Historical, Monumental and Genealogical Collections Relative to the County of GloucestershireGoogle Books has come up with a reference to my WYATT/CATER family in the above book, but I can't seem to find access to a copy online. Please does anyone have this book? If so, I am interested in pages 1159 and 1160 and would welcome a transcription or image of the relevant entries. thanks! Marion

Good morning, Could the following query be posted please? I would be interested to hear from anyone with Grizzelle or Grizzell connections in Gloucestershire in the Bishop's Cleve area during the 1800's. Thank you, Shirley Devery.

Hi June, I have JAYNE in the Forest of Dean. Would that be close enough? Unfortunately, none of my research goes into the 1900s very far. Just thought you might want to have a look at JAYNE as an alternative spelling for JAINES. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Chan" <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:06 PM Subject: [GLS] JAINES > Would be interested in hearing from anyone who is familiar with the name > JAINES in Gloucestershire. > > I have Sidney Willis Bullock, born in 1899 in Westbury On Severn. > > In 1930 he marries Amy Jaines in Westbury On Severn, however I am unable to > find her family. > > Would be interested in hearing from anyone who may be familiar with this > name. > > Regards > > June >

I did wonder if it could be an incorrect transcription. I found the information I had on the Find My Past website. Will look further for the family under James. Thank you. June -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Watkins Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:29 AM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLS] JAINES (JAMES) Looking at the Parish Records on our Web site we have the surname transcribed as JAMES. Have a Good Day! David Watkins Forest of Dean Family History http://www.forest-of-dean.net/ _________________________________

If it's mistranscribed, it's a GRO error not a Findmypast (or Ancestry) error - the typed index quite clearly says Jaines Pat Hanby Reading, UK Today's Topics: 3. Re: JAINES (JAMES) (June Chan) ----------------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:34:10 +1000 From: "June Chan" <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> Subject: Re: [GLS] JAINES (JAMES) To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002e01cc20bc$cad2b9d0$60782d70$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I did wonder if it could be an incorrect transcription. I found the information I had on the Find My Past website. Will look further for the family under James. Thank you. June -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Watkins Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2011 10:29 AM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLS] JAINES (JAMES) Looking at the Parish Records on our Web site we have the surname transcribed as JAMES. Have a Good Day! David Watkins Forest of Dean Family History http://www.forest-of-dean.net/ _________________________________

Would be interested in hearing from anyone who is familiar with the name JAINES in Gloucestershire. I have Sidney Willis Bullock, born in 1899 in Westbury On Severn. In 1930 he marries Amy Jaines in Westbury On Severn, however I am unable to find her family. Would be interested in hearing from anyone who may be familiar with this name. Regards June

Looking at the Parish Records on our Web site we have the surname transcribed as JAMES. Have a Good Day! David Watkins Forest of Dean Family History http://www.forest-of-dean.net/ _________________________________ On 02/06/2011, at 8:06 AM, June Chan wrote: Would be interested in hearing from anyone who is familiar with the name JAINES in Gloucestershire. I have Sidney Willis Bullock, born in 1899 in Westbury On Severn. In 1930 he marries Amy Jaines in Westbury On Severn, however I am unable to find her family. Would be interested in hearing from anyone who may be familiar with this name. Regards June

On 2011/05/30 16:46, Roger Bailey wrote: > Regarding Thomas being a church warden for one year only. Was it for him to > qualify under item 4 in the 1662 settlement act, conditions listed below. Some time ago, I was able to download a digital copy of the book "The Handy Book of Parish Law" by W.A. Holdsworth. From Google, I think. This contains a lot of information about the way an English Parish should have been administered. If you go to <http://www.archive.org/details/handybookparish00holdgoog>, you should be able to view a PDF version of the book. Then, if you have a PDF add-on for your browser, you too can save a copy of the book to your PC. Not exactly what I would call bed-time reading, but interesting, all the same. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

did they reside in Ireland , or part f the family go there? myrna -------------------------------------------------- From: "Roger Bailey" <rogereb@lineone.net> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 7:46 AM To: "GlosGen" <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Subject: [GLS] Bayley family in Hartpury again > Hello again > Thanks to your replies to my call for help. Following are my replies to > your comments or queries. > > Regarding Thomas being a church warden for one year only. Was it for him > to qualify under item 4 in the 1662 settlement act, conditions listed > below. > > 1. Be born into the parish. > 2. Have lived in the parish for three years before 1662. > 3. Be hired for over a year and a day that takes place within the parish. > 4. Hold an office within the parish. > 5. Rent a property worth £10 per year or pay the same in rent. > 6. Have married into the parish. > (I believe this is for women only) > 7. Gained poor relief in that parish previously. > 8. Have a seven-year apprenticeship with a settled resident. > > Being "settled" prior to his marriage would account for Thomas being "from > Hartpury" in the St Mary de Lode register. > As to a certain standard of education required for the post of church > warden, Thomas' eldest son, another Thomas, became the parish clerk in > Lassington which may show that there was some learning. > > Ashleworth had a Bayley families for generations who seemed to have many > clandestine marriages and I cannot find a death of a possible first wife > of the Thomas b. 1657. Bayleys seemed to keep clear of Hartpury until > Thomas and Mary had a family there. > I am descended from their son John who made his way to Newent parish where > the line continued until 1900+. > > Regards > > Roger Bailey > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello again Thanks to your replies to my call for help. Following are my replies to your comments or queries. Regarding Thomas being a church warden for one year only. Was it for him to qualify under item 4 in the 1662 settlement act, conditions listed below. 1. Be born into the parish. 2. Have lived in the parish for three years before 1662. 3. Be hired for over a year and a day that takes place within the parish. 4. Hold an office within the parish. 5. Rent a property worth £10 per year or pay the same in rent. 6. Have married into the parish. (I believe this is for women only) 7. Gained poor relief in that parish previously. 8. Have a seven-year apprenticeship with a settled resident. Being "settled" prior to his marriage would account for Thomas being "from Hartpury" in the St Mary de Lode register. As to a certain standard of education required for the post of church warden, Thomas' eldest son, another Thomas, became the parish clerk in Lassington which may show that there was some learning. Ashleworth had a Bayley families for generations who seemed to have many clandestine marriages and I cannot find a death of a possible first wife of the Thomas b. 1657. Bayleys seemed to keep clear of Hartpury until Thomas and Mary had a family there. I am descended from their son John who made his way to Newent parish where the line continued until 1900+. Regards Roger Bailey

Hi Are these their children - from the IGI Tho Bayly baptism/christening date: 16 Jun 1704 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Tho Bayly mother's name: Mary William Bayly baptism/christening date: 18 Nov 1716 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Thomas Bayly mother's name: Mary John Bayly baptism/christening date: 01 Mar 1712 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND father's name: Thomas Bayly mother's name: Mary Mary Bayly baptism/christening date: 12 Dec 1706 baptism/christening place: HARTPURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND death date: 21 Jun 1713 father's name: Tho Bayly mother's name: Mary cheers Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Bailey" <rogereb@lineone.net> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Cc: "GlosGen" <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: [GLS] Bayley family in Hartpury > Hello all. > > In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. > His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the > Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and > the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, > having the copyhold. > > On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary > de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both > appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can > definitely trace. > Can anyone help me with the following:- > > Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in > Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" > men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in > Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is > not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next > door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers > will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a > farming community in those days. > > Why did they marry in Gloucester? > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Roger Bailey > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Churchwarden was the guardian or keeper of the church and they had to be ratepayers and householders in the parish. They were elected by the parishioners usually at the first vestry meeting following Easter. As they had to present the accounts for the parish within the last month of their year of office I would suggest that some form of education had been undertaken. Basically, Thomas was probably already established in Hartpury when elected to the role, he was probably of good standing in the community. If you haven't done so already, it would be interesting to view the parish records [i.e. those other than parish registers] if they still exist to see the roles he undertook in his year of office, see his writing even!! There may also be some clue as to his movements around which may explain the Gloucester marriage - perhaps he met his future wife there whilst on a visit. I seem to recall that St Mary de Lode had a lot of marriages from out of the parish [as did Hemstead on the outskirts of Gloucester], but can't recall why this was. Perhaps another lister can remind us! Hope this offers some help and information Lynne www.tetburyfamilies.co.uk On 29/05/2011 16:48, Roger Bailey wrote: > Hello all. > > In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, having the copyhold. > > On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can definitely trace. > Can anyone help me with the following:- > > Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a farming community in those days. > > Why did they marry in Gloucester? > > Any suggestions welcome! > > Roger Bailey > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Roger I only have access to the transcripts at www.forest-of-dean.net and that, while it lists Mary Drew's residence as Hartpury, gives no residence for Thomas Bayly - you may know if this is a transcription error or not - so is it possible he was not from Hartpury. If Thomas Bayly the church warden is the same man I doubt he would not have been appointed just to establish his residence. There is, however, a Baily family just down the road at Ashleworth that includes a Thomas baptised 1657 a bit old for a first marriage but a second marriage would still be a possibility - just a thought. There was a period during which Forest of dean couples had to go to Gloucester to be married (sometimes the marriage was recorded in their home parish too). If memory serves me correctly it was about this time but I'm sure someone else on the list will be able to be more precise. Regards Colin -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bailey Sent: 29 May 2011 16:49 To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Cc: GlosGen Subject: [GLS] Bayley family in Hartpury Hello all. In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, having the copyhold. On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can definitely trace. Can anyone help me with the following:- Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a farming community in those days. Why did they marry in Gloucester? Any suggestions welcome! Roger Bailey

Hi Could SKS please tell me if the marriages for Stroud are available on the internet? I am looking for confirmation that a marriage between Henry BOWLEY and Harriett KING occurred in 1826. Many thanks Kerrie Australia

Kerrie, Gloucestershire Marriage Index - Husbands Search carried out on 29/05/2011 from an Index dated 05/11/2002 using the Search Services of the Gloucestershire Family History Society BOWLEY Henry at Stroud to KING Harriette on 1826 15 Oct Hugh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerrie" <kerriea@aapt.net.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:04 AM Subject: [GLS] Stroud marriages > Hi > > Could SKS please tell me if the marriages for Stroud are available on the > internet? I am looking for confirmation that a marriage between Henry > BOWLEY and Harriett KING occurred in 1826. > > Many thanks > Kerrie > Australia > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all. In 1702 Thomas Bayley became a churchwarden in Hartpury for one year only. His entry in the parish records for that year notes he is "For the Collyers". The 1830 tithe map shows land with the name Colliers on it and the 1700 estate records has a Mary Collier relict of William Collier, having the copyhold. On 20 September 1703 he married Mary Drew (born 1680, Hartpury) at St Mary de Lodes Gloucester. Records state they where each "of Hartpury". Both appear to be of Yeoman stock and are my earliest ancestors that I can definitely trace. Can anyone help me with the following:- Did Thomas become a churchwarden for one year to establish him in Hartpury? If so then where did he come from. So far I have found no "free" men of the comparable age to Mary in the surrounding parishes in Gloucestershire, Worcestershire or Herefordshire. The only Thomas who is not married or having children or been buried is one born 1657 and next door in Ashleworth. He was still alive in 1695 as he is in his fathers will. Would a 23 year age gap between him and Mary be acceptable in a farming community in those days. Why did they marry in Gloucester? Any suggestions welcome! Roger Bailey

Hi Kerrie Here's your answer: © Gloucestershire Family History Society 2003 - Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD Surname (Groom) : BOWLEY Forename (Groom) : Henry Additional Info (Groom) : Place (Groom) : Place of Marriage : STROUD Surname (Bride) : KING Forename (Bride) : Harriette Additional Info (Bride) : Place (Bride) : Date : 15-Oct 1826 Licence/banns : By Banns Liz _______________________________________________   Elizabeth Jack Hidden Heritage: www.hidden-heritage.co.uk Connect with nature: www.wildobs.com Researching BLINKHORNE, SOSBE, GWINNETT   -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerrie Sent: 29 May 2011 06:04 To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLS] Stroud marriages Hi Could SKS please tell me if the marriages for Stroud are available on the internet? I am looking for confirmation that a marriage between Henry BOWLEY and Harriett KING occurred in 1826. Many thanks Kerrie Australia _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Edward END of Tenbury married Barnstaple 1802 http://www.archive.org/stream/registerofbaptis00byubarn#page/n337/mode/2up There was great Militia movement at this time, folk came from all over England. Beverley Edmonds Researching all EDMONDS anywhere in Devon

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Thank you Josephine, I finally found the reference to Adam. I suspect I would have to obtain a copy from, the Bristol Records Office to find out where he was settled. I also found a number of references to the TOVEY line too which will help. Regards, Colin. ------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] WILTSHIRE Adam, Westerleigh records, 1795 (was WILTSHIRE Adam, burial, Westerleigh, 1807) > On Wed, 25 May 2011 11:19:35 +0100, Colin Liddell <caplid@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: > >> Thank you for the link,there are a lot of records there and it will >> take me a while to go through 87 pages. >> I had a quick look and found a couple of references to the TOVEYname, >> but I have not yet found the one about Adam WILTSHIRE. >> This should keep me quiet for an hour or so.{;-) > > Hi Colin, > > I found the reference by putting "Adam Wiltshire""Westerleigh" into a > Google search. > > I came up with this page > >> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=002-pw&cid=-1#-1 > > If you put Adam or Adam Wiltshire into a search on that page you should > come up with the 1795 reference to him. I think it was among the > settlement references. > > Josephine > > -- > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message