Hi Charani I have had a full print-out of all the burials under that name (Quiney) at Cheltenham cemetery, which was opened in 1864 (I think), and the only place that anyone could be buried who lived in that part of town, because the churchyard was closed by then, so I have eliminated that. There are other childrenof the same name, one lived two minutes, one lived two seconds, but they were not the same dates, and were the children of another member of the same family. We had understood that the child lived a little while, and this person I spoke to yesterday had said to his daughters that he had twin sisters. It is all very bizarre. I will call Cheltenham Register office today. Regards Pauline > > If there had been a twin, I would have expected there to have been > some indication, even if the other one had been still born. > > A stillborn child had neither a birth nor a death certificate, so no > entry in either index. Stillbirths weren't registered until 1927 and > the registers are closed except to the parents of the child or > siblings where the parents are deceased. > > If the child was born alive and had drawn breath, then there would be > a registration in both the relevant birth and death indices. That > there is none suggests that either the child was still born or that > the story was a family legend. Such stories can perpetuate through > more than one family which tend to lend substance where there is none. > > All you can do is record the fact that it's believed there was a twin > but there is no trace of her. That said, have you tried the parish > burial registers? There *might* be a reference in there depending on > how conscientious the incumbent was. Stillborn children were usually > buried in the same coffin as an adult who was not necessarily a relative. > -- > Charani (UK) > >

Pauline, Parish registers sometimes specify twins in the entry, but other entries for two children born to the same parents and baptised on the same day cannot be assumed to be twins. They may have been born in different years. Such instances are sometimes augmented with the children's birth dates, but not always. For a birth as recent as 1895, the register entry needs to be examined, but unless it refers to twins, it won't be conclusive. Jeff On Sun, 11 February, 2007 8:58 pm, Pauline Roberts wrote: > Hello all > > > My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a > twin. The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon > after birth. > > When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention > of a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I > assumed that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a > fib. > > I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, > and she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me > wondering. There is neither a birth nor death registration for another > child at the same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the > certificate. Can anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of > birth or death could have taken place if the child was born but died? > > To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of > all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are > babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my > grandmother's birth, not even slightly. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little > bit flummoxed by this. > > Pauline > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mataylor@homestead92.fsnet.co.uk wrote: > Are there any Church records that might help? Christening is possible at > birth. Was it a home birth or hospital if a difficult birth? If hospital > maybe records. The survival of hospital records is unlikely. It would be a case of knowing which hospital and contacting the adminstrator, if the hospital still exists. > Is there a time delay between birth and registration? Maybe view either side > of your Grandmothers registration a bit further. Would one twin be registered but not the other? > On the indexes look for unknown at the end of the quarter. Whilst family may > have named her it might only have been after legal registration had taken > place. The unknowns are quite literally that: foundlings whose parents were not known and who had no name. They are given a name by whatever institution took care of them. A twin wouldn't fall into that category. If no name was given at the time of birth or in the 6 weeks following, then the child would be registered under the family surname and Female as the given name. If the child was subsequently named, the parents could have applied for re-registration and the index entry would have been annotated. However, if the child was registered because she lived, ie took a single breath, then there'd be a corresponding death entry. -- Charani (UK)

Pauline Are there any Church records that might help? Christening is possible at birth. Was it a home birth or hospital if a difficult birth? If hospital maybe records. Is there a time delay between birth and registration? Maybe view either side of your Grandmothers registration a bit further. On the indexes look for unknown at the end of the quarter. Whilst family may have named her it might only have been after legal registration had taken place. Look further afield regarding burial. You might have thought of the above but I like a puzzle. Mark -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Pauline Roberts Sent: 11 February 2007 21:28 To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLS] Birth of Twins Hi Jenny Thank you. Does this mean that no time would have been put on my grandmother's birth then, seeing as the other child was still born? Does this not count? I might just telephone the register office concerned and see (as it was a typed certificate) if there was a time entered that was missed off the certificate. Regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny buckley" <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Birth of Twins > Hi Pauline, > > Yesterday I was reading the march issue of practical family > history and in one story it does mention twins, it could be that the twin > was still born, and it states in the magazine that still births prior to > 1927 were not registered. hope this little bit is of help to you. > > jenny > > > >From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > >Reply-To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > >To: <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: [GLS] Birth of Twins > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:58:18 -0000 > > > >Hello all > > > >My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a twin. > >The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon after > >birth. > > > >When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention > >of > >a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I assumed > >that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a fib. > > > >I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, > >and > >she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me wondering. > >There is neither a birth nor death registration for another child at the > >same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the certificate. Can > >anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of birth or death > >could > >have taken place if the child was born but died? > > > >To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of > >all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are > >babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my > >grandmother's birth, not even slightly. > > > >I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little > >bit > >flummoxed by this. > > > >Pauline > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > >Browse the list archives at: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > >Keyword search - any or all lists: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail > http://ideas.live.com > > > _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jenny Thank you. Does this mean that no time would have been put on my grandmother's birth then, seeing as the other child was still born? Does this not count? I might just telephone the register office concerned and see (as it was a typed certificate) if there was a time entered that was missed off the certificate. Regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny buckley" <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Birth of Twins > Hi Pauline, > > Yesterday I was reading the march issue of practical family > history and in one story it does mention twins, it could be that the twin > was still born, and it states in the magazine that still births prior to > 1927 were not registered. hope this little bit is of help to you. > > jenny > > > >From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > >Reply-To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > >To: <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: [GLS] Birth of Twins > >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:58:18 -0000 > > > >Hello all > > > >My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a twin. > >The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon after > >birth. > > > >When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention > >of > >a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I assumed > >that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a fib. > > > >I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, > >and > >she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me wondering. > >There is neither a birth nor death registration for another child at the > >same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the certificate. Can > >anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of birth or death > >could > >have taken place if the child was born but died? > > > >To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of > >all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are > >babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my > >grandmother's birth, not even slightly. > > > >I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little > >bit > >flummoxed by this. > > > >Pauline > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > >Browse the list archives at: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > >Keyword search - any or all lists: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail > http://ideas.live.com > > >

Thank you Ruth, I am delighted. Regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Withers" <ruthwithers@lineone.net> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] HARMER of Eastington > there is a John Harmer to Elizabeth CURTIS marriage at Eastington 30 May > 1822 by banns > > Other John Harmer marriages between 1800 & 1837 are: > > © Gloucestershire Family History Society 2003 - Gloucestershire Marriage > Index CD > > HARMER John AVENING > BARNFIELD Susannah 1804 > HARMER John STROUD > BROWNING Rachel 1803 > HARMER John EASTLEACH MARTIN > COATES Ann 1820 > HARMER John EASTINGTON > CURTIS Elizabeth 1822 > HARMER John STROUD > GYDE Mary 1803 > HARMER John MINCHINHAMPTON > MANSFIELD Elizabeth 1837 > HARMER John KINGS STANLEY > RUSS Mary 1822 > > Ruth > Pauline Roberts wrote: > > Hello all > > > > Has anyone got any HARMERS of Eastington in their tree? I am looking to > > find who John HARMER married. Her name was Elizabeth ??? this is the bit I > > need to know. > > > > I have checked Hugh Wallis's site, but cannot find the marriage because I am > > unsure where it may have taken place, but it does not seem to have taken > > place at Eastington. > > > > John HARMER and Elizabeth were living in Leckhampton in 1841, but both had > > died before 1851. It is possible his wife was Elizabeth Susannah ?? My gt > > gt grandmother was their daughter Ann. > > > > TIA > > > > Pauline > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Browse the list archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >

Pauline Roberts wrote: > Hello all > > My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a twin. > The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon after > birth. > > When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention of > a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I assumed > that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a fib. > > I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, and > she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me wondering. > There is neither a birth nor death registration for another child at the > same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the certificate. Can > anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of birth or death could > have taken place if the child was born but died? > > To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of > all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are > babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my > grandmother's birth, not even slightly. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little bit > flummoxed by this. If there had been a twin, I would have expected there to have been some indication, even if the other one had been still born. A stillborn child had neither a birth nor a death certificate, so no entry in either index. Stillbirths weren't registered until 1927 and the registers are closed except to the parents of the child or siblings where the parents are deceased. If the child was born alive and had drawn breath, then there would be a registration in both the relevant birth and death indices. That there is none suggests that either the child was still born or that the story was a family legend. Such stories can perpetuate through more than one family which tend to lend substance where there is none. All you can do is record the fact that it's believed there was a twin but there is no trace of her. That said, have you tried the parish burial registers? There *might* be a reference in there depending on how conscientious the incumbent was. Stillborn children were usually buried in the same coffin as an adult who was not necessarily a relative. -- Charani (UK)

My mothers midwifery notes mentions maternal twins, but there is no sign of a time on my grandmothers birth certificate. She was in fact an only child, though I have discovered - just this week - another child who died 18 hours old due to a premature birth (my sister and aunt suffered from pre-eclampsia in pregnancy and I presume that this runs in families) Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: [GLS] Birth of Twins > Hello all > > My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a twin. > The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon after > birth. > > When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention > of > a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I assumed > that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a fib. > > I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, > and > she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me wondering. > There is neither a birth nor death registration for another child at the > same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the certificate. Can > anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of birth or death > could > have taken place if the child was born but died? > > To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of > all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are > babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my > grandmother's birth, not even slightly. > > I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little > bit > flummoxed by this. > > Pauline > > > >

Hello all My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a twin. The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon after birth. When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention of a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I assumed that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a fib. I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, and she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me wondering. There is neither a birth nor death registration for another child at the same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the certificate. Can anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of birth or death could have taken place if the child was born but died? To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my grandmother's birth, not even slightly. I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little bit flummoxed by this. Pauline

Hi Pauline, Yesterday I was reading the march issue of practical family history and in one story it does mention twins, it could be that the twin was still born, and it states in the magazine that still births prior to 1927 were not registered. hope this little bit is of help to you. jenny >From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> >Reply-To: gloucester@rootsweb.com >To: <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [GLS] Birth of Twins >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:58:18 -0000 > >Hello all > >My grandmother was born in 1895, and all her life believed she was a twin. >The other child, apparently a girl was called Lucy but died soon after >birth. > >When I purchased my grandmother's birth certificate, there was no mention >of >a time, which I understood was the case when there was twins, so I assumed >that there was only one child and the other child was a bit of a fib. > >I have now spoken to the daughter of my grandmother's long lost brother, >and >she mentioned the fact that my gran was a twin. This leaves me wondering. >There is neither a birth nor death registration for another child at the >same time as my grandmother, and no indication on the certificate. Can >anyone advise if it is possible that no registration of birth or death >could >have taken place if the child was born but died? > >To add to this, the name is an unusual one, and I have a complete list of >all people buried at the cemetery nearby with the same name, some are >babies, but none are called Lucy, and none coincide with the date of my >grandmother's birth, not even slightly. > >I would appreciate any comments anyone would have, because I am a little >bit >flummoxed by this. > >Pauline > > > _____________________________________________ > >Browse the list archives at: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > >Keyword search - any or all lists: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Thanks for the help on looking for records on Thomas J. Heath. I will need to review the source of my records to determine if they are correct. I appreciate your efforts. Charles Olney

Hello all Has anyone got any HARMERS of Eastington in their tree? I am looking to find who John HARMER married. Her name was Elizabeth ??? this is the bit I need to know. I have checked Hugh Wallis's site, but cannot find the marriage because I am unsure where it may have taken place, but it does not seem to have taken place at Eastington. John HARMER and Elizabeth were living in Leckhampton in 1841, but both had died before 1851. It is possible his wife was Elizabeth Susannah ?? My gt gt grandmother was their daughter Ann. TIA Pauline

Oft times I race off to 'google' without noting everything in the email. Although you cannot positively say this is your John Beard the odds appear to be stacked in his favout. Did you 'google' Quakers Thornbury Glousecter? There is a meeting house in Thornbury and it does give an email address. Regards Debby -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan Daly Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 3:27 PM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLS] John Beard Debby Thanks for your efforts - I had found these names on Scribe's Alcove and IGI/LDS as well. The former site is excellent for the Thornbury area and I highly recommend it to all. As I said in my first posting I am not certain that this is the right family although it looks a strong possibility. Regards Jan Daly -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of derby2 Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 1:09 PM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLS] John Beard Jan, Did a bit more searching. Type into Google 'Beard Genealogy Thornbury Gloucester', click on 'Genuki: Stone, Thornbury, click on 'Church Records, click on 'Scribes Alcoves" and you will find all your 'Beards' BMD's if the JOhn Beard I found is yours. All his family is here but not a marriage for him unfortunately. Some refernces gives places of abode and even occupations. again have fun. I will keep searching for a bit. Regards Debby in Melbourne (I do lookups here too, my nickname is 'Gopher') -----Original Message----- From: gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gloucester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan Daly Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2007 11:34 AM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLS] John Beard Hi Listers, I am trying to find out more information about my great great grandfather, John Beard. He was born in Gloucestershire in about 1798. He arrived in Australia in 1838, after being convicted of fraud. He was sentenced to transportation for life in the Summer Assizes at Gloucester in August 1837. His indent papers show that he was married at that time, however, he married again in December 1848. He is shown as a "widower" on the marriage entry. The indent papers give his religion as Quaker and the conditional pardon shows him as born in 1798. There is a report of the trial in "The Times" of 9 August 1837 which states that the prisoner "had been a man of great respectability and property in this city" and "had lately been a coal and timber merchant." I am trying to find out more about John Beard's life in Glos before he was sent to New South Wales such as his business dealings and his first wife. His parents are shown on his death certificate as Brice Beard and Harriett Courner. I have some doubts about the accuracy of this information as his widow, who was the informant was also called Harriett Courner. I have looked on "Scribe's Alcove" and IGI and found a John Beard born on 4 April 1797 to Brice Beard and Sarah Lovelace. Although the father's name is right, the mother's name and the year of birth don't fit with other information. I would be grateful for any ideas or assistance. My father tried to find some information about the Quakers in Glos many years ago but without success. Regards Jan Daly Sydney NSW Australia _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

there is a John Harmer to Elizabeth CURTIS marriage at Eastington 30 May 1822 by banns Other John Harmer marriages between 1800 & 1837 are: © Gloucestershire Family History Society 2003 - Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD HARMER John AVENING BARNFIELD Susannah 1804 HARMER John STROUD BROWNING Rachel 1803 HARMER John EASTLEACH MARTIN COATES Ann 1820 HARMER John EASTINGTON CURTIS Elizabeth 1822 HARMER John STROUD GYDE Mary 1803 HARMER John MINCHINHAMPTON MANSFIELD Elizabeth 1837 HARMER John KINGS STANLEY RUSS Mary 1822 Ruth Pauline Roberts wrote: > Hello all > > Has anyone got any HARMERS of Eastington in their tree? I am looking to > find who John HARMER married. Her name was Elizabeth ??? this is the bit I > need to know. > > I have checked Hugh Wallis's site, but cannot find the marriage because I am > unsure where it may have taken place, but it does not seem to have taken > place at Eastington. > > John HARMER and Elizabeth were living in Leckhampton in 1841, but both had > died before 1851. It is possible his wife was Elizabeth Susannah ?? My gt > gt grandmother was their daughter Ann. > > TIA > > Pauline > > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Just noticed an error in my email - father's age should read 45, not 15!! Ruth Ruth Withers wrote: > hi Jenny > > There is an 8 year old Richard Organ at Cranham with his parents Richard > & Hannah. Their ages are shown as 15 and 40 respectively. Richard senior > is a "Woodard" which I assume means Woodward. Young Richard does not > appear to have any siblings. > > Ruth > > Jenny buckley wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Am now looking for a RICHARD ORGAN on the 1841 census he was born >> in brockworth in 1834 so will be 7 I am hoping he is with his parents >> if you find him would you be able to give me all details. I did find >> him on the 1851 census but he is with another family in brimpsfield. >> >> many thanks for all the help I have had today, jenny >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN Hotmail is evolving -- check out the new Windows Live Mail >> http://ideas.live.com >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

hi Jenny There is an 8 year old Richard Organ at Cranham with his parents Richard & Hannah. Their ages are shown as 15 and 40 respectively. Richard senior is a "Woodard" which I assume means Woodward. Young Richard does not appear to have any siblings. Ruth Jenny buckley wrote: > > > Hi, > > Am now looking for a RICHARD ORGAN on the 1841 census he was born > in brockworth in 1834 so will be 7 I am hoping he is with his parents > if you find him would you be able to give me all details. I did find > him on the 1851 census but he is with another family in brimpsfield. > > many thanks for all the help I have had today, jenny > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail is evolving -- check out the new Windows Live Mail > http://ideas.live.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cranham, Gloucestershire. Richard Organ 45 Woodard? all born in county Hannah 40 Richard 8 Regards David jenny buckley <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi, Am now looking for a RICHARD ORGAN on the 1841 census he was born in brockworth in 1834 so will be 7 I am hoping he is with his parents if you find him would you be able to give me all details. I did find him on the 1851 census but he is with another family in brimpsfield. many thanks for all the help I have had today, jenny _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cranham, Gloucestershire. Richard Organ 45 Woodard? all born in county Hannah 40 Richard 8 Regards David jenny buckley <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi, Am now looking for a RICHARD ORGAN on the 1841 census he was born in brockworth in 1834 so will be 7 I am hoping he is with his parents if you find him would you be able to give me all details. I did find him on the 1851 census but he is with another family in brimpsfield. many thanks for all the help I have had today, jenny _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hannah Organ abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Cranham Gloucestershire Richard Organ abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Cranham Gloucestershire Richard Organ abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Cranham jenny buckley <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi, Am now looking for a RICHARD ORGAN on the 1841 census he was born in brockworth in 1834 so will be 7 I am hoping he is with his parents if you find him would you be able to give me all details. I did find him on the 1851 census but he is with another family in brimpsfield. many thanks for all the help I have had today, jenny _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jenny 1841 Cranham, Gloucestershire Richard Organ 45 Hannah Organ 40 Richard Organ 8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny buckley" <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> > Am now looking for a RICHARD ORGAN on the 1841 census he was born in > brockworth in 1834 so will be 7 I am hoping he is with his parents if you > find him would you be able to give me all details. I did find him on the > 1851 census but he is with another family in brimpsfield. > > many thanks for all the help I have had today, jenny > >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message