Hi John I don't have a particularly good map of old Tewkesbury but I do know that Oldbury Road is the next street running parallel to Chance Street and Station Road crosses both of them so I am pretty sure it is Chance Street that you want. As to the factory there, I wouldn't like to hazard a guess but I will pass your query along to John Dixon who is the chairman of the Tewkesbury History Society and I am sure he will be able to tell you. Best wishes Liz __________________________________ Hidden Heritage : www.gloster.demon.co.uk Researching : BLINKHORNE/BLENKARN/SOSBE GWINNETT/RANN PHILPOTT & PURDON only in Ireland > -----Original Message----- > From: john frawley [mailto:j.frawley@ntlworld.com] > Sent: 05 March 2007 11:02 > To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. > > Thanks for this info Liz, have located where it is and have tried to > ascertain if it is the correct place by browsing through the census pages > before and after the original one HO/107 /1974.Folio 482. Page 38. to see > if any of the streets and places given tally with present day but not with a > deal of success, places given after my entry are Wellington Cottages, Nelson > Cottages, Union Place and Speculation Place, and those after mine are > Factory Building ? a lot of names in here any idea what it was ? then > Oldbury Road, Trinity Place, Alms Houses Railway Lodge, and again Oldbury > Road, the only possible link present day as I can see is to the RAILWAY as > from present day I see that this is close by. > Any comments on this are welcome. > Regards. John. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth Jack" <ejack@gloster.demon.co.uk> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. > > > > Hi John > > > > Chance Street is still there - it is a small road off Barton Street in > > Tewkesbury. > > > > You may find something of interest on : > > > > http://www.ths.freeuk.com/ > > > > the website for the Tewkesbury Historical Society. > > > > Best wishes > > Liz > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Hidden Heritage : www.gloster.demon.co.uk > > Researching : BLINKHORNE/BLENKARN/SOSBE > > GWINNETT/RANN > > PHILPOTT & PURDON only in Ireland > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: john frawley [mailto:j.frawley@ntlworld.com] > >> Sent: 03 March 2007 10:15 > >> To: gloucester@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. > >> > >> Thanks for this Bob, as you suggest it looks like this could be the > > answer > >> so will follow your suggestions and check out the following page and > > also > >> take a rain check in Google to see if it is still there and if so the > >> details of this, again many thanks. > >> Regards. John. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "ROBERT HARRIS" <bob.june@btopenworld.com> > >> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:35 PM > >> Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. > >> > >> > >> > John, > >> > > >> > Could it be CHANCE STREET, have a look at the following page also. > >> > > >> > A google search suggests the street still exists. > >> > > >> > regards > >> > > >> > Bob > >> > > >> > john frawley <j.frawley@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> > I would be very grateful if anyone can help with the following > > problem. > >> > 1851 Census for TEWKESBURY HO/107 /1974.Folio 482. Page 38. I have > > on > >> here > >> > a > >> > Thomas Drinkwater but there is no address at all, I have gone back > > to the > >> > prior page and on there is a unclear address that looks like Chaner > > Street > >> > Factory Buildings, it is the first part that is not clear and I > > would be > >> > grateful for any help in clarifying the actual Street name. > >> > Many thanks in advance for any ideas on this. > >> > John. DERBY. > >> > > >> > _____________________________________________ > >> > > >> > Browse the list archives at: > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > >> > > >> > Keyword search - any or all lists: > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > _____________________________________________ > >> > > >> > Browse the list archives at: > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > >> > > >> > Keyword search - any or all lists: > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Browse the list archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have an Elizabeth Stephens married in Winchcombe in 1821, bride of Chartlton Abbotts. She had several brothers and sisters. I have been gone and only just got back to checking messages, so probably missed all early ones. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce and Chris Woods" <bcwoods@bigpond.net.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Stevens > Hi Carolyn and Mark > > I think I might be coming in part-way through this thread (I can't seem to > find the original message) but I have a STEVENS/STEPHENS line in > Gloucestershire. My great great grandfather, George Stephens/Stevens, was > baptised in Charlton Abbots in 1820. He had at least one brother, > William, > and sister, Ann - their parents were Henry and Mary Stephens/Stevens. > Does > this fit in to your Stevens family? > Regards > Chris Woods > Tasmania, Australia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark pinches" <mark.pinches@ntlworld.com> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:12 AM > Subject: Re: [GLS] Stevens > > >> Hi Carolyn, >> I have STEVENS connections in Gloucestershire, >> What are yours? >> Mark Pinches >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carolyn Ostler" <COHB284@msn.com> >> To: "GLOUCESTER-L" <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [GLS] Stevens >> >> >>> Hi Peter >>> Thank you for this information. I had some of it but not all the deaths >>> etc. I appreciate it. I think that this is the correct Mary as far as >>> I >>> can prove it. They certainly had a lot of young deaths in the family? >>> >>> I know nothing about the Stevens family as for along time all I have had >>> was the name Mary Stevens. >>> >>> Do you know anything about the families occupation etc? >>> >>> Regards >>> Carolyn >>> _____________________________________________ >>> >>> Browse the list archives at: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >>> >>> Keyword search - any or all lists: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release Date: >>> 23/02/2007 >>> >>> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/703 - Release Date: >> 26/02/2007 >> 2:56 PM >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>my wifes family ancestors include both >BAYLIS' ( sometimes spelt BAYLISS and pre-1800 BAILEY/BAILY) I have a couple of Baylis in my tree on http://www.connectedglobe.com/family/web/hawkerfam/ They came from Seven Stoke. I would be interested to know if you have connections to this area with your Baylis families. Graham Hawker -- Graham Hawker | People remember the messenger family@greyhawk.demon.co.uk | But forget the message. http://www.connectedglobe.com/family/web/hawkerfam/

Hello Tim I noticed your BAYLIS and RODWAY. I don't think I can help but it might possibly be of interest to you that my wifes family ancestors include both BAYLIS' ( sometimes spelt BAYLISS and pre-1800 BAILEY/BAILY) and RODWAYs ( aka RADWAYs). Thomas BAYLIS b 1840 S Cerney married (1865 Cirencester ) Elizabeth RODWAY b 1842 Somerford Keynes. Thomas BAYLISb 1840 was son of Rachel BAYLIS dau of Job BAILEY and Ann CARTER ( b 1791? S Cerney ) who were married in 1808 in S Cerney. Later some of these BAYLIS' lived in Wales and Bristol. Elizabeth RODWAY b 1842 was dau of Thomas RADWAY b 1817 Somerford Keynes and Ann BEAMES b 1820 Kemble ( married 1838 Kemble). Thomas RADWAY b 1817 was ? son of Richard RADWAY. Some of this is not yet fully proven - I am working on it. Does not seem to tie in with your family but I would obviously be interested if you think there might be links. Ian ianlogan@btopenworld.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Green" <jerakeen@utahbroadband.com> To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:05 AM Subject: [GLS] John BAYLIS/Mary SPARROW > Help, please, or suggestions, on trying to find the marriage of this > couple, probably around 1831 or 1832. With the assistance of census > returns and parish records I have established with some certainty that > John BAYLIS was baptized 10 Apr 1808 in Ashchurch, while Mary SPARROW > was baptized 28 Oct 1804 in Maisemore. She was the first of nine > children. She and one sister were baptized in Maisemore. One brother > and another sister were baptized in Gloucester, all in the Church of > England. The next 5 children were all baptized in the Independent > church in Gloucester. > > The next I know of Mary is the baptism of her first known child on 11 > Nov 1832 in the Independent Chapel in Cheltenham, and another similarly > baptized on 25 Nov 1834. Their third known child is my direct ancestor > Sarah Ann BAYLIS, born 10 Mar 1838. I have her birth certificate. Both > she and three subsequent children were baptized in the Church of > England.(one of them at age 9). > > I cannot find a marriage for this couple. I do have census entries for > 1841 and 1851 which confirm the make-up of the family, despite the > apparent changes in religious affiliation. Any suggestions on how to > find a marriage for them would be appreciated. I have already looked in > the obvious places (Ashchurch, Maisemore, Gloucester and Cheltenham) but > without success. I suppose it is possible they did not get married at > all since non-Conformists were not allowed to perform their own > marriages at that time. However, as a family that clearly thought > seriously about religion, enough to change their affiliation, I feel > confident there would be a marriage ceremony somewhere to avoid the > taint of adultery/fornication/illegitimacy. > > > Tim Green > > (801) 568-9679 (Home) > (801) 661-3990 (Cell) > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Phil Can I help at all? George WORLOCK is my Great Great Great Grandfather. Worlock is the spelling there are a couple of meanings I've found, not sure which is best, there is from the old english Waeloga meaning capable of taking on inhuman shape or being or there is an Oath Breaker. As it was my maiden name I don't know which I prefer but as I'm now an Essex Bog (the meaning of my name Slowgrove now) I think I prefer both! Feel free to contact me I've lots on the Worlocks. (I may be slow to answer as I tend to check this email weekly) All the best Jane Slowgrove Phil Warn <philwarn@ntlworld.com> wrote: Hi Glisters, Oh dear, I wonder if this is an occupational surname? Thomas Raglan WITCHELL married Mary GOULD Jun 1882 Q. Tetbury RD. Thomas R. and Mary lived in Sopwotrth. Mary was christened 25 March 1854 at St Peter's Church, Dyrham daughter of Robert HOLBIN GOULD and Harriett WORLOCK. Harriett was the daughter of George and Amelia WARLOCK of Wapley & Codrington. Does any one link into either a WORLOCK or HOLBIN family, please? Were there white and black warlocks, too? Thanks Phil Phil Warn ô¿ô Genealogists do it backwards Family Historians take all steps "The Warn family in Tetbury from 1722" _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.

I have scanned a copy of the list for some of the Orestes passengers 1839. TACLE William TRANTOR George TACKLE John (meant to be TEAKLE My ancestor) THOMAS William VICK Thomas WATTS John WILLS OR WELLS Robert WOOD Jnr Samuel WILDER William WOOD Sen Samuel http://www.angelfire.com/folk/teakle/teaklefamily/ Regards Kathryn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 03-Mar-07 8:12 AM

I have scanned a copy of the baptism record for Horsley 1792. My ancestors included are Teakle/Gillman http://www.angelfire.com/planet/turksurname/family Regards Kathryn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 03-Mar-07 8:12 AM

Hi Janet, I have got his will it did state that if his wife died or married then it was to be auctioned off, I found in the paper two advertisements for the auction which gave the solicitors and auctionier name but the record office does not have anything on the names, I have the 1839 tithe map of sandhurst which shows the farm, house and other land, and I have the 1831/2 electoral roll disc for gloucester and he is on that. I dont know if I will find anything about the farm. I thought someone might be able to tell me where to look next, would it be worth looking at the deeds but they did only state sandhurst. jenny >From: "Janet Booth" <janbooth@dsl.pipex.com> >Reply-To: gloucester@rootsweb.com >To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [GLS] thanks >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:03:56 -0000 > >Jenny, > >Have you tried his will which is available from Gloucestershire Archives. >It is listed on their database as reference 1851/211. Some of my >ancestors' >wills give details of what land they owned and also who they actually >purchased it from - it could be worth a try. There is a link to download >an >order form on their site. Hope this helps. > >Janet > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jenny buckley" <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> >To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:30 PM >Subject: [GLS] thanks > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks to the people that helped me with the 1891 census re: smith > > family and daniell family. > > > > could someone give me some advise I am trying to find out about my gt gt > > grandfather DANIEL COATES he owned a farm and land in sandhurst I would > > like > > to try and trace when he first went to sandhurst and find out about the > > farm, he died in 1851 and the furthist I have gone back is 1831/2 with >the > > electoral list of gloucester for that year. I have been on the glos >record > > office database and came up with deeds (not for his property or farm) >but > > it > > just says sandhurst, does anyone know if it would be worth looking at > > these > > deeds, I have never looked at documents before,or has anyone any other > > ideas > > on what to look at. > > > > jenny > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Rate your skiving credentials with our Slack-o-meter > > http://www.slack-o-meter.com > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Browse the list archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > >Browse the list archives at: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > >Keyword search - any or all lists: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Jenny, Have you tried his will which is available from Gloucestershire Archives. It is listed on their database as reference 1851/211. Some of my ancestors' wills give details of what land they owned and also who they actually purchased it from - it could be worth a try. There is a link to download an order form on their site. Hope this helps. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny buckley" <jenny_buckley@hotmail.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: [GLS] thanks > > > Hi, > > Thanks to the people that helped me with the 1891 census re: smith > family and daniell family. > > could someone give me some advise I am trying to find out about my gt gt > grandfather DANIEL COATES he owned a farm and land in sandhurst I would > like > to try and trace when he first went to sandhurst and find out about the > farm, he died in 1851 and the furthist I have gone back is 1831/2 with the > electoral list of gloucester for that year. I have been on the glos record > office database and came up with deeds (not for his property or farm) but > it > just says sandhurst, does anyone know if it would be worth looking at > these > deeds, I have never looked at documents before,or has anyone any other > ideas > on what to look at. > > jenny > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rate your skiving credentials with our Slack-o-meter > http://www.slack-o-meter.com > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this info Liz, have located where it is and have tried to ascertain if it is the correct place by browsing through the census pages before and after the original one HO/107 /1974.Folio 482. Page 38. to see if any of the streets and places given tally with present day but not with a deal of success, places given after my entry are Wellington Cottages, Nelson Cottages, Union Place and Speculation Place, and those after mine are Factory Building ? a lot of names in here any idea what it was ? then Oldbury Road, Trinity Place, Alms Houses Railway Lodge, and again Oldbury Road, the only possible link present day as I can see is to the RAILWAY as from present day I see that this is close by. Any comments on this are welcome. Regards. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Jack" <ejack@gloster.demon.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. > Hi John > > Chance Street is still there - it is a small road off Barton Street in > Tewkesbury. > > You may find something of interest on : > > http://www.ths.freeuk.com/ > > the website for the Tewkesbury Historical Society. > > Best wishes > Liz > > __________________________________ > > Hidden Heritage : www.gloster.demon.co.uk > Researching : BLINKHORNE/BLENKARN/SOSBE > GWINNETT/RANN > PHILPOTT & PURDON only in Ireland > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: john frawley [mailto:j.frawley@ntlworld.com] >> Sent: 03 March 2007 10:15 >> To: gloucester@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. >> >> Thanks for this Bob, as you suggest it looks like this could be the > answer >> so will follow your suggestions and check out the following page and > also >> take a rain check in Google to see if it is still there and if so the >> details of this, again many thanks. >> Regards. John. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ROBERT HARRIS" <bob.june@btopenworld.com> >> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 10:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [GLS] Census place name in TEWKESBURY. >> >> >> > John, >> > >> > Could it be CHANCE STREET, have a look at the following page also. >> > >> > A google search suggests the street still exists. >> > >> > regards >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > john frawley <j.frawley@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> > I would be very grateful if anyone can help with the following > problem. >> > 1851 Census for TEWKESBURY HO/107 /1974.Folio 482. Page 38. I have > on >> here >> > a >> > Thomas Drinkwater but there is no address at all, I have gone back > to the >> > prior page and on there is a unclear address that looks like Chaner > Street >> > Factory Buildings, it is the first part that is not clear and I > would be >> > grateful for any help in clarifying the actual Street name. >> > Many thanks in advance for any ideas on this. >> > John. DERBY. >> > >> > _____________________________________________ >> > >> > Browse the list archives at: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> > >> > Keyword search - any or all lists: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > _____________________________________________ >> > >> > Browse the list archives at: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> > >> > Keyword search - any or all lists: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Elizabeth for information. I will have to add to my research which I did years ago. Sophia (my ancestor) married John Teakle junior and they both died in Australia. They came to Australia on ORESTES in the 1830's This is what I had on Teakle and Turk but I now have more info to add http://www.angelfire.com/folk/teakle/ http://www.angelfire.com/planet/turksurname/ Its good they all came from Horsley Regards Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Jack" <ejack@gloster.demon.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] My visit to Horsley for research on Gillman/Turk/Teakle > Hi Kathryn > > I think you need to be looking at Shortwood Baptist Church in Newmarket, > Horsley. I have a burial there for Tamar GILLMAN aged 59 on 3rd > December 1818. There are a lot of TEAKLE, TURK and GILMMAN burials > there. There is one for a John TEAKLE on 18 November 1832 aged 66 but I > don't have one for Sophia. > > Liz > > __________________________________ > > Hidden Heritage : www.gloster.demon.co.uk > Researching : BLINKHORNE/BLENKARN/SOSBE > GWINNETT/RANN > PHILPOTT & PURDON only in Ireland > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul & Kathryn Lucas [mailto:pklucas@tpg.com.au] > > Sent: 02 March 2007 06:59 > > To: GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [GLS] My visit to Horsley for research on Gillman/Turk/Teakle > > > > I am seeking descendants of John Teakle/ Sophia Augusta Gillman/ > Tamar > > Turk all from Horsley > > > > This is all I have on the above and related families > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/folk/teakle/ > > > > > > We are visiting the UK in May/June and would like to find out more > info so I > > am able to do some more research whilst in the UK > > > > Regards > > Kathryn > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/706 - Release Date: > 28-Feb-07 4:09 PM > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 03-Mar-07 8:12 AM > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 03-Mar-07 8:12 AM

Hi, Thanks to the people that helped me with the 1891 census re: smith family and daniell family. could someone give me some advise I am trying to find out about my gt gt grandfather DANIEL COATES he owned a farm and land in sandhurst I would like to try and trace when he first went to sandhurst and find out about the farm, he died in 1851 and the furthist I have gone back is 1831/2 with the electoral list of gloucester for that year. I have been on the glos record office database and came up with deeds (not for his property or farm) but it just says sandhurst, does anyone know if it would be worth looking at these deeds, I have never looked at documents before,or has anyone any other ideas on what to look at. jenny _________________________________________________________________ Rate your skiving credentials with our Slack-o-meter http://www.slack-o-meter.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Victoria Read To: GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: LANE and LONG ancestors Badgeworth and Churchdown area Hello List I have many ancestors that come from round the Badgeworth and Hucclecote areas. If anyone sees a connection or has some good pointers on where to look for further information I would be most grateful. Earliest: LANE Thomas born 1814 Badgeworth married Elizabeth born c 1822 Pencombe children: all born Badgeworth - John c1845, Ann c1847, Thomas c1850, William c1853, Jane c1855, Henry c1857, Sarah c1860 Thomas married Fanny Clark in the 1881 census they are living at 54 Gloster Road Churchdown with children - Edith E c1874 Brockworth, Harry Lane 1876 Churchdown, Walter 1878 Churchdown, william 1882 Brockworth, thomas 1885 brockworth, Adelaide 1885 Brockworth. Harry married Emily Louisa LONG (daur of Thomas and Martha nee Powles) born 1873 Harry was a blacksmith in Hucclecote. His sister Adelaide later lived with them (1901) The LONG family centre around Allstone and Hucclecote and some seemed to be Grocers and I have Thomas Long who was a wines and spirits seller - Royal Oak Hucclecote (1901). Thanks vicky

I am hoping someone may know something of the following family:- Henry Fitzroy (Roy) MEADOWS born 1898 and William MEADOWS (brothers) born c.1900 in Gloucester. They had a sister Lucy Alice born 1904 and their parents were William and Lucy MEADOWS. In 1901 they lived in Wellesley Street, Gloucester. I would like to find out if they remained in Gloucester or moved to London. Margery

Help, please, or suggestions, on trying to find the marriage of this couple, probably around 1831 or 1832. With the assistance of census returns and parish records I have established with some certainty that John BAYLIS was baptized 10 Apr 1808 in Ashchurch, while Mary SPARROW was baptized 28 Oct 1804 in Maisemore. She was the first of nine children. She and one sister were baptized in Maisemore. One brother and another sister were baptized in Gloucester, all in the Church of England. The next 5 children were all baptized in the Independent church in Gloucester. The next I know of Mary is the baptism of her first known child on 11 Nov 1832 in the Independent Chapel in Cheltenham, and another similarly baptized on 25 Nov 1834. Their third known child is my direct ancestor Sarah Ann BAYLIS, born 10 Mar 1838. I have her birth certificate. Both she and three subsequent children were baptized in the Church of England.(one of them at age 9). I cannot find a marriage for this couple. I do have census entries for 1841 and 1851 which confirm the make-up of the family, despite the apparent changes in religious affiliation. Any suggestions on how to find a marriage for them would be appreciated. I have already looked in the obvious places (Ashchurch, Maisemore, Gloucester and Cheltenham) but without success. I suppose it is possible they did not get married at all since non-Conformists were not allowed to perform their own marriages at that time. However, as a family that clearly thought seriously about religion, enough to change their affiliation, I feel confident there would be a marriage ceremony somewhere to avoid the taint of adultery/fornication/illegitimacy. Tim Green (801) 568-9679 (Home) (801) 661-3990 (Cell)

Can somebody please suggest how it is possible to decide where an event likely took place, or simply call it a brick wall and move on to further research? In this particular case I have William and Hannah BARKER having children in Hartpury between 1746 and 1756. The baptism records give the father's name variously as Wm, Willm, and William. I cannot find a marriage in that area, but have found one in Gloucester between William BARKER and Hannah HOOPER on 31 Dec 1743. As Hartpury is less than 10 miles from Gloucester what further research can anybody suggest to decide whether this is the correct marriage? Tim Green (801) 568-9679 (Home) (801) 661-3990 (Cell)

I am looking for more information on this couple who married on 5 Jul 1696 in Coln St Aldwyn. They had 17 children (including one set of twins) between 1697 and 1720, at least 8 of which died in infancy. I am having difficulty in tracing information on either of these people. For Jacob ALLEN I know little more than the marriage. In 1701/1702 he was churchwarden and there is a memorandum in the parish register about a proposal to dedicate one of the pews be for the use of women only with the vicar's wife having the uppermost place in that seat. He was able to read and write, which implies he was more than a labourer, but that is the extent of my knowledge. For Jane RODWAY I have more information, but cannot be sure if I am getting the relationships correct, and I cannot find her baptism date. I believe her parents may be Robert and Elizabeth RODWAY. When she was married to Jacob ALLEN under license, they were both described in the marriage entry as being "of this parish." That is, of course, a very imprecise term, but does imply they have more than a casual relationship with the parish. The parish register of Coln St Aldwyn contains just two christenings for children with the last name RODWAY namely John (1672) and ffrancis (1684). Both entries name the parents as Robert and Elizabeth. Both the parish register and the Bishop's Transcripts for 1696 were signed by Robert RODWAY Junior as churchwarden. He is probably, therefore, the son of Robert RODWAY, although "senior" did not have the precise meaning then as it does today. There is no other mention of RODWAY prior to Robert junior's marriage. It is therefore possible that Robert and Jane were brother and sister, although this cannot be demonstrated conclusively. For example, they could just as easily be cousins. For that matter the two Roberts (senior and junior) could be unrelated but there are so few RODWAY entries in the parish register I do not consider this very likely. Given the 12 year gap between John and ffrancis, Robert junior and Jane would probably have been born between them. Somewhat tantalisingly I have found a christening in Painswick for Robert RODWAY in 1653, father's name Robert. I wonder if this could be the baptism of Robert senior? Robert was not exactly a common name 300 years ago Anyway, any help or suggestions would be warmly welcomed. Tim Green (801) 568-9679 (Home) (801) 661-3990 (Cell)

F&J Baker wrote: > I ask this because we cannot find the birth registered for one of them. > This childs date of birth was written on the army papers as Ernest Hubert ( 20. 6. 15 ) > This child was born a couple of years before they were married, so have looked for him by his mothers maiden name of ROGERS. > The child died age 6 in 1921, and the death was registered with the family's name of BURGE, the family do not know much about him, and both parents are now deceased. > > Any suggestions or information please ? > Frank could it be that the father served overseas & the birth was registered where he was serving at the British Embassy. I seem to recall that the registeres for thes births were recordered separate to the others. -- Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. www.sunzine.net/rockhampton Genealogy Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/

F&J Baker wrote: > Hello Garry > > Thanks for your input, but I should have mentioned that on the army > papers it stated Ernest Hubert ( 20. 6. 15 ) Uckfield, which is in > England. > > Does anyone know if the father would have to produce the birth > certificate for the army authority's records ??? This would help me > to determine if the birth was actually registered. Considering > that this was during WW1, it is possible that the parents did not > register the birth. The birth should have been registered but it is entirely possible that due to WWI, it didn't actually happen, as you surmise. It may also be that it never reached the GRO or was missed out of the GRO index. I take it that you've checked the September and December quarters of 1915? Being so late in June, it's possible that the birth was in the next quarter. The War may have pushed it over into the December one. Since you know where the birth was, you could try the relevant local register office to see if they have a record of the birth. Another possibility is that the birth might have been registered in a completely different place than the one expected. -- Charani (UK)

Still trying to find any information on William HARTWELL born around 1752 Sutton Under Brailes, Gloucestershire married Francis (Mary) Baker born around 1776 Tredington church June 9th 1778 I have no actual confirmation of these dates being accurate still trying to find them. There are a number of family trees online that are looking at HARTWELL families around these dates in these areas but non that include a William who later married Mary BAKER. Christine Hartwell Oregon USA