Hi Ann I doesn't quite go that way! My James Tovey 1742 born in Preston is the Son of a James Tovey and Jane Palmer. James Tovey married Anne Deverell 1765 in Minchinhampton. Anne is the daughter of Thomas Deverell and Mary Heaven. Mary Heaven/Haven born 1705 is the daughter of Samuel Heaven and Agnes Craddock. Some of James Tovey and Anne Deverell's great grandchildren (Gaston family) did go to Austriala Maybe this is close enough to count? Regards Carolyn

Hi, We have a possible Aunt who was a Mary Josephine Trotman, she was born in Stroud in 1874 and had a sister Katherine Ann born in Stroud in 1876. Their mother was Mary Jones born in Onibury nr Ludlow and christened in 1838-9. This lady was always referred to as Aunt by my Father's generation but I have not yet found a family connection.At best it will be distant. Best wishes, Katherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Be" <hystfield2006@yahoo.co.uk> To: "gloucester" <gloucester-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: [GLS] Surname research > Hi researchers > > I trust you are all climbing your trees and jumping over your brickwalls on this fine day, > > Now... my surnames. (Originated in Gloucestershire) BEARD, HOBBY, TUDOR, (Varients) TROTMAN, BRITTAIN (Varients) SHORT, PRATT, NEWMAN DERRETT, RUDMAN, o'h yes I have then as well the SMITH family, strong Wotton under Edge connection, originatin from the Stroud area > > RUDMAN (Box Wilts) > > LUSMORE (Varients) Devon, South Wales, and Gloucestershire > > regards > > Alf > > > > > --------------------------------- > Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, Yes, I did that too. I got over 6000 hits with the name Wall, so I put it in under genealogy and only got 245. About half of them were about walls being built, repaired and falling but the rest did have the surname Wall and in Tewksbury! Since it was a tight knit community back in the 1700 and early 1800's, I consider all of them potential relatives and am keeping them until I can find them in births, deaths and Wills through the FH Center's later. Thanks, Janet <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi, My only surname is WALL. I see that you have it also. Mine were from Tewksbury. Janet <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hello Patricia, A2A is Access to Archives. It is provided by the National Archives, Kew. The site provides a search facility that will/might tell the searcher where a document is located that contains the word or phrase entered in terms of the Archives that have submitted information. The name of the Archive Office is provided and references to the documents located are provided. An extract from the document, with the dearch term highlighted in yellow is provided. Sometimes this gives all the information that you might need without having to gain access to the original document. I hope that I have covered everything but surnames names that are also places or objects cause problems.... Cheers, Janet Heskins

Hi David, Do you know what part of Gloucestershire the Bidmeads come from? Here are 2 marriages of a William. .WILLIAM BIDMEAD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Marriage: 21 JAN 1816 Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England to Hannah Jones Gardiner William Bidmead - International Genealogical Index --probably born Bisley Gender: Male Marriage: < 1822> , Gloucester, England to Sarah? Good hunting, Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jones" <davidjones5512@btinternet.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: [GLS] Bidmead and other spelling > Hi List, > > Looking for any Information on my Bidmead family. > > James Allen Bidmead in 1861 census is listed as born in Gloucestershire > aged 40. Married and living in Glamorgan > > I have his marriage cert. > > 28 June 1853 James Allen Bidmead aged 32 Bachelor Plate Layer Father > William Bidmead Block Layer. > > > This is all I have , please help. > > > David > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have James Allen Bidmead on 1861 census RG9 / 4070 / 60 / 35 James Allen on 1871 Census RG10 / 5411 / 29 / 1 James Allen on 1881 Census RG11 / 5313 / 121 / 3 I know that 1861 & 1871 census's are the same man not sure about 1881 ( given as born Kingston Gloucestershire ). The children are a bit messed on the census records they should be. Thomas c 1853 Hannah 2 Oct 1856 (my 2nd greatgrand mother) Amy c 1857 Joan c 1859 March qtr ref 11a 401 Margaret C 1860 Dec qtr ref 11a 338 William C 1863 Mar qtr ref 11a 369 I have not found Thomas & Amy on the FreeBMD site as yet and have a Eli June qtr 1855 ref 11a 336. Where is James 1841 & 1851 census? Any help will be great. Regards David

Hi Josephine & Listers. Thanks for your Bidmead information. I know that there were and I think still are Bidmead in the Rhondda ( Ystradyfodwg ) I have at yet found any conection. Regards David

On 11 Mar, David Jones <davidjones5512@btinternet.com> wrote: > Looking for any Information on my Bidmead family. > James Allen Bidmead in 1861 census is listed as born in Gloucestershire > aged 40. Married and living in Glamorgan > 28 June 1853 James Allen Bidmead aged 32 Bachelor Plate Layer Father > William Bidmead Block Layer. Hi David, I have a little BIDMEAD information, but whether it connects with your Glamorgan BIDMEAD family, I don't know. I haven't done any further research on this line. Lucy DEY, the sister of my husband's great-grandmother, Annie L. DEY, married a BIDMEAD. Lucy DAY (sic), a 19-year-old spinster, and bachelor, William BIDMEAD, 21, were married, by banns, on 26th. January 1893 at the church of St. John the Baptist, Ystradyfodwg. Lucy's father was recorded as James DAY, while William's father was Alfred BIDMEAD. Josephine -- Josephine's Books, Ian's Pages, The Clutton 'Do' and the Glamorganshire Canal. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hi Jeff, I don't know if any other insurance company's records are on A2A apart from Sun Insurance. They have been around for a long time. You may have seen the brass sun symbols with a number below in old buildings. The records are held at Guildhall Library. Extracts from their archives are on A2A, so that is how I found them. I followed up my own suggestion by looking up the partner of William HESKINS, John MUMFORD. He continued in business longer than William, which gives me an indication of when William dropped out of the frame [died?] - about 1826, Best wishes with your search. Janet Heskins

Hi List, Looking for any Information on my Bidmead family. James Allen Bidmead in 1861 census is listed as born in Gloucestershire aged 40. Married and living in Glamorgan I have his marriage cert. 28 June 1853 James Allen Bidmead aged 32 Bachelor Plate Layer Father William Bidmead Block Layer. This is all I have , please help. David

Hi Carolyn, No one ever has a HESKINS ancestor on this Forum....so who is she???? Desperate to know. I probagly know something about others on your list Janet Heskins You wrote: Maternal ancestors TOVEY,LUCAS,CHAPPEL,DAY,CLOSE,DEVERELL,BOWLEY,PALMER,HEAVEN,CURTIS, NEWTH, WOOD, HESKINS, CRADDOCK, PURNELL, HAMBAGE, SMITH, HOPKINS, BENNETT, BALL, DAY, IND, WORKMAN,DENTON,GRIFFIN

Hi Janet, I can understand your problem with the names WALL and LAND.... I tried putting the surname, WINDOW, in to A2A and had references to all sorts of glassy things, people breaking them and falling out of them but no surname references. I then tried putting in 'blacksmith' and that was a little more productive. I wonder if there is a way round the problem of a surname that is also the name of an object or a place. On Google it can be overcome to some extent by entering the name plus genealogy but A2A asks for an exact phrase. One source that I would not have come across apart from A2A is the Sun Insurance Company records. William HESKINS, who must have come from Horsley in my reckoning [as a William was born there, travelled to London frequently according to the parish records, and was not buried in Horsley] appears several times as being in partnership in a lace warehouse establishment. From these records, 1820's and thereabouts, it is possible to gain information on his partnrers in the business, where he lived, his status and probably his year of death. The latter by finding out if the names of partners continues after his disappears from the records. I haven't done that yet as it has only occured to me as I write.... Cheers, Janet Heskins

Christine, Most of my CARPENTER line is from the Radstock area in Somerset. I do however have research received from one John R Carpenter in California which "connects" my line to a CARPENTER line in Bradford on Tone in Somerset. I'm not sure if this is near Bucks or not. Also, researching in Somerset, ASHMAN, BEACHAM, BESLEY, BRITTAIN, CATCOT, CHILTON CREW, CROWE, DIBBLE, GOULD, GULLOCK, HEAL, HARDING, JAMES, JENKINS, HORLER, HARDY, ILES, LEE, LOCKYER, MAISHAM, NURCOMBE, POOLE, PRICE, SELLICK, SELWAY, SHEARN, SCURFIELD, SPILLER,STOGHILL, TREASURE, TREMLETT, WOODWARD, and WALL Best regards, Jim Hazlett JHazl@aol.com <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Maternal ancestors TOVEY,LUCAS,CHAPPEL,DAY,CLOSE,DEVERELL,BOWLEY,PALMER,HEAVEN,CURTIS, NEWTH, WOOD, HESKINS, CRADDOCK, PURNELL, HAMBAGE, SMITH, HOPKINS, BENNETT, BALL, DAY, IND, WORKMAN,DENTON,GRIFFIN AREA: Avening, Minchinhampton, Preston, Hazelton, Eastington, Horsley etc. Thanks Carolyn

I have maternal and paternal families I am looking for: Paternal HART, HOLLISTER, DYER/DIER/YEWEN/STEVENS/PARKER/OWEN/ADEY/OWEN/HALE/WITCHELL/IRELAND/HILL/HANCOCK/SMITH/MANBY Areas of Wooton underedge, Kingswood, Uley,Wickwar, Hawkesbury,Dursley, Thanks Carolyn Ostler

Hi researchers I trust you are all climbing your trees and jumping over your brickwalls on this fine day, Now... my surnames. (Originated in Gloucestershire) BEARD, HOBBY, TUDOR, (Varients) TROTMAN, BRITTAIN (Varients) SHORT, PRATT, NEWMAN DERRETT, RUDMAN, o'h yes I have then as well the SMITH family, strong Wotton under Edge connection, originatin from the Stroud area RUDMAN (Box Wilts) LUSMORE (Varients) Devon, South Wales, and Gloucestershire regards Alf --------------------------------- Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail.

Me too with CARPENTER, LEMON, POOLE, SHOEMAKER, PAINTER, TREASURE and WALL! JHazl@aol.com <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Any of your CARPENTERs ever stray to Edgecote, Grendon Underwood, Bucks Christine Hartwell Oregon USA ----- Original Message ----- From: <JHazl@aol.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] GLOUCESTER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 165 > Me too with CARPENTER, LEMON, POOLE, SHOEMAKER, PAINTER, TREASURE and > WALL! > JHazl@aol.com

Hi Jenny, Here she is. Dallas 1891 England Census about Alice M Organ Name: Alice M Organ Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Shurdington, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Cheltenham Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frederick I Adken 7 Georgena N Adken 5 Georgenia E Adken 40 Harry K Adken 39 James H Adken 12 Rolet D Adken 2 Walter K Adken 10 Rose E Giles 16 Henry W Griffith 20 Otway D Moun 18 Alice M Organ 24 Kate L Palmer 44 Edvard I Thompson 18 Elizabeth Wallace 19 ________________________________ From: jenny buckley [mailto:jenny_buckley@hotmail.com] Sent: Sun 11/03/2007 7:09 AM To: gloucester@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLS] organ Hi, Am looking for a ALICE M ORGAN on the 1891 census she was born in 1868 shurdington cheltenham gloucestershire so she will be about 23 years old, could anyone help on this census, many thanks, jenny _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message