Lin, One possibility is a railway job. The Midland Railway, inits early days, moved employees all over the network, and the line from Derby to Bristol ran through Glos. Jeff On Sun, 28 January, 2007 5:36 pm, Lcsearchline@aol.com wrote: > Hi, I am new to this list, but am trying to trace any record of my Gt Gt > Gt > grandfather, Philemon Harrison. Philemon lived for most of his life in > Derbyshire and in 1851 he was still living in Derbyshire. However, I > have lost track of him after that, and the only death record I can find in > the name of Philemon Harrison is in 1859 in Cheltenham, Glos. > > > I've no idea why he would have gone to Cheltenham, if indeed this is the > my Philemon, but if anyone has any ideas or any connection, or even know > where I can find out more information I'd be very grateful. > > Thanks, Lin > _____________________________________________ > > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I found them on the 1851, have you found Ann after that date? Bye Maureen -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of David Jones Sent: 28 January 2007 19:48 To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLS] HARRISON Hi Lin, It look like the right man, on 1841 Philemon Harrison 25 Bricklayer Mary 25 ( not May my mistake ) Emma 5 John 18 months Regards David _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lin, It look like the right man, on 1841 Philemon Harrison 25 Bricklayer Mary 25 ( not May my mistake ) Emma 5 John 18 months Regards David

It this him of 1851 census ? Ancestry had him as Philmore Harrison Ashburn Road, Derby St Werburgh Philemon Harrison 38 Brick Layer May 39 Emma 15 John 11 Frederick 8 Thomas 6 Ann 2 Harriet 1 month Regards David

Can anyone from the list tell me how to get a photo copy of a marriage certificate for a marriage which occurred prior to 1837? I believe my 3rd great grandparents were married in 1819 in St Mary de Lode, but really need to look at a certificate or a copy of the entry in the register to confirm. Thanks, Jim

Hi Margery, Fooks is an area of Horsley. Horsley parish is made up of a number of hamlets, Horsley village and the larger, more industrial, area of Nailsworth. It was possible to gain access to the 1851 census of Horsley/Nailsworth via the Internet at one time. If you can gain access the Enumerators schedules should be included. There is a Nailsworth website on which you might be able to post a question.... >From the 1811/1815 list of householders there did seem to be a lot of GILLMAN boys to 'carry on the name'. Cheers, Janet Heskins

Thanks so much David, this could very well be my Philemon! Very kind of you to look for me I do appreciate it. Regards, Lin

Hi, I am new to this list, but am trying to trace any record of my Gt Gt Gt grandfather, Philemon Harrison. Philemon lived for most of his life in Derbyshire and in 1851 he was still living in Derbyshire. However, I have lost track of him after that, and the only death record I can find in the name of Philemon Harrison is in 1859 in Cheltenham, Glos. I've no idea why he would have gone to Cheltenham, if indeed this is the my Philemon, but if anyone has any ideas or any connection, or even know where I can find out more information I'd be very grateful. Thanks, Lin

Very many thanks for details of burials in Shortwood graveyard - most helpful information and much appreciated. Margery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Jack" <ejack@gloster.demon.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] GILLMAN of Horsley > There were quite a few GILMAN?GILLMAN burials in the Shortwood Baptist > Church graveyard: > > Surname / Forename / Year / Day / Month / Age / Member / Notes > GILLMAM Tamar 1818 3 Dec 59 Or SMITH > GILLMAN Bertha 1902 22 Mar 14m > GILLMAN Hannah 1828 20 Apr 27 > GILLMAN Martha 1846 13 Feb 63 > GILLMAN Mary 1850 1 Dec 42 > GILLMAN Richard 1850 8 Feb 68 > GILLMAN 1828 24 Apr Inf Hannah's > GILMAN Rebeckah 1832 9 Jun 44 M > GILMAN 1830 15 Dec 6 > William's infant > > Liz > __________________________________ > > Hidden Heritage : www.gloster.demon.co.uk > Researching : BLINKHORNE/BLENKARN/SOSBE > GWINNETT/RANN > PHILPOTT & PURDON only in Ireland > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Margery Whitham [mailto:margery@whitham.name] >> Sent: 26 January 2007 13:17 >> To: gloucester@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [GLS] GILLMAN of Horsley >> >> Thank you so much, Gillian and Pat, for your help in tracing Francis > GILLMAN or >> GELLMAN. It seems now that "Joseph" was an error on the census. > Thank you >> for pointing me to the Batch No. - lots of names to go through and > hopefully I can >> sort out Francis's family. >> >> I very much appreciate you help. >> >> Margery > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Mail was checked for spam by the Freeware Edition of No Spam Today! > The Freeware Edition is free for personal and non-commercial use. > You can remove this notice by purchasing a full license! To order > or to find out more please visit: http://www.nospamtoday.com

With the help of Gillian, John, Pat, Elizabeth and Liz (burials) I have now made great progress with the GILLMANS - my thanks to you all. Margery

Hi Margery, As I was not able to help with the GILLMANs mentioned in your original message I have not sent any of the information that I have regarding people with this name. >From the List Of Horsley Residents 1811-1815 Benjamin GILLMAN, weaver, 3 males, 4 females in household, Horsley, Landlord Thomas GILLMAN, weaver, 5 males, 5 females, Horsley, Tenant. John GILLMAN, cordwinder, 4 males, 3 females, Horsley, Landlord. Ann GILLMAN, widow, no males, one female, Horsley, Landlady. Richard GILLMAN, weaver, 4 males, 2 females, Horsley, Landlord. Joseph GILLMAN, weaver, 4 males, 4 females, Horsley Tenant [two families]. John GILLMAN, gardener, one male, one female, Horsley, Tenant. This extract contains a large proportion of Land owners compared with the total population. >From The Shortwood Members' Book: Joseph GILLMAN was baptised as an adult on 7th November 1784. Ann GILLMAN, nee SWAIN 16th February 1777. Richard GILLMAN, 9th May 1806, lived at Fooks John GILLMAN, 25th August 1811, lived at Washpool Rebekah GILLMAN, 25th August 1811, lived at Washpool/Downend. Martha GILLMAN, 10th May 1812, lived at Fooks. Mary GILLMAN, 1st October, 1829, lived at Fooks. Also: Hannah GILLMAN HIDE baptised 5th December 1853 Elizabeth GILLMAN FORDS, lived at Kings Stanley, moved to Oxford 1848. I hope that this will help rather than cause confusion..... Cheers, Janet Heskins

Hello John I guess you must have been a bit quick in signing off from your last message, as the URL is incomplete. Of course *YOU* know the full URL, as you are one of the officers of GFHS - but, in case anyone else needs to know, it is: http://www.gfhs.org.uk/ Yes, that ".UK" at the end is all-important; otherwise you end up going to the GREAT FALLS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, Virginia, USA - as I just did. LOL!! Regards Ruth Curtis Adelaide, South Australia This email has been checked by Norton AntiVirus 2006 ============================================================================ On Saturday, 27 January 2007 2:28 AM, John Excell wrote: Margery Found this at our resource centre today Francis Gillman married Ann Parsloe St Martin Horsley 1843 Gloucestershire Family History Society will search their marriage indexes for Cheltenham, Cirencester,Gloucester and Stroud see http://www.gfhs.org John Excell ============================================================================

Hello Laura Thanks for your response to my query of 24 Jan. I will pursue your suggestion - looks promising. Slow response, by the way, was because your email got trapped by my Spam Blocker - I found it on the Rootsweb archive search. This trapping seems to be a bit of a problem. Do any of your Gloucestershire PICKS have a Yorkshire ( Wetherby/Bramham area) connection ? Cheers and thanks. Ian ianlogan@btopenworld.com

Can you help please, I am seeking to dicover why a family entry on the IGI connects the Whites of Quinton in North Gloucestershire with the marriage of William White to Jane Elliotts in 1808 at Cam and others also in Cam. If you are able to help I would be very grateful, Regards, Bob Simmonds _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

There were quite a few GILMAN?GILLMAN burials in the Shortwood Baptist Church graveyard: Surname / Forename / Year / Day / Month / Age / Member / Notes GILLMAM Tamar 1818 3 Dec 59 Or SMITH GILLMAN Bertha 1902 22 Mar 14m GILLMAN Hannah 1828 20 Apr 27 GILLMAN Martha 1846 13 Feb 63 GILLMAN Mary 1850 1 Dec 42 GILLMAN Richard 1850 8 Feb 68 GILLMAN 1828 24 Apr Inf Hannah's GILMAN Rebeckah 1832 9 Jun 44 M GILMAN 1830 15 Dec 6 William's infant Liz __________________________________ Hidden Heritage : www.gloster.demon.co.uk Researching : BLINKHORNE/BLENKARN/SOSBE GWINNETT/RANN PHILPOTT & PURDON only in Ireland > -----Original Message----- > From: Margery Whitham [mailto:margery@whitham.name] > Sent: 26 January 2007 13:17 > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLS] GILLMAN of Horsley > > Thank you so much, Gillian and Pat, for your help in tracing Francis GILLMAN or > GELLMAN. It seems now that "Joseph" was an error on the census. Thank you > for pointing me to the Batch No. - lots of names to go through and hopefully I can > sort out Francis's family. > > I very much appreciate you help. > > Margery

John, Very many thanks for confirming the date of the marriage of Francis and Ann Parsloe/Parslow - I'm now well on my way to sorting out the Gillmans! Margery ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Excell" <jxl284@tiscali.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census > Margery > Found this at our resource centre today > Francis Gillman married Ann Parsloe St Martin Horsley 1843 > > Gloucestershire Family History Society will search their marriage indexes > for Cheltenham, Cirencester,Gloucester and Stroud > see http://www.gfhs.org > John Excell > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census > > >> Margery, >> >> I think there might have been two people called Francis GILLMAN born in >> Horsley at about the same time. >> >>>From the 1841 Census of Horsley - as they were asked to approximate their >> ages to the nearest 5 years downwards the first is most likely and >> Gillian >> has sent you a transcription of the entry. >> >> Francis Gellman abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Horsley >> Gloucestershire >> Francis Gillman abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Horsley >> Gloucestershire >> >> There is an adult christening of a Francis Henry GILLMAN s/o Richard & >> Martha 1 May 1836 at >> Horsley - see IGI >> >> This looks like the marriage of a Francis GILLMAN in 1843 >> Presumably to the Ann with the multiple choice of surnames: >> >> Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%) >> BENNETT Esther Stroud 11 505 >> BRINKWORTH Richard Stroud 11 505 >> CLINCH Alexander Stroud 11 505 >> EARL Mary Stroud 11 505 >> GILLMAN Francis Stroud 11 505 >> HARVEY Elizabeth Stroud 11 505 >> PARSLOE Ann Stroud 11 505 >> PARSLOO Ann Stroud 11 505 >> PARSLOV Ann Stroud 11 505 >> WHITE Edward Stroud 11 505 >> >> A marriage certificate should show Francis's father. But the IGI shows a >> marriage between Francis Henry GILLMAN and Ann PARSLOW 13 Aug 1843 at >> Horsley. >> Both the christening and the marriage are on Batch Numbers P018101 & >> M018101 >> >> There are 7 christenings in Horsley for children of Francis & Ann - the >> last one being in 1863 so it looks as if the "Joseph" on the 1861 census >> is an aberration. >> >> Have a good look at www.familysearch.org I think you'll find a lot to >> interest you. >> >> Pat >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Margery Whitham" <margery@whitham.name> >> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:25 PM >> Subject: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census >> >> >>>I am puzzled by the following:- >>> >>> I am looking for a Francis GILLMAN born c1818 in Horsley. I can't >>> find him in the 1841 census but in 1851 he is aged 33, a sawyer and >>> living with wife Ann age 27. >>> In the 1861 there is no Francis but his wife Ann is mentioned with >>> "Joseph" named as head. >>> In 1871 Francis pops up again as a widower. >>> >>> I wondered if perhaps Francis had died and Ann had remarried (Joseph) by >>> 1861 but as Francis reappears in 1871 this can't be the case. >>> >>> In 1881 Joseph is shown as aged 63 (correct) - same place of birth and >>> occupation as Francis. >>> >>> I have looked at this so many times - am I misreading something? >>> >>> If someone could kindly spare a little time to check the above for me I >>> would be so grateful. >>> >>> Margery >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> Browse the list archives at: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >>> >>> Keyword search - any or all lists: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Mail was checked for spam by the Freeware Edition of No Spam Today! > The Freeware Edition is free for personal and non-commercial use. > You can remove this notice by purchasing a full license! To order > or to find out more please visit: http://www.nospamtoday.com

The correct URL for Gloucestershire Family History Society is http://www.gfhs.org.uk/ Sorry John Excell

Hi All Researching Joachim in Gloucester, mainly Chedworth 1805 - 1873 Jane :o)

Margery Found this at our resource centre today Francis Gillman married Ann Parsloe St Martin Horsley 1843 Gloucestershire Family History Society will search their marriage indexes for Cheltenham, Cirencester,Gloucester and Stroud see http://www.gfhs.org John Excell ---- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census > Margery, > > I think there might have been two people called Francis GILLMAN born in > Horsley at about the same time. > >>From the 1841 Census of Horsley - as they were asked to approximate their > ages to the nearest 5 years downwards the first is most likely and Gillian > has sent you a transcription of the entry. > > Francis Gellman abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Horsley > Gloucestershire > Francis Gillman abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Horsley > Gloucestershire > > There is an adult christening of a Francis Henry GILLMAN s/o Richard & > Martha 1 May 1836 at > Horsley - see IGI > > This looks like the marriage of a Francis GILLMAN in 1843 > Presumably to the Ann with the multiple choice of surnames: > > Marriages Sep 1843 (>99%) > BENNETT Esther Stroud 11 505 > BRINKWORTH Richard Stroud 11 505 > CLINCH Alexander Stroud 11 505 > EARL Mary Stroud 11 505 > GILLMAN Francis Stroud 11 505 > HARVEY Elizabeth Stroud 11 505 > PARSLOE Ann Stroud 11 505 > PARSLOO Ann Stroud 11 505 > PARSLOV Ann Stroud 11 505 > WHITE Edward Stroud 11 505 > > A marriage certificate should show Francis's father. But the IGI shows a > marriage between Francis Henry GILLMAN and Ann PARSLOW 13 Aug 1843 at > Horsley. > Both the christening and the marriage are on Batch Numbers P018101 & > M018101 > > There are 7 christenings in Horsley for children of Francis & Ann - the > last one being in 1863 so it looks as if the "Joseph" on the 1861 census > is an aberration. > > Have a good look at www.familysearch.org I think you'll find a lot to > interest you. > > Pat > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margery Whitham" <margery@whitham.name> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:25 PM > Subject: [GLS] GILLMAN - 1841 & 1861 census > > >>I am puzzled by the following:- >> >> I am looking for a Francis GILLMAN born c1818 in Horsley. I can't >> find him in the 1841 census but in 1851 he is aged 33, a sawyer and >> living with wife Ann age 27. >> In the 1861 there is no Francis but his wife Ann is mentioned with >> "Joseph" named as head. >> In 1871 Francis pops up again as a widower. >> >> I wondered if perhaps Francis had died and Ann had remarried (Joseph) by >> 1861 but as Francis reappears in 1871 this can't be the case. >> >> In 1881 Joseph is shown as aged 63 (correct) - same place of birth and >> occupation as Francis. >> >> I have looked at this so many times - am I misreading something? >> >> If someone could kindly spare a little time to check the above for me I >> would be so grateful. >> >> Margery >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >

Dear Eveline, V BEN BLOXHAM, was the submitter for the Ancestral File submission on LDS for the John BLOXHAM who was christened at Ashchurch in 1709. He is no longer living. He was a genealogist who taught genealogy classes on a university level, published books on the subject, and led tours to Great Britain for people from the US who were researching their own families. I know that he was researching in Gloucester at least once, as I was on one of those tours, and did research on my family with Brian Frith in the Gloucester Public Library and also in the Public Record Office. This was in 1971, so there may have been records that were not deposited at that time, that would be available now. He would have kept research logs, etc. I noticed that he had found wills for some of the people. My guess is that at least some of the submitters for the Pedigree Resource File entries are members of his extended family. I hope that this is helpful. Best to you in your research. Carolyn Harmon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Clarke" <aclarke22@toucansurf.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: [GLS] BLOXHAM/PHIPPS > Hi > > I was wondering if there was anyone on the list researching the BLOXHAM family from Ashchurch during the 17th and 18th centuries. My husband's ancestor was Sarah BLOXHAM born Ashchurch in 1733 daughter of John BLOXHAM and Hannah PHIPPS. She married William BRICK. > > According to IGI John BLOXHAM was also christened at Ashchurch in 1709. Whilst Hannah PHIPPS was christened at Alstone 1708-1710. > > I have seen the Pedigree file on LDS but there seems to be a lot of 'circa' dates involved involved starting with John's father - another John. > > If the Pedigree file is correct, Thomas BLOXHAM (John the elder's father) was christened at Aston sub-edge in 1624 and he married a Joan PHIPPS at Chipping Campden 14th November 1655 - This marriage has been "proven". > > As I said above, I would love to hear from anyone else researching the same family. > > Regards > > Eveline > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >