Hi Listers, Thanks to those people who answered my query regarding the above. Bye, Rosemary M Chalmers Palmerston Bookkeeping Services Darwin NT Australia rosechal@iinet.net.au

Hi Joan and Listers As usual, 'Arry Stottle (Slowhands) gave us the right answer....... Refer to: Hall Genealogy Website - Index of Old Occupations http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html EXPRESSMAN A Messenger - He would collect and deliver letters, packages or parcels that needed quick service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Wikipedia entry referred to earlier is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressman An expressman refers to anyone who has the duty of packing, managing, and ensuring the delivery of any cargo. During the 19th century, expressman usually referred to someone was to ensure the safe delivery of a train's gold or currency in the express car. This job included Guarding the safe or other cargo against outlaws Memorizing the safe's combination until delivery Expressmen make an appearance in Mark Twain's unpopular "The Invalid's Story." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Old Occupations site referenced above is a very useful site. Regards Ruth Curtis Adelaide, South Australia This email has been checked by Norton AntiVirus 2006 ============================================================================ On Monday, 29 Jan 2007, Joan Canning [mailto:ja.perl@bigpond.net.au] wrote: Hi Everyone Came across the occupation of "Expressman" on an 1880 United States Census. Any ideas as to what his job entailed? Cheers Joan ============================================================================

Thank you for your reply and interest - it certainly could be a possibility. Cheers Joan

Thanks David - Could be a possibility, sounds exciting. Cheers Joan

Hello Rosemary, Do let me know nearer the time of your visit to Cirencester, Im sure I can find someone who know the part of the maternity unit. The main building was an old house, and has since been extended. We are so lucky to still have this hospital in Cirencester. from Jenny in Cirencester,[Chairman Cirencester branch GFHS]

Hi Listers, I will be visiting the Cirencester area in May this year and was hoping to visit the above premises as it is where I was born in 1950. A search of the web has not located it. Can any listers give me some information as to what may have become of the building and what was it's street address. My visit in May will be the first time I have been back to England since I migrated with my parents in 1956. As you can imagine I am getting very excited about it. Bye, Rosemary M Chalmers Palmerston Bookkeeping Services Darwin NT Australia rosechal@iinet.net.au

Hi Everyone Came across the occupation of "Expressman" on an 1880 United States Census. Any ideas as to what his job entailed? Cheers Joan

Joan: Sorry, but it isn't the Pony Express -- it began in April 1860 and lasted less than two years! :-(( By 1880, the telegraph system was in place and the first transcontinental railroad complete (1869), so communication from coast to coast was possible, and goods delivery was, too. So communication east/west and vice versa via horse, rather than by sea, was no longer needed. I suspect that the person could have worked for a local/regional package or goods delivery service, or for the US Post Office working with express mail (probably more likely). Exactly where in the US was the person found in the census? Have you seen the original image or are you just looking at the FamilySearch transcription? The place the person was found could tell me a great deal to help you. Sally Washington state, US

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Hi Carolyn Thank you for your reply, which I found very interesting. I certainly didn't mean to say that the submitter for the Ancestral file had his facts wrong. I was just wondering if anyone else was researching so that we could pool what we know and perhaps confirm V Ben Bloxham's findings and also to try to go a little further back. It always helps if there are two people so that you can sound your ideas off them. By the way, I have Harmons in my family tree, they seemed to be based in Worcester. Regards Eveline On Friday, January 26, 2007 10:34 PM Carolyn Harmon wrote. Subject: Re: [GLS] BLOXHAM/PHIPPS > Dear Eveline, > > V BEN BLOXHAM, was the submitter for the Ancestral File submission on LDS > for the John BLOXHAM who was christened at Ashchurch in 1709. He is no > longer living. He was a genealogist who taught genealogy classes on a > university level, published books on the subject, and led tours to Great > Britain for people from the US who were researching their own families. I > know that he was researching in Gloucester at least once, as I was on one of > those tours, and did research on my family with Brian Frith in the > Gloucester Public Library and also in the Public Record Office. This was in > 1971, so there may have been records that were not deposited at that time, > that would be available now. > > He would have kept research logs, etc. > > I noticed that he had found wills for some of the people. > > My guess is that at least some of the submitters for the Pedigree Resource > File entries are members of his extended family. > > I hope that this is helpful. > > Best to you in your research. > Carolyn Harmon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eveline Clarke" <aclarke22@toucansurf.com> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:37 AM > Subject: [GLS] BLOXHAM/PHIPPS > > > > Hi > > > > I was wondering if there was anyone on the list researching the BLOXHAM > family from Ashchurch during the 17th and 18th centuries. My husband's > ancestor was Sarah BLOXHAM born Ashchurch in 1733 daughter of John BLOXHAM > and Hannah PHIPPS. She married William BRICK. > > > > According to IGI John BLOXHAM was also christened at Ashchurch in 1709. > Whilst Hannah PHIPPS was christened at Alstone 1708-1710. > > > > I have seen the Pedigree file on LDS but there seems to be a lot of > 'circa' dates involved involved starting with John's father - another John. > > > > If the Pedigree file is correct, Thomas BLOXHAM (John the elder's father) > was christened at Aston sub-edge in 1624 and he married a Joan PHIPPS at > Chipping Campden 14th November 1655 - This marriage has been "proven". > > > > As I said above, I would love to hear from anyone else researching the > same family. > > > > Regards > > > > Eveline > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Browse the list archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > >

1/ current address Cirencester Hospital The Querns Tetbury Road Cirencester GL7 1UY Tel: +44 1285 884 553 2/ historic address ( before new road system ?) Querns Maternity Unit Querns Lane Cirencester East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

Hi Rosemary, If memory serves me right... It is called the Querns... as opposed to queens regards Dick Rosemary M Chalmers <rosechal@iinet.net.au> wrote: Hi Listers, I will be visiting the Cirencester area in May this year and was hoping to visit the above premises as it is where I was born in 1950. A search of the web has not located it. Can any listers give me some information as to what may have become of the building and what was it's street address. My visit in May will be the first time I have been back to England since I migrated with my parents in 1956. As you can imagine I am getting very excited about it. Bye, Rosemary M Chalmers Palmerston Bookkeeping Services Darwin NT Australia rosechal@iinet.net.au _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes.

could be someone working on the railway looking after cargo, possibly the valuable cargo such as currency / mail East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

In a message dated 1/29/2007 4:12:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, davidjones5512@btinternet.com writes: Did he worked for the Pony Express David The Pony Express only operated from April 1860 through November 1861. So one would not have been working for them when the 1880 Census was taken. Bob Robert Evans Page ".....comes from a long line of dead men." Lawrence Block from his book A Long Line of Dead Men"

In a message dated 1/29/2007 3:35:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, ja.perl@bigpond.net.au writes: Hi Everyone Came across the occupation of "Expressman" on an 1880 United States Census. Any ideas as to what his job entailed? Cheers I can think of a dozen humorous responses, but seriously I think he would be a person who drove a wagon making delieveries. Like the original Railway Express, that delivered freight from the train station to the merchants. Bob Robert Evans Page "comes from a long line of dead men." Lawrence Block from his book A Long Line of Dead Men

Did he worked for the Pony Express David

Jaleda58@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone from the list tell me how to get a photo copy of a marriage > certificate for a marriage which occurred prior to 1837? I believe my 3rd great > grandparents were married in 1819 in St Mary de Lode, but really need to look > at a certificate or a copy of the entry in the register to confirm. There were no certificates in the sense of the post 1837 ones. What you can get is a copy of the register entry which you can get from the Record Office. Email them with the information you have and ask the cost (http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1348) -- Charani (UK)

Hi I am a new lister. Can anyone help re Warren Family Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. My ealiest is Richard Warren Born c 1808 had 2 wives Mary Ann Price b c1812 and Elizabeth Painter b 1813 , I would like to go further back if poss. I seem to have met my brickwall. Also Luke Warren who seems to be the blacksheep of the Family, Richards son ,could have had 3 wives but I have only one reg. Marriage cert. He was nothing like his brother Richard who was a Prison Warder and had a excellent career and served on HMS Mars. Thank you Audrey.

I am pleased to advise that RG9 1708 Long Ashton 1861 census, RG12 1918 Axbridge, RG12 1924 Clutton and RG12 1940 Bath have been uploaded to FreeCEN. The following pieces of the 1861 Somerset census are now available to be searched free on FreeCEN: 1861 Census RG9 1607 Dulverton RG9 1622 North Petherton RG9 1631 Curry Rivell RG9 1685 Bathwick RG9 1708 Long Ashton RG9 1641 South Petherton (will be loaded mid to late February) 1891 Census RG12 1918 Axbridge RG12 1924 Clutton RG12 1940 Bath We are seeking transcribers and checkers for the 1861, 1871 and 1841 censuses. We are particularly interested in anybody who would like to assist with Bath and the surrounding area for 1861. If you are interested in assisting with this project please contact me off board. All you need is a spreadsheet program. We will provide other software and images of the census piece that you are working on. We are also seeking transcribers and checkers for the 1891 census. You will need a fiche reader for this year as the images are on fiche. 80% of Somerset 1861 has been issued for transcription and 40% of Somerset 1861 has been transcribed. The pieces above have been checked and loaded onto the database. Several pieces are being checked at the moment. However I need volunteers to check the backlog of transcriptions so that more of the county can be made available free to researchers. FreeCEN is a free site to search census transcriptions. There are now over 9 Million records on FreeCEN and many more are being added each month. Regards Geoff Jarvis FreeCEN Somerset Coordinator (1841 - 1871) Follow our progress and read our Newsletter at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~somtcen

Janet: Very many thanks for the below - I don't object to a little more confusion when what you have sent is so interesting! Would it be possible for you to explain "Fooks" - is it an area/dwelling/Parish? It is very kind of you to help me with further details. Regards, Margery ----- Original Message ----- From: <JANETHESKI@aol.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] GILLMAN of Horsley > Hi Margery, > As I was not able to help with the GILLMANs mentioned in > your original message I have not sent any of the information that I have > regarding people with this name. > >>From the List Of Horsley Residents 1811-1815 > > Benjamin GILLMAN, weaver, 3 males, 4 females in household, Horsley, > Landlord > Thomas GILLMAN, weaver, 5 males, 5 females, Horsley, Tenant. > John GILLMAN, cordwinder, 4 males, 3 females, Horsley, Landlord. > Ann GILLMAN, widow, no males, one female, Horsley, Landlady. > Richard GILLMAN, weaver, 4 males, 2 females, Horsley, Landlord. > Joseph GILLMAN, weaver, 4 males, 4 females, Horsley Tenant [two families]. > John GILLMAN, gardener, one male, one female, Horsley, Tenant. > > This extract contains a large proportion of Land owners compared with the > total population. > >>From The Shortwood Members' Book: > Joseph GILLMAN was baptised as an adult on 7th November 1784. > Ann GILLMAN, nee SWAIN 16th February 1777. > Richard GILLMAN, 9th May 1806, lived at Fooks > John GILLMAN, 25th August 1811, lived at Washpool > Rebekah GILLMAN, 25th August 1811, lived at Washpool/Downend. > Martha GILLMAN, 10th May 1812, lived at Fooks. > Mary GILLMAN, 1st October, 1829, lived at Fooks. > > Also: > Hannah GILLMAN HIDE baptised 5th December 1853 > Elizabeth GILLMAN FORDS, lived at Kings Stanley, moved to Oxford 1848. > > I hope that this will help rather than cause confusion..... > > Cheers, > Janet Heskins > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Mail was checked for spam by the Freeware Edition of No Spam Today! > The Freeware Edition is free for personal and non-commercial use. > You can remove this notice by purchasing a full license! To order > or to find out more please visit: http://www.nospamtoday.com