Dear Listers, I have a slight problem with my Francis GILLMAN's and hope someone may be able to assist. 1. Francis GILLMAN born December qtr., 1844 Stroud - Christened 2 November 1845 Horsley - son of Edwin GILLMAN & Sarah LEONARD. 2. Francis GILLMAN born December qtr., 1844 Stroud - Christened 24 November 1844 Horsley - son of William GILLMAN & ? ?. I have two possible wives for William - Mary HAND or Mary Ann TROTMAN. 3. Francis Edward GILLMAN born June qtr., 1844 Stroud. Who are his Parents ? Either Francis no 1., or Francis no 2. married Mary Ann HARRINGTON on 10 February 1878 in Horsley. Which one ? If anyone can help sort out these Francis's I would be most grateful. Many thanks, Judy.

Hi List, I've found my Bidmead family, though not my ancestor James Allen Bidmead. His parents were in SAPPERTON , Gloucestershire on the 1841 & 1851 census William & Hannah. How did I find them ? James Allen Bidmead had a daughter Margaret Bidmead born Cwmbach , Aberdare, Glamorgan and on the 1881 census she was in Middlesex with an Uncle Martin Buckland. I found Martin on FreeBMD June Qtr 1855 Lambeth married Hannah Bidmead The 1861 census confirmed she was born Sapperton. If anybody has the parish records for Sapperton I would like the Bidmead records PLEASE. Regards David http://uk.geocities.com/davidjones5512@btinternet.com/Index.htm Penrhys Cemetery Burial Index

Hi List, Time I listed part of my Gloucestershire Family Bidmead / Bidmaid pre 1861 Forest of Dean Meek Cloudley Cook(e) Gough Harris Tingle Phillips Newent Green Churcham Wood Newent Birt Churcham Holford Davies Regards David

Carolyn I have an interest in the name BOWLEY though not exactly in the areas you list and the other names you list are not familiar. Do you have any BOWLEYs of Down Ampney or Kempsford in your line? Martin Bowley Oxfordshire GFHS & OFHS member ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Ostler" <COHB284@msn.com> To: "GLOUCESTER-L" <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Ancestors #2 > Maternal ancestors > TOVEY,LUCAS,CHAPPEL,DAY,CLOSE,DEVERELL,BOWLEY,PALMER,HEAVEN,CURTIS, NEWTH, WOOD, HESKINS, > CRADDOCK, PURNELL, HAMBAGE, SMITH, HOPKINS, BENNETT, BALL, DAY, IND, WORKMAN,DENTON,GRIFFIN > > AREA: Avening, Minchinhampton, Preston, Hazelton, Eastington, Horsley etc. > > Thanks > Carolyn > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release Date: 11/03/07 09:27 > >

Hi Jan, Thank you for refreshing my memory on the Wall family. Ann Jan Daly <jdaly270@bigpond.net.au> wrote: Hi Listers I have just arrived home from work and downloaded about 25 messages from the list - it is certainly very active. I notice that there have been a couple of mentions of the Wall family. Like Ann's friend I am a descendant of Matthew Everingham and Elizabeth Rymes and I have a copy of "Cornstalks" - a magnificent tome by Valerie Ross that sets out all of his descendants up to 1988. Fortunately it is indexed by surname. I had a look under Wall. It seems that the Walls married into the family of Sarah Everingham, the eldest daughter of Matthew and Elizabeth who survived to adulthood. It does not look as though there is a Gloucestershire connection. Donald Wall b c 1857 Nundle married Annie Medhurst, b 11 Mar 1858 in Wollombi. Donald Wall was the son of William Wall b Ireland, and Christine McPhee. Christine was the daughter of Donald McPhee, b Scotland & Anna Handebo, b Ireland. My own Gloucestershire interest is in the BEARD and LOVELACE families. Regards Jan in Sydney, NSW _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Janet, Thank you for sharing your Wall family but none of them sound like the ones I found for Estelle. good luck with your search Ann JANLWH@aol.com wrote: Hi Ann, My Wall line is from Tewksbury (William WALL) born 1791. His parents were John WALL and Nancy unknown. William is later found in Slaughterford, Wiltshire (not too far away) married to Elizabeth unknown born 1786 in Wiltshire. He was a farmer. They have at least 3 sons William (19), Thomas (15) and Richard (10) on the 1841 census. Richard WALL later moved to Breconshire, Wales and was a miner. He married Naomi Stephens and their son William WALL married Elizabeth TRUSCOTT and they were the parents of my grandfather, Alban Truscott WALL. It was said that William left his family to go to America to look for gold in California. Alban Truscott WALL came to Pennsylvania, USA with his TRUSCOTT grandparents in 1887 when he was 5. He worked in the coal miner's there from the age of 10 until he was disabled with Black Lung at around 45-50 yrs. old. Imagine being only 50 yrs. old and already having 40 years of work under your belt!!!! I head from another list member that Tewksbury was a tight knit town in the period that my WALL family lived there. I am assuming that most or all of the WALLS from there at that time are related in some way to my family. It was kind of like the small town that I grew up in Pennsylvania. I don't know too much about the WALLS because of the abandonment of my 2nd ggf William WALL so it is very possible that my WALL family from Tewksbury spread all around the world where ever England had a strong hold. It reminds me of the last scene in "How Green Was MY Valley." The author was showing his Mother a world map and locating for her the places that her children had gone. South African, South America, USA and Australia. It made me sad to see this close family spread all over the world, especially when travel was only possible by a long sea voyage. I sure would love to other WALL families from the Tewksbury and Slaughterford are. Any WALL information from this area would be very much appreciated. Janet in VA, USA --------------------------------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Carolyn, Thanks for replying. If your Palmers had come from St Marylebone London I might have been able to include them. Ann Carolyn Ostler <COHB284@msn.com> wrote: Hi Ann I doesn't quite go that way! My James Tovey 1742 born in Preston is the Son of a James Tovey and Jane Palmer. James Tovey married Anne Deverell 1765 in Minchinhampton. Anne is the daughter of Thomas Deverell and Mary Heaven. Mary Heaven/Haven born 1705 is the daughter of Samuel Heaven and Agnes Craddock. Some of James Tovey and Anne Deverell's great grandchildren (Gaston family) did go to Austriala Maybe this is close enough to count? Regards Carolyn _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I am researching George Davis and Elizabeth Nichols, married 31 Jul 1814 in Berkeley. I believe this George Davis was the son of Thomas Davis and Ann Hale, who was christened 6 Jul 1783 in Slimbridge. From the will of Thomas Davis, George was alive when Thomas died in 1823. Thomas willed all his Blacksmith tools to George. >From the 1841 census, I find a George Davis and wife Elizabeth living in the Parish of Berkeley and this George is listed as a Blacksmith. There are no children listed. I would like to hear from anyone researching this family. Thanks, James Davis GFHS Member #A7079 <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I am searching for information on Thomas Davis from Slimbridge and Hester Clifford, married 16 Jan 1810 in Horsley. I believe this Thomas Davis is the son of Thomas Davis and Ann Hale who was christened 6 Jan 1780 in Slimbridge. >From the 1841 census, I find a Thomas Davis born about 1780, who's wife is named Hester and they are living in Frocester. Hester's age is listed as 45, which would make her birth year about 1796. >From the 1841census, they have the following children: Louisa Davis, born abt. 1828 Matilda Davis, born abt. 1832 Maria Davis, born abt. 1836 Thomas's occupation is listed as Ag Lab. I can find a Thomas Davis buried 25 Feb 1847 in Frocester and I believe this is the same person, as he does not appear in the 1851 census. If anyone out there is researching this family, I would like to hear from you. Thanks, James Davis GFHS Member #A7079 <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I'm not certain that this ties into the recent thresd on the WALL line, but in tracing my JAMES family I find the marriage in 1770 in Clutton, Somersetshire of my Elisha JAMES and Betty WALL. There are other WALLs mentioned in Clutton ( near Bath ) at that time, but I think they were brothers of Betty and not her parent. Does any WALL researcher have a Somerset connection?? Regards, Jim Hazlett JHazl@aol.com <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I'm interested in HOLFORD connections out there. Edwin Holford, born 1831 in Bulley married Kezia Wellington, 1860 in Westbury on Severn. Edwin was the son of John Holford and Rachel Lodge, married 1821 in Churcham. Eager to share! Mary Lou

Froggatt - St Briavels http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodboard/mix_entry.php?id=4230#p4230 from last September ....... East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

Just thought I would add to this. If you go to the advanced search type in your name plus another search phrase. This maybe a city or county, then click th box mark "all words" or similar you can also search for exact phase, this allows you to put in full names. This is the case for many search engines. There is also an area which searches entry's from outside the a2a website, not sure how, but in my search for Elizabeth Allen on the a2a site I clicked on an interesting entry and was direct to the Ancestry site?? Caroline > I have a very awkward name to search for as well "BRICK". I get > Brick > walls, Brickyards, Brickworks, etc. > > Eveline > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> > > > JANETHESKI@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I can understand your problem with the names WALL > and >

Hi Alison and to the list, We havent worked out a connection yet but Julie can remember her family talking about the GEORGE family of the Barton area of Gloucester. This is my family. Other familar names which Julie can remember are Dangerfield and Day. Anne

Dianne in the 1841 census for Gloucestershire , St James District 2 page 5 in ancestry City of Bristol Parish of St James Within I have found Richard Froggatt age 30 Surgeon not born in county Sarah age 35 not born in county Frances age 10 not born in county James age 5 not born in county Eliza age 4 born in county Charles age 2 born in county Is this them? Christine Hartwell Oregon USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim and Dianne Fraser" <frasers@xtra.co.nz> To: <GLOUCESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:31 PM Subject: [GLS] ?Parishes or areas missing from 1841 census > Can SKS tell me if there are any missing areas in Gloucestershire from the > 1841 census. I think a family I am researching on my husband's side were > likely to be in St Briavels in 1841 but I cannot find them on the census. > I have tried to think laterally but had no success. > > The father was Joseph Froggatt surgeon, mother probably Sarah and children > Eliza about 2 and Charles about 1 year old. This is not the family of > Richard and Sarah Froggatt. > > These two children were born at St Briavles and were certainly there in > 1839 when they were baptised - they were in Woolastone in 1842.(A baptism > of another child) > > I am presuming that Joseph Froggatt though it "says surgeon" in 1851 was > probably a barber or something similar. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Dianne Fraser > near Wellington > New Zealand > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne Julie is just moving house and is going to contact me when she gets back on line. Julie is my new found cousin in Oz and as soon as I get her new email address, I will sent it to you. Are you connected to The Welshman family? If so please contact me with your details and I can give you my connection to the Welshman Family. Kind regards and hope to hear from you soon Alison Horspool ----- Original Message ----- From: <Annechapple6@aol.com> To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: [GLS] off topic JULIE WELSHMAN > Hi, > I have just rejoined to try and track down Julie Welshman, she was on the > list about 2 yrs ago. I have tried both her email addresses from the > archieve > list but they have both been returned. > Can anyone help please. > > Anne > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have BLIZARD, SMITH & CHALLENGER Frustrating isn't it Helen McNamara NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Clarke" <aclarke22@toucansurf.com> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Use of A2A...an example. >I have a very awkward name to search for as well "BRICK". I get Brick > walls, Brickyards, Brickworks, etc. > > Eveline > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> > >> JANETHESKI@aol.com wrote: >> >> > I can understand your problem with the names WALL and > LAND.... I >> > tried putting the surname, WINDOW, in to A2A and had references to all > sorts >> > of glassy things, people breaking them and falling out of them but no > surname >> > references. >> >> >> I have a similar problem with the name DINES, esp when it comes to >> seaching newspapers!! >> >> JOYCE, another of my names always throws up the given name as well as >> the surname. >> >> It's a pity there's no way of specifying that it's a *surname* that's >> wanted. >> >> -- >> Charani (UK) >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release Date: 11/03/2007 > 9:27 AM > >

Gary Could this be her? 1841 census -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHEPPARD, Henry M 35 SHEPPARD, Henry M 16 SHEPPARD, Elizabeth F 18 SHEPPARD, Isabela F 12 Gloucestershire SHEPPARD, Rosa F 9 Gloucestershire -------------------------------------------------------------------- Address: Chance Street Olburg, Tewkesbury. No relationships given in census. No other likely ones found Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" <adslmllu@tpg.com.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [GLS] Rosa SHEPHERD > Can someone help me here please as I'm confused again/still. :) > I have a Rosa SHEPHERD in the 1851 census, aged 17, born in Thornbury > but I can't find her on the 1841 (on Ancestry.com) census. > In 1834, (the year Rosa was suppose to be born) Mark & Sara had another > child Betty Susan SHEPHERD. :-\ > > What I want to know is who are the parents of Rosa; Mark & Sarah SHEPHERD > ? > Any & all help greatly > appreciated. > > -- > Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. > www.sunzine.net/rockhampton > Genealogy Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers I have just arrived home from work and downloaded about 25 messages from the list - it is certainly very active. I notice that there have been a couple of mentions of the Wall family. Like Ann's friend I am a descendant of Matthew Everingham and Elizabeth Rymes and I have a copy of "Cornstalks" - a magnificent tome by Valerie Ross that sets out all of his descendants up to 1988. Fortunately it is indexed by surname. I had a look under Wall. It seems that the Walls married into the family of Sarah Everingham, the eldest daughter of Matthew and Elizabeth who survived to adulthood. It does not look as though there is a Gloucestershire connection. Donald Wall b c 1857 Nundle married Annie Medhurst, b 11 Mar 1858 in Wollombi. Donald Wall was the son of William Wall b Ireland, and Christine McPhee. Christine was the daughter of Donald McPhee, b Scotland & Anna Handebo, b Ireland. My own Gloucestershire interest is in the BEARD and LOVELACE families. Regards Jan in Sydney, NSW

Hi Joan, Thank you for your reply, sorry I do not know anything at all. I wish I did, and then maybe a could find a Marriage. This family has been so hard to find anything on, so thank you for your message, it gives me a bit of hope. My best wishes, Pat. Joan Rooney wrote: >Hi Pat, > >I'm researching THOMAS in Kings Stanley and Leonard Stanley, two villages >close to Stroud. There were a lot of Thomases in the area. Do you know any >more about Catherine? > >Regards, >Joan >Ottawa >----- Original Message ----- >From: "patluv57" <patluv57@iprimus.com.au> >To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:09 PM >Subject: [GLS] Davies, Brown or Thomas > > > > >>Dear List, >>Trying to a connect to this family please: >> >>John Davies & Catherine Nee Brown or Thomas >> >>Children: >>George Thomas Davies born about 1821 Stroud >>Susannah Davies >>Anne Davies Married W Roose, she died at sea. >>William Davies >>Richard Davies born about 1836 >> >>Please if there is anyone researching this family, I would love to hear >>from you. >>Best wishes, >>Pat. >>_____________________________________________ >> >>Browse the list archives at: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >>Keyword search - any or all lists: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > >Browse the list archives at: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > >Keyword search - any or all lists: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >