On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:47:39 +0100, Tracey Ives <traceyives@gmail.com> wrote: > Frederick Wilkins was born 1820 and it was thought in Gloucestershire, > but that now seems up for debate. He married Ann Vizard on the 16th > January, > 1848 in Dursley, Gloucestershire. On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:26:29 +0100, Nancy Frey <nfrey@auracom.com> wrote: > I had a look around for you and found absolutely nothing on the IGI or > FreeREG c. 1820 for a Frederick WILKINS. I couldn't even find his > marriage in 1848 in Dursley. You'll find the marriage here: > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ It took place in the Register Office. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Looking for information on the birth of Eliza Hall born about 1816 Todenham Gloucester. Eliza Hall's marriage records state that she is the daughter of William Granshaen/Granthem. Trying to figure out why her name is Eliza HALL and her father is Wm GRANTHEM? Her first marriage being 1842 and registered at the Chipping Norton Registry office. to James Marshall, He of Little Compton, Gloucester and she of Great Rollwright, Oxfordshire, a spinster. James passed away 1849 at Chastleton, Oxfordshire, and in the 1851 census of Chastleton, Oxfordshire, Eliza Hall Marshall's place of birth is listed as Todenham, Gloucester, and she being 35 years of age (would make her born 1816) The second marriage being to John Sweatman1857 by banns at Hook Norton, Oxfordshire. in the 1861 census Eliza Hall Sweatman is 44 born Todnam (sic) Gloucester in the 1871 census she is 54 born Toddenham (sic), Gloucester. Probably died about 1872-5 in Hook Norton, Oxfordshire. Appreciate any help! Brad

Hello I am new to this list. I am interested in the Hinson/Hynson family of Hunts Court Bageworth. I have traced Thomas Hinson from Oxford to Devon through his service with the Earl of Bath in the late 1500's. I have some wills from the family which are at Gloucester Records office & I know that the family were registered as Roman Catholics in 1717. After that I have no information on this branch. Is there anyone who can help? Thank you Zoe Martin

As there is preponderance of Biblical names in both families this might suggest a Non-Conformist background. This area of Gloucestershire had many Non-Conformist congregations. Personally I have concentrated on Shortwood Baptist Church, Horsley - the largest village Baptist congregation in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth century, with people travelling from the surrounding district to attend. There were some Biblical names amongst the congregation including Hepzibah and Barzillai but most of the name were usual English names even amongst the ministers' families. Cheers, Janet Heskins

There is a WILKINS family that lived in Horsley, that was closely connected to my HESKINS family. I dare say that the name is to be found in other villages surrounding the Dursley area. WILKINS is not an uncommon name. I have no evidence that it is anything other than of English origin, as other names with the suffix 'kins'. Cheers, Janet Heskins

Hi Tracey, I had a look around for you and found absolutely nothing on the IGI or FreeREG c. 1820 for a Frederick WILKINS. I couldn't even find his marriage in 1848 in Dursley. But on Family Search I found a Frederick WILKINS baptised 25 Dec 1832 Fairford, Gloucester, parents Richard & Mary Ann WILKINS. Batch No C04514-1, England ODM Film No. 856942. I realize this is a little later than you were looking for but Frederick may not have been baptised as a child. But I don't think he is your Frederick as he appears in the 1861 Census in Wales. That didn't surprise me as I do believe that WILKINS is a Welsh surname. Have you looked in Wales for his Baptism? Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! FULFORD_North Devon Group Owner/Moderator of Yahoo! DAVIDGE Connections Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Ives" <traceyives@gmail.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 9:47 PM Subject: [GLS] Wilkins/Vizard family > Hi, > > I am researching the Wilkins//Vizard family and I am hoping someone has a > few more resources than I do, to help locate these families > > Frederick Wilkins was born 1820 and it was thought in Gloucestershire, but > that now seems up for debate. He married Ann Vizard on the 16th January, > 1848 in Dursley, Gloucestershire. They had only one child we know of and > that was Aquilla Wilkins born March 1846 in Dursley, Gloucestershire. They > moved to Australia in December 1848. > > On an 1841 census I found Ann Vizard's family - Titus Vizard b1787, Labourer > (54) and his wife Bathsheba Vizard (b 1786), Ann (1821 )(20) and Jane Vizard > (aged 15) (All born in the same county - it states on the census. However > the current/living family thought that they may have immigrated from France > to flee the revolution in the late 1700's > > The Wilkins family I have had no luck with at all. They too were thought to > be from France, but the name doesn't suggest that. > > I would love to hear from anyone who can help me further. > > Regards > Tracey > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear all, My sincere apologies - when I posted this message I managed to corrupt my email address in the message text; it is sage_gen@tiscali.co.uk and not as given below. If you previously tried to email me and have not had reply, sorry - I didn't get it! Please can you re-send your message to my correct address. There is still plenty of room for more to come to the gathering on 15th October, so no-one need be worried! Best wishes, Ian On 09/08/2011 09:18, Ian Sage wrote: > Dear all, > > After a little discussion on and off different mailing lists, another > social and family history discussion meeting will be held this year on > October 15th at the Salthouse, Clevedon - the same venue as last > year. The Salthouse is easily accessible for those travelling from > the north, east or west by car; we can arrive from mid-morning, and > lunch will be available from their new menu (to be pre-ordered in due > course). For those bringing laptops, we are promised use of a few > extension leads and an internet connection. > > This is always a friendly event and you may even find yourself sitting > next to an unknown distant cousin. (I know I have!) All with an > interest in family history in the wider region of Bristol and the > surrounding counties of Somerset and Gloucestershire are very welcome; > if you want to attend or just to be kept informed about the event, > please contact me direct atsage_gen@tiscali.co.uk > > If you cannot attend, but would like to be added to our "absent > friends" list, also let me know by email and you can raise a glass > with us at 1:00pm UK time. > > Hoping to see as many of you as possible in October, > > Ian Sage > > > >> >> >

This came via another list - worth a look and signing if you are a UK citizen Adrian See: - http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1792 > Research Copies for Birth, Marriage & Death Certificates for > Genealogical Research Purposes > > Responsible department: Home Office

Sent to list earlier - I had omitted to use plain text sorry In addition I had not been able to locate the younger John KEYLOCK in births but did locate this which perhaps fits with the marriage name of GARLICK: Name: GARLIC John Mothers Maiden Name: BICKNELL Year: 1843 District: Cirencester Office: Tetbury, Tetbury Register Entry: 2 155 Gillian From: Gillian Taylor Shaw Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:22 PM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GLS] George Keylock b.1817 Bibury Hi I too have only come up with the exact same marriage, sadly the original hand written marriage register details on BMD have been replaced with typed version, having transcribed a while ago for BMD the volume and page numbers are critical in matching up marriage partners, however Gloucestershire BMD have: GARLICK George and BIGNALL Mary Anne at Cirencester Long Newnton Holy Trinity 1843 1 16 As you say Jan Mary's name fits, according to the census she uses the name Mary Ann as well as just Mary. I also noted Penny that the son John KEYLOCK born c1843 on the 1851 census is also listed as being born in Newton yet no birth registration or baptism is listed for him under this name, the nearest to this is in 1840 in the Cirencester registration district of which Long Newton fall into though this was much later I think, other than this one in 1841 the other is John Henry Keylock born in 1847 Northleach registration district. Best regards Gillian > From: tartania99@hotmail.co.uk > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:00:52 +0100 > Subject: Re: [GLS] George Keylock b.1817 Bibury > > > > Am trying to find a marriage for George Keylock b.1817 and a Mary A > > Bignell born 1821 in > > Long Newton, Wilts. Checking on the census the marriage should have > > taken place sometime > > before 1843 but am looked high and low but can find othing. > > Could it be Mary Ann BIGNALL and George GARLICK, married in Q1 1843 > Tetbury 11 467? > > That would be the correct registration district for Long Newnton. > > Regards, > > Jan > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:58:14 +0100 > > From: bignell693@btinternet.com > > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [GLS] George Keylock b.1817 Bibury > > > > Am trying to find a marriage for George Keylock b.1817 and a Mary A > > Bignell born 1821 in Long Newton, Wilts. Checking on the census the > > marriage should have taken place sometime before 1843 but am looked high > > and low but can find othing. > > > > Can anyone help please > > > > Penny Bignell > > _____________________________________________ > > > >

O dear, that should have been Irene Olive WHITTEN. Sorry, David On 30/08/2011, at 5:00 PM, David Daniell wrote: > Yes there is, Irene Olive Whitton, Stroud, March 1909, 6a 329 (!) > David > > > On 30/08/2011, at 4:56 PM, Colin Liddell wrote:

Yes there is, Irene Olive Whitton, Stroud, March 1909, 6a 329 (!) David

could  it  be  contemporary  for what  our  mothers   would have called   an  "afterthought"?....Heather --- On Tue, 30/8/11, June Chan <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> wrote: From: June Chan <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> Subject: [GLS] PORTLOCK, WHITTEN - Love Child To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 30, August, 2011, 4:14 PM In the 1911 Census for 29 St Catherine St, Gloucester I have the following: William Portlock, 40, born Gloucestershire Jane Portlock, wife, 44, married 16 years, born Tewkesbury William Portlock, son 14, born Gloucester Dorothy Portlock, daughter, 16, born Tewkesbury Olive Whitten love child, 2, born Painswick. The record states that William and Jane had been married 16 years, have had 2 births and both children were alive (presumably William and Dorthoy). All the information is written in the same hand, that of W Portlock. I have never seen a reference to a love child. On the transcription the child's name has been transcribed as CHILD, Olive Whitton Love I am trying to find out if this child is the child of William or of Dorothy but have been unable to find a record. If someone could give me pointers of where to look it would be appreciated. Thank you - June   _____________________________________________ Gloucestershire Family History Society: www.gfhs.org.uk Gloucestershire Archives: www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005:    http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes there is, Irene Olive Whitton, Stroud, March 1909, 6a 329 (!) David On 30/08/2011, at 4:56 PM, Colin Liddell wrote: > Interesting.........there is no birth for Olive WHITTEN or Olive PORTLOCK in > the FreeBMD. > > Colin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "June Chan" <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:14 PM > Subject: [GLS] PORTLOCK, WHITTEN - Love Child > > >> In the 1911 Census for 29 St Catherine St, Gloucester I have the >> following: >> >> William Portlock, 40, born Gloucestershire >> Jane Portlock, wife, 44, married 16 years, born Tewkesbury >> William Portlock, son 14, born Gloucester >> Dorothy Portlock, daughter, 16, born Tewkesbury >> Olive Whitten love child, 2, born Painswick. >> >> The record states that William and Jane had been married 16 years, have >> had >> 2 births and both children were alive (presumably William and Dorthoy). >> All >> the information is written in the same hand, that of W Portlock. >> >> I have never seen a reference to a love child. On the transcription the >> child's name has been transcribed as CHILD, Olive Whitton Love >> >> I am trying to find out if this child is the child of William or of >> Dorothy >> but have been unable to find a record. >> >> If someone could give me pointers of where to look it would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thank you - June >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Gloucestershire Family History Society: >> www.gfhs.org.uk >> >> Gloucestershire Archives: >> www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 >> >> Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: >> http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ shows the marriage for Mary Ann BIGNALL and George GARLICK to be at Holy Trinity, Long Newnton Hugh > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:58:14 +0100 >> From: bignell693@btinternet.com >> To: gloucester@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [GLS] George Keylock b.1817 Bibury >> >> Am trying to find a marriage for George Keylock b.1817 and a Mary A >> Bignell born 1821 in Long Newton, Wilts. Checking on the census the >> marriage should have taken place sometime before 1843 but am looked high >> and low but can find othing. >> >> Can anyone help please >> >> Penny Bignell >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Gloucestershire Family History Society: >> www.gfhs.org.uk >> >> Gloucestershire Archives: >> www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 >> >> Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: >> http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Aaah........so she had another christian name, makes it harder to find her.{;-) Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Daniell" <ddaniell@xtra.co.nz> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] PORTLOCK, WHITTEN - Love Child > Yes there is, Irene Olive Whitton, Stroud, March 1909, 6a 329 (!) > David > > > On 30/08/2011, at 4:56 PM, Colin Liddell wrote: > >> Interesting.........there is no birth for Olive WHITTEN or Olive PORTLOCK >> in >> the FreeBMD. >> >> Colin. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "June Chan" <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> >> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:14 PM >> Subject: [GLS] PORTLOCK, WHITTEN - Love Child >> >> >>> In the 1911 Census for 29 St Catherine St, Gloucester I have the >>> following: >>> >>> William Portlock, 40, born Gloucestershire >>> Jane Portlock, wife, 44, married 16 years, born Tewkesbury >>> William Portlock, son 14, born Gloucester >>> Dorothy Portlock, daughter, 16, born Tewkesbury >>> Olive Whitten love child, 2, born Painswick. >>> >>> The record states that William and Jane had been married 16 years, have >>> had >>> 2 births and both children were alive (presumably William and Dorthoy). >>> All >>> the information is written in the same hand, that of W Portlock. >>> >>> I have never seen a reference to a love child. On the transcription the >>> child's name has been transcribed as CHILD, Olive Whitton Love >>> >>> I am trying to find out if this child is the child of William or of >>> Dorothy >>> but have been unable to find a record. >>> >>> If someone could give me pointers of where to look it would be >>> appreciated. >>> >>> Thank you - June >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> Gloucestershire Family History Society: >>> www.gfhs.org.uk >>> >>> Gloucestershire Archives: >>> www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 >>> >>> Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: >>> http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Gloucestershire Family History Society: >> www.gfhs.org.uk >> >> Gloucestershire Archives: >> www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 >> >> Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: >> http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting.........there is no birth for Olive WHITTEN or Olive PORTLOCK in the FreeBMD. Colin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Chan" <mai_ling@aapt.net.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 2:14 PM Subject: [GLS] PORTLOCK, WHITTEN - Love Child > In the 1911 Census for 29 St Catherine St, Gloucester I have the > following: > > William Portlock, 40, born Gloucestershire > Jane Portlock, wife, 44, married 16 years, born Tewkesbury > William Portlock, son 14, born Gloucester > Dorothy Portlock, daughter, 16, born Tewkesbury > Olive Whitten love child, 2, born Painswick. > > The record states that William and Jane had been married 16 years, have > had > 2 births and both children were alive (presumably William and Dorthoy). > All > the information is written in the same hand, that of W Portlock. > > I have never seen a reference to a love child. On the transcription the > child's name has been transcribed as CHILD, Olive Whitton Love > > I am trying to find out if this child is the child of William or of > Dorothy > but have been unable to find a record. > > If someone could give me pointers of where to look it would be > appreciated. > > Thank you - June > > > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the 1911 Census for 29 St Catherine St, Gloucester I have the following: William Portlock, 40, born Gloucestershire Jane Portlock, wife, 44, married 16 years, born Tewkesbury William Portlock, son 14, born Gloucester Dorothy Portlock, daughter, 16, born Tewkesbury Olive Whitten love child, 2, born Painswick. The record states that William and Jane had been married 16 years, have had 2 births and both children were alive (presumably William and Dorthoy). All the information is written in the same hand, that of W Portlock. I have never seen a reference to a love child. On the transcription the child's name has been transcribed as CHILD, Olive Whitton Love I am trying to find out if this child is the child of William or of Dorothy but have been unable to find a record. If someone could give me pointers of where to look it would be appreciated. Thank you - June

> Am trying to find a marriage for George Keylock b.1817 and a Mary A Bignell born 1821 in > Long Newton, Wilts. Checking on the census the marriage should have taken place sometime > before 1843 but am looked high and low but can find othing. Could it be Mary Ann BIGNALL and George GARLICK, married in Q1 1843 Tetbury 11 467? That would be the correct registration district for Long Newnton. Regards, Jan ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:58:14 +0100 > From: bignell693@btinternet.com > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLS] George Keylock b.1817 Bibury > > Am trying to find a marriage for George Keylock b.1817 and a Mary A Bignell born 1821 in Long Newton, Wilts. Checking on the census the marriage should have taken place sometime before 1843 but am looked high and low but can find othing. > > Can anyone help please > > Penny Bignell > _____________________________________________ > > Gloucestershire Family History Society: > www.gfhs.org.uk > > Gloucestershire Archives: > www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=15434 > > Gloucestershire BMD Index 1837 to 2005: > http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Am trying to find a marriage for George Keylock b.1817 and a Mary A Bignell born 1821 in Long Newton, Wilts.  Checking on the census the marriage should have taken place sometime before 1843 but am looked high and low but can find othing.   Can anyone help please   Penny Bignell

Or, the child could be that of the 16-year-old daughter, by a fellow named Whitten. Or another relative's child out of wedlock. Only the child's birth certificate will identify the mother, or perhaps even the father. ________________________________