up. please be very specific with names as there are long lists of Smiths and Jones etc I have the book until end of June - after that it will be back in the library system for anyone who asks for it. also please give me time to respond as due to family commitments my computer time is limited Regards Sandra