On 08 Jan, IAN LOGAN <ianlogan@btopenworld.com> wrote: > Hello listers. Can anyone help me with a family ancestor puzzle ? > Harriett Pick married Robert Call in Clifton, Bristol in 1820. > All census records for Harriett give her birthplace as Bramham or > Boston, Yorks ( both close to Wetherby) and a birthdate of about 1798. > No baptism for Harriett was found when searches were made for me in the > Bramham/Boston parish registers - though several Pick families , mostly > stonemasons, lived there at that time. > 2. Does anyone know of any link between the Yorkshire ( Wetherby area) > PICKS and the Gloucestershire ( Cromhall, Berkeley area) PICKS ? Hi Ian, It's a very long shot and probably a red herring, but the clue may lie in quarrying. You say there were PICK families in Yorkshire who were stonemasons. Well, there were quarries in the Cromhall area. The PICK family goes back a long way in Cromhall. John PICK died on 29th. August 1705, aged 55, and Elizabeth, his wife, died on 12th. March 1723 aged 70. Josephine -- Josephine's Books, Ian's Pages, The Clutton 'Do' and the Glamorganshire Canal. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Can anyone please tell me where Pilley Village is or was in Leckhampton. I know the Shurdington Road, Commercial Street and around that area, although vaguely. Many thanks Pauline

Ian, I don't know if this helps at all but there is an Elizabeth PICK in the 1841 census of Cromhall Abbots who might be interesting to you as she is shown as not born in the county, see below: HO107/347/14, folio 5, page 3 Hayes Cottage, Cromhall Elizth PICK 70 Ind Born in the county no Mary ROWE 30 Do no There are a lot of PICKs in the 1841 of Cromhall, but Elizabeth, aged 70 is the only one not born in the county. Unfortunately, she seems to have died before the 1851 census, so I cannot tell where she was born. Sorry not to be of more help. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "IAN LOGAN" <ianlogan@btopenworld.com> To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: [GLS] PICK Harriett - baptised 12 Sep 1797, Cromhall, Gloucs. > Hello listers. Can anyone help me with a family ancestor puzzle ? > > Harriett Pick married Robert Call in Clifton, Bristol in 1820. I have good > information on Robert ( birth to death) and good information about > Harriett and their children from 1820 onwards. But I am having difficulty > with Harriett's birth and hence her ancestors. > > All census records for Harriett give her birthplace as Bramham or Boston, > Yorks ( both close to Wetherby) and a birthdate of about 1798. No baptism > for Harriett was found when searches were made for me in the > Bramham/Boston parish registers - though several Pick families , mostly > stonemasons, lived there at that time. > > But the IGI does give a Harriett Pick baptism in September 1797 in > CROMHALL, Gloucs. Two other baptisms for the same parents, William Pick > and Elizabeth Pick ( possibly nee Burley ), are listed ie Elizabeth Pick > bap Aug 1799 Cromhall and Elizabeth Pick (again) bap May 1811 Cromhall. I > noted that there are several other Pick families living in the Cromhall > area at that time. > > I am wondering if "my" Harriett Pick was born in Bramham but then baptised > shortly afterwards in Cromhall eg to parents who moved from Yorkshire to > Gloucs. > > Two specific queries : > > 1. Does anyone have access to the full baptism record for Harriett Pick 12 > Sep 1797 Cromhall ? It might help me. > > 2. Does anyone know of any link between the Yorkshire ( Wetherby area) > PICKS and the Gloucestershire ( Cromhall, Berkeley area) PICKS ? > > Thanks > Ian Logan > ianlogan@btopenworld.com > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 07/01/2007 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 6405 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Re: OSBORNE William & STRONG Sarah, Pip & Jay, Bristol, 1827 On 09 Jan, SOMERS <somers@igrin.co.nz> wrote: > Thank you Josephine for your help. I am so delighted and now off to > look up some of the links you included. It must be my lucky day! :-)) Hi Sandra, Thank you for your very prompt response. It is your lucky day, if you don't already have these further snippets, below, on Harriet, the wife of your George OSBORNE:-) You wrote: > Harriet was born September 1831 in Bristol, GLC (Father John JEFFERIES > and Mother Harriet BEAUMONT) Harriet JEFFERIES, the daughter of John and Harriet, was baptized on 17th. October 1830 at St. Peter's Church, Bristol. Abode was Merchant's Court and father's occupation was waiter. (N.B. Have just checked 1830 is correct, though you have her birth year as 1831.) This baptism is included on the Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols 1 to 7 Index and Transcripts 1813-1837, which is available on CD from Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk A picture of St. Peter's Church is on my web site on the following web page: http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/places/bristol/churches/08.htm John JEFFERIS (sic), bachelor, and Harriet BEAUMONT, spinster, were married, by banns, on 16th. October 1825 at St. Mary Redcliffe Church, Bristol. This marriage is included in the Marriage Index Vol 8 Diocese of Bristol 1813-1837, which is available on CD from Bristol & Avon Family History Society www.bafh.org.uk Pictures of St. Mary Redcliffe Church are on my web site on the following web page: http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/places/bristol/churches/07.htm Josephine -- Josephine's Books, Ian's Pages, The Clutton 'Do' and the Glamorganshire Canal. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

On 09 Jan, SOMERS <somers@igrin.co.nz> wrote: > I'm now looking for William OSBORNE and Sarah STRONG (perhaps STRANG), > parents of my gr.gr.grandfather George OSBORNE. > > George was born 10th June 1828 in Bristol GLC (date not confirmed but > all other documentation states place of birth as Bristol. Hi Sandra, William OSBORNE and Sarah STRONG were married, by banns, on 5th. August 1827, at the church of St. Philip & St. Jacob, Bristol. Both were of the parish. This marriage is included in the Marriage Index Vol 8 Diocese of Bristol 1813-1837, which is available on CD from Bristol & Avon Family History Society www.bafh.org.uk George OSBORNE, son of William and Sarah, was baptized on 6th. July 1828 at the church of St. Philip & St. Jacob, Bristol. Abode was Bedminster and father's occupation was porter. This baptism is included on the Bristol Diocese Baptismal Registers Vols 1 to 7 Index and Transcripts 1813-1837, which is available on CD from Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk A picture of the church of St. Philip and St. Jacob (Pip & Jay) is on my web site on the following web page: http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/places/bristol/churches/04.htm Josephine -- Josephine's Books, Ian's Pages, The Clutton 'Do' and the Glamorganshire Canal. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I was also born in Pilley in 1937. Nice to hear your recolections of the area Colin. I have several books written about the Leckhampton area and like to go back and read them once in a while to bring back those childhood memories. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <CScarrett@aol.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] Pilley Village, Leckhampton > Hi Pauline > > I was born in Pilley Crescent in 1936. During the war everyone was > evacuated after a bomb had fallen through a house 2 doors down from us but > had not > exploded. The same night the railway bridge near Pilley was bombed and > for > many years after the war there was a narrow bridge for pedestrians. > There > was a field at the bottom of the Crescent that was open for kids to play. > This field butted up to the Delancy Hospital. At that time this was an > isolation hospital - I was in there for 6 weeks with Scarlet Fever. > > Colin > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My maternal grandmother's first child was christened 'Hartley Seymour Cambridge' b 1888. The Christian names do not appear anywhere else in the family tree and seem strange choices. Anyone any ideas? Colin

I have a Thomas Lewellin 6n the 1871 census-living with my ggrandparents ,Thomas and Harriett Porter 168 Hotwell Rd-Thomas Lewellin-boarder-unmarried-19-R.N .H M L Ganger-can't quite make out birthplace but it's Bristol Lindsay

Hi Pauline I was born in Pilley Crescent in 1936. During the war everyone was evacuated after a bomb had fallen through a house 2 doors down from us but had not exploded. The same night the railway bridge near Pilley was bombed and for many years after the war there was a narrow bridge for pedestrians. There was a field at the bottom of the Crescent that was open for kids to play. This field butted up to the Delancy Hospital. At that time this was an isolation hospital - I was in there for 6 weeks with Scarlet Fever. Colin

Jane, In 1876 Alfred BUTCHER married Hannah HILL and they had 6 children born in Cam, Stinchcombe and/or Berkeley. My interest in this is that Hannah HILL was the daughter of Henry & Sarah HILL (nee RUDDER) and the sister of my great grandfather, John HILL. In May 1879 Albert & Hannah BUTCHER witnessed John's marriage to Mary Susanna HADLEY a widow, 10 years his senior with 5 surviving children from her first marriage. John had celebrated his 21st birthday in April 1879 and completing his apprenticeship became free to marry Mary Susanna which was probably just as well because they already had a daughter! Is Albert BUTCHER connected with your BUTCHERs? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Slowgrove" <janeslowgrove@yahoo.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] WORLOCK< SLOWGROVE< BUTCHER<RICHARDSON<ANDREWS<PHILLIPS,et al > Dear Laurence > > My Butchers are from the Cam area some moved on to Broadway, > Worcestershire and Hereford the rest stayed in the Cam area. I hope this > helps > > Thank you again > Jane > > Laurence E Stephenson <laurencestephenson@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 6/01/2007 4:11:14 PM > > >> Gloucestershire - BUTCHER, ANDREWS, PHILLIPS, HART, GLADWIN, >> COSSHAM, WORLOCK, > > Hi Jane, > > > Like to expand on your Butcher of Glocestershire > > > > "May all your brick walls be little ones." > -- > Regards, > Laurence E Stephenson > > http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/lauries/web/index.html > > I am Researching:- > Butcher...........Stroud, Gloucestershire, England..................>1856 > Fortune...........Berwickshire, > Scotland................................>1858 > Garlick............Liverpool, Lancashire, > England......................>1863 > Mee................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland > (Palatine)................>1884 > Payne..............Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England........>1863 > Ritchie............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, > Scotland..................>1860 > Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England .......................>1856 > Wittick............(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England........>1822 > > Heartnet = Heart support = http://heartnet.cci.ecu.edu.au/ > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

look like St Nicholas http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/chu-06.asp possible BMD Name: Thomas Llewellin Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bristol County: Avon, Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 20 East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

Hello listers. Can anyone help me with a family ancestor puzzle ? Harriett Pick married Robert Call in Clifton, Bristol in 1820. I have good information on Robert ( birth to death) and good information about Harriett and their children from 1820 onwards. But I am having difficulty with Harriett's birth and hence her ancestors. All census records for Harriett give her birthplace as Bramham or Boston, Yorks ( both close to Wetherby) and a birthdate of about 1798. No baptism for Harriett was found when searches were made for me in the Bramham/Boston parish registers - though several Pick families , mostly stonemasons, lived there at that time. But the IGI does give a Harriett Pick baptism in September 1797 in CROMHALL, Gloucs. Two other baptisms for the same parents, William Pick and Elizabeth Pick ( possibly nee Burley ), are listed ie Elizabeth Pick bap Aug 1799 Cromhall and Elizabeth Pick (again) bap May 1811 Cromhall. I noted that there are several other Pick families living in the Cromhall area at that time. I am wondering if "my" Harriett Pick was born in Bramham but then baptised shortly afterwards in Cromhall eg to parents who moved from Yorkshire to Gloucs. Two specific queries : 1. Does anyone have access to the full baptism record for Harriett Pick 12 Sep 1797 Cromhall ? It might help me. 2. Does anyone know of any link between the Yorkshire ( Wetherby area) PICKS and the Gloucestershire ( Cromhall, Berkeley area) PICKS ? Thanks Ian Logan ianlogan@btopenworld.com

Very many thanks for the 1901 census details - a great help to me - I can now work backwards and see if they tie in with the rest of the family I am seeking. Most grateful to you. Margery ----- Original Message ----- From: " 'arry Stottle }{((((º>" <slowhands@onetel.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] MEADOWS Gloucester > I think this is a contender ! > > > 1901 14 Wellesley St > > William Meadows abt 1846 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Head > Gloucester > Gloucestershire > Lucy Meadows abt 1867 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Wife > Gloucester Gloucestershire > Roy Meadows abt 1899 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester > Gloucestershire > William Meadows abt 1900 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son > Gloucester Gloucestershire > > > > > East of London FHS member > All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Mail was checked for spam by the Freeware Edition of No Spam Today! > The Freeware Edition is free for personal and non-commercial use. > You can remove this notice by purchasing a full license! To order > or to find out more please visit: http://www.nospamtoday.com

This is NOT the Workhouse but a quirk of the original entry where the Superintendent Registrars District has been entered as "The Cheltenham Union" meaning that the district comes within the area covered by the Cheltenham Registration District which was the same as the Cheltenham Poor Law Union District Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: [GLS] 1841 census query > Hello all > > I have been looking at the 1841 via findmypast.com and for some entries I > have found 'Cheltenham Union' and then an address as High Street. Does > this > mean the workhouse, which I did not think was in the High Street, or if > not, > can someone explain please? > > Pauline > Tamworth, Staffs > > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Laurence My Butchers are from the Cam area some moved on to Broadway, Worcestershire and Hereford the rest stayed in the Cam area. I hope this helps Thank you again Jane Laurence E Stephenson <laurencestephenson@gmail.com> wrote: 6/01/2007 4:11:14 PM > Gloucestershire - BUTCHER, ANDREWS, PHILLIPS, HART, GLADWIN, > COSSHAM, WORLOCK, Hi Jane, Like to expand on your Butcher of Glocestershire "May all your brick walls be little ones." -- Regards, Laurence E Stephenson http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/lauries/web/index.html I am Researching:- Butcher...........Stroud, Gloucestershire, England..................>1856 Fortune...........Berwickshire, Scotland................................>1858 Garlick............Liverpool, Lancashire, England......................>1863 Mee................Kilflyn, Limerick, Ireland (Palatine)................>1884 Payne..............Washingborough, Lincolnshire, England........>1863 Ritchie............Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland..................>1860 Stephenson.....Pickering, Yorkshire, England .......................>1856 Wittick............(Convict) Walsall, Staffordshire, England........>1822 Heartnet = Heart support = http://heartnet.cci.ecu.edu.au/ _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

The Union Workhouse has its own enumeration book/district in 1841 Its location is between St Paul's Rd and Back St ( Swindon Rd) If you can give an example I'll look up the image and see if I can confirm the Union / High St location East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

Hello all I have been looking at the 1841 via findmypast.com and for some entries I have found 'Cheltenham Union' and then an address as High Street. Does this mean the workhouse, which I did not think was in the High Street, or if not, can someone explain please? Pauline Tamworth, Staffs

Pauline, Have you checked the details on the Workhouse site? http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Cheltenham/ Anne On 8 Jan 2007, at 12:52, Pauline Roberts wrote: > Hello all > > I have been looking at the 1841 via findmypast.com and for some > entries I > have found 'Cheltenham Union' and then an address as High Street. > Does this > mean the workhouse, which I did not think was in the High Street, or > if not, > can someone explain please? > > Pauline > Tamworth, Staffs > >

I think this is a contender ! 1901 14 Wellesley St William Meadows abt 1846 Malvern, Worcestershire, England Head Gloucester Gloucestershire Lucy Meadows abt 1867 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester Gloucestershire Roy Meadows abt 1899 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Gloucestershire William Meadows abt 1900 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Gloucestershire East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

Anne - I appreciate your help and certainly will be applying for the Certificates. Very many thanks, Margery - Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] MEADOWS and LLEWELLYNS of Stroud and Gloucester Sorry, Can't find Henry Fitzroy meadows on the 1901 census with parents Lucy Alice's birth is on Free BMD Births Sep 1904 MEADOWS Lucy Alice Gloucester 6a 348 as is Henry Fitzroy's Births Sep 1898 MEADOWS Henry Fitz Roy Gloucester 6a 299 Getting one birth certificate would give you parents - and both would confirm the realtionship. Sorry not to help more Anne On 31 Dec 2006, at 12:30, Margery Whitham wrote: > I am trying to piece together the above families. > > In particular I would like to find a Henry LLEWELLYN born Stroud > c.1862. He married a Sarah Ann GILLMAN and they had possibly six > children. I have found Henry in the 1881 census living in Stroud > with wife Sarah but cannot find him mentioned in the 1871 census. > There is mention of a Henry age 2 living with a CHANDLER family but > their ages do not tie up. > > Regarding the MEADOWS family I would like to find the parents of Lucy > Alice MEADOWS born Gloucester in 1904. I believe she had a brother > Henry Fitzroy born Gloucester 1898. > > If anyone is able to help me I would be most grateful. > > Margery _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------ Mail was checked for spam by the Freeware Edition of No Spam Today! The Freeware Edition is free for personal and non-commercial use. You can remove this notice by purchasing a full license! To order or to find out more please visit: http://www.nospamtoday.com