And this looks like James and family in the 1851 and 61 census records of Down Ampney: HO107/1968, folio 589, pages 4/5 James HAYWARD Head Mar 42 Sawyer Gloshre Down Ampney Maria do Wife Mar 33 do do Stephen do Son 10 Ag Lab do do Elizabeth do Daur 9 Scholar do do James do Son 8 do do do George do Son 6 do do do Caroline do Daur 4 do do John do Son 3 do do 1861 census of Down Ampney RG9/1784, folio 42/3, pages 4/5 James HAYWARD Head Mar 52 Sawyer Gloucestershire Down Ampney Maria do Wife Mar 41 do do Stephen do Son Un 20 Ag Lab do do James do Son Un 19 do do do George do Son Un 16 do do do Caroline do Daur 14 Scholar do do John do Son 13 do do do Mary Ann do Daur 7 do do do The record above this one at The Lodge shows a Joseph HAYWARD, aged 54, Gardener, born Down Ampney, wife Jane, 56, born Cornwall and children Ann aged 21 Dressmaker, Fanny aged 16 both born Down Ampney and niece Catherine HAYWARD, aged 8, Scholar, born Somerset, Bath. Perhaps they are connected??? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret J. Muntz" <muntz@hunterlink.net.au> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] CHARLOTTE HAYWARD - Down Ampney > Paul > It looks as if this is Charlotte in 1841 census but with the ages and no > relationships in 41 census. Could James be an older brother with wife and > child, and 2 of James's sister Charlotte and Ann. Working on this > assumption > the IGI have James' christening in 1809 to a Stephen and Elizth. > (Elizabeth) > There is also another children to them Elizabeth ch 1811, Joseph 1807 all > at > Down Ampney > 41 census > Name Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original > census > image > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > HAYWARD, James M 30 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Maria F 20 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Charlotte F 13 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Ann F 10 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Stephen M 1 Gloucestershire VIEW > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > RG number: > HO107 Piece: > 354 Folio: > 10 Page: > 15 > > Registration District: > Cirencester Sub District: > Fairford EnumerationDistrict: > Ecclesiastical Parish: > > > Civil Parish: > Down Ampney Municipal Borough: > Address: > Down Ampney, Down Ampney > > Another senario could be that Maria is not James's wife but another > sibling and Stephen is hers or a nephew. > Sorry I do not have the 51 census to follow these possibilities. > But looks like child named after his grandfather! > Oddly Stephen and Elizabeth are still alive living in Down Anpmey > Census > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > HAYWARD, Stephen M 52 Gloucestershire VIEW > HAYWARD, Elizabeth F 50 Gloucestershire VIEW > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > RG number: > HO107 Piece: > 354 Folio: > 11 Page: > 16 > > Registration District: > Cirencester Sub District: > Fairford EnumerationDistrict: > Ecclesiastical Parish: > > > Civil Parish: > Down Ampney Municipal Borough: > Address: > Down Ampney, Down Ampney > > Sorry this does not prove Charlottes' parents but hope it gives > you something to progress from. > There is an outside chance that James is her father and maria > is > a second wife. > Regards > Marg > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hansford" <paul@hansford11.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <ENG-GLS-CIRENCESTER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:52 PM > Subject: [GLS] CHARLOTTE HAYWARD - Down Ampney > > >> Dear All >> Could anyone help me find the parents of Charlotte Hayward born about >> 1828 >> in Down Ampney please. >> Charlotte married Joseph Messenger of Latton in 1849. >> Thank you. >> Regards >> Paul >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/752 - Release Date: > 08/04/2007 20:34 > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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Paul It looks as if this is Charlotte in 1841 census but with the ages and no relationships in 41 census. Could James be an older brother with wife and child, and 2 of James's sister Charlotte and Ann. Working on this assumption the IGI have James' christening in 1809 to a Stephen and Elizth. (Elizabeth) There is also another children to them Elizabeth ch 1811, Joseph 1807 all at Down Ampney 41 census Name Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original census image -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAYWARD, James M 30 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Maria F 20 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Charlotte F 13 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Ann F 10 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Stephen M 1 Gloucestershire VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 354 Folio: 10 Page: 15 Registration District: Cirencester Sub District: Fairford EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Down Ampney Municipal Borough: Address: Down Ampney, Down Ampney Another senario could be that Maria is not James's wife but another sibling and Stephen is hers or a nephew. Sorry I do not have the 51 census to follow these possibilities. But looks like child named after his grandfather! Oddly Stephen and Elizabeth are still alive living in Down Anpmey Census -------------------------------------------------------------------- HAYWARD, Stephen M 52 Gloucestershire VIEW HAYWARD, Elizabeth F 50 Gloucestershire VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: HO107 Piece: 354 Folio: 11 Page: 16 Registration District: Cirencester Sub District: Fairford EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Down Ampney Municipal Borough: Address: Down Ampney, Down Ampney Sorry this does not prove Charlottes' parents but hope it gives you something to progress from. There is an outside chance that James is her father and maria is a second wife. Regards Marg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hansford" <paul@hansford11.fsnet.co.uk> To: <GLOUCESTER@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ENG-GLS-CIRENCESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:52 PM Subject: [GLS] CHARLOTTE HAYWARD - Down Ampney > Dear All > Could anyone help me find the parents of Charlotte Hayward born about 1828 > in Down Ampney please. > Charlotte married Joseph Messenger of Latton in 1849. > Thank you. > Regards > Paul > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help with my Frederick Allen, he is my brick wall and can go no further without help. I have convict records that give his age and place of residence (Downend). There is a entry on the IGI's for him but this was not from records and was submitted by a unknown person. I think his mother may have been Elizabeth Allen, as she is mentioned on the convict records, he also named three of his daughters Elizabeth, and two sons Frederick, so just a guess his parents maybe Frederick and Elizabeth. Does anyone have some suggestions, have had several people from this list look into the census records for Elizabeth but cannot say if anyone of them are the one I am looking for. Frederick was in here in Australia by 1828. Any suggestions help is much appreciated thanks Caroline

Dear All Could anyone help me find the parents of Charlotte Hayward born about 1828 in Down Ampney please. Charlotte married Joseph Messenger of Latton in 1849. Thank you. Regards Paul

Hi All, Could someone lookup the birth of MYRECK LOCKE, or BOSWELL at HAWKESBURY in or around, 1777. May be listed as a gypsy! Any help much appreciated! [smile] Kind regards, Gerry.

1871 Bristol City Workhouse Mark Appleby abt 1863 Bristol Inmate Stapleton Gloucestershire William Appleby abt 1866 Bristol Inmate Stapleton Gloucestershire but then the trail is a little cold... the couple you asked about appear to be 1851 Charles Appleby abt 1824 Bristol Head Bristol St James Gloucestershire Elizabeth Appleby abt 1829 Bristol Wife Bristol St James Gloucestershire Richard Appleby abt 1849 Bristol Son Bristol St James Gloucestershire 1861 Elizh Appleby abt 1833 Bristol Wife Bristol St James Gloucestershire Charles Appleby abt 1851 Bristol Son Bristol St James Gloucestershire Francis Appleby abt 1860 Bristol Son Bristol St James Gloucestershire Maria Appleby abt 1854 Bristol Daughter Bristol St James Gloucestershire Richd Appleby abt 1849 Bristol Son Bristol St James Gloucestershire East of London FHS member All e'mail scanned by McAfee virusscan

Thankyou all for responses in regards to my Baylis/Bayliss family. Cheers Jan in Australia

Hello List, Looking for a big favour. Would anyone have or be able to take a picture for us of " The Vicarage ". Where the GUY family spent many years working. 1881 census RG/ 2558 folio 18 page 8. Kempsford, Gloucestershire . Frederick b 1840, Sarah 1834, Rose 1871, William 1873. Your help would be very much appreciated. If this is possible. Any history would also be of interest to us. Kind Regards, Pat ( Canada )

Pat A lot of work has been done on children from Bristol who went to Canada by Shirley Hodgson. You can find about it on the website of the Bristol & Avon FHS at www.bafhs.org.uk. Shirley is always looking for more information, and I am sure she would be pleased to hear from you. Bob Lawrence Chairman BAFHS -----Original Message----- From: Pat Marshall [mailto:oldcrone@sympatico.ca] Sent: 06 April 2007 15:28 To: Gloucester Subject: [GLS] APPLEBY I have a Mark Appleby born in Bristol Sept Q of 1861 who was a British Home Child who came to Hastings County, Ontario sometime in 1877. When he married here in 1886, at age 22, he listed his parents as Charles & Elizabeth Appleby. Would anyone be able to locate this Appleby family on any Bristol census data? I found only one marriage in Bristol on BMD for a Chares Appleby & Elizabeth Bines, Mar Q 1847, so they should both appear on the 1851 & 1861 & at least one of them on the 1871 census. I am trying to do an article on the BHC who came to this area for an upcoming book in celebration of my Township's 150th anniversary and any help with this APPLEBY family would be greatly appreciated! Pat Marshall Stirling, Ontario

1871 England Census about Mark Appleby Name: Mark Appleby Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Civil parish: Stapleton Ecclesiastical parish: Fishponds Town: Stapleton County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England View image Class: RG10; Piece: 2575; Folio: 22; Page: 2 Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: Stapleton ED, institution, or vessel: Bristol City Workhouse Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Mark Appleby 8 William Appleby 5 This could be his parents in 1861 1851 England Census about Charles Appleby Name: Charles Appleby Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bristol Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil parish County/Island Elizabeth Appleby Charles abt 1829 Bristol Wife Bristol St James Gloucestershire Domestic Richard Appleby Charles, Elizabeth abt 1849 Bristol Son Bristol St James Gloucestershire Civil parish: Bristol St James County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Gravel Street No 9 Occupation: Printer ( or painter - v faint!) Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 1j Household schedule number: 67 Household Members: Name Age Charles Appleby 27 Elizabeth Appleby 22 Richard Appleby 2 Bartholomew Dunley 53 lodger. Catherine Dunley 48 Francis Dunley 3 John Dunley 19 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1950; Folio: 193; Page: 17; There is this Charles whose death is recorded in Bristol, who could be his father Deaths Mar 1870 Appleby Charles 44 Bristol 6a 38 HTH Anne On 6 Apr 2007, at 15:28, Pat Marshall wrote: > I have a Mark Appleby born in Bristol Sept Q of 1861 who was a British > Home > Child who came to Hastings County, Ontario sometime in 1877. > When he married here in 1886, at age 22, he listed his parents as > Charles & > Elizabeth Appleby. > Would anyone be able to locate this Appleby family on any Bristol > census > data? > I found only one marriage in Bristol on BMD for a Chares Appleby & > Elizabeth > Bines, Mar Q 1847, so they should both appear on the 1851 & 1861 & at > least > one of them on the 1871 census. > I am trying to do an article on the BHC who came to this area for an > upcoming book in celebration of my Township's 150th anniversary and > any help > with this APPLEBY family would be greatly appreciated! > Pat Marshall > Stirling, Ontario > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a Mark Appleby born in Bristol Sept Q of 1861 who was a British Home Child who came to Hastings County, Ontario sometime in 1877. When he married here in 1886, at age 22, he listed his parents as Charles & Elizabeth Appleby. Would anyone be able to locate this Appleby family on any Bristol census data? I found only one marriage in Bristol on BMD for a Chares Appleby & Elizabeth Bines, Mar Q 1847, so they should both appear on the 1851 & 1861 & at least one of them on the 1871 census. I am trying to do an article on the BHC who came to this area for an upcoming book in celebration of my Township's 150th anniversary and any help with this APPLEBY family would be greatly appreciated! Pat Marshall Stirling, Ontario

Hi, had a look at some of our records today and nothing at all - our Electoral registers begin in the first year that Jackson was in the shop! However the Archives in Gloucester will have the earlier ones. Hope that they can come up with something of interest for you. Talking to one of my colleagues from there today and she told me that they are working on minimum staff at the moment so there may be a wait. Be patient! Lynne Rhoda Winger wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > I was wondering if there were any other records that could be checked like a > list of members of a Gloucestershire building Society for instance? > > Would you be so kind as to have a look for me, please? > > Rhoda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne & Nigel" <nj_lm@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 4:01 AM > Subject: Re: [GLS] Cheltenham Records 1868-71 - Absolem > > >> Whilst at work today [Chelt. Ref Library] I looked at some old trade >> directories and found that the 22 Winchcombe Street property mentioned as >> the shop of J Absolem was in ownership/tenure of Alfred Trusted between >> 1859-77 and he was a grocer/tea dealer. There is a gap in the directories >> held and J Absolems first mention is in 1880, and was there for 10 years >> his last listing appearing in 1890. Jacksons took over, and in another >> book there is a photo of the shop, named as Jacksons, on the corner with >> Albion Street, in a state of disrepair. I could do a copy if wanted. >> I didn't find any more Absolems listed. >> HTHs >> Lynne >> >>>> Eliza and Sarah are sisters of John ABSALOM who had the grocers shop in >>>> Cheltenham. >>>> >>>> When John went to Australia in March 1891, also on board was John >>>> ABSALOM >>>> aged 22. When this yough fellow married in South Australia in 1895, he >>>> gave >>>> his age as 24, and his name as John Allen ABSALOM. He said his >>>> father's >>>> name was was Austin ABSALOM. My team of researchers have never found >>>> either in any English records. So who was his father and who was his >>>> mother? I have spent hours trying find out. I am now pursuing any >>>> evidence that Eliza, Sarah or John were in Gloucestershire 1868-71. I >>>> have >>>> a possible mother and a possible father. But I need more evidence! >>>> >>>> Rhoda >>>> >>>> >> > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Patsy, I currently have this film ordered in to my FHS - Cirencester 1548-1812 and am searching through for my Smalls - I can have a look through and see what other Wheelers I see and any extra info it has (if any ) about the marriage that was sent. During this time I noticed a high number of marriages in Cirencester where both parties are from other parishes and it does give the information of where the parties are from - no other info re fathers etc. are in these registers. At this point births in Cirencester for the most part are listed with fathers only. I will be going to look next Thursday and will let you know if there is anything Take care Sue

Hello Lynne, An Emma had the CD and has done a look up for me - thank you so much for your kind offer, I do appreciate it, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne & Nigel" <nj_lm@tiscali.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] Monumental Inscription Hemming > If no one comes up with this from the CD before Thursday I will look in > the book at work [chelt ref. library]. > Lynne > > Gillian wrote: >> I wonder if anyone could do a look up for me please? The Friends of >> Jenner Gardens website says there is a recorded inscription on the GFHS >> CD of Monumental Inscriptions for: >> >> James & Mariane HEMMING , headstone numbered 101. I would really >> appriciate this transcript, >> >> Gillian Kelly >> Queanbeyan Australia >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Emma, you are a gem! Thank you so much, it really does help! Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk & Emma" <ty.copyn@virgin.net> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: [GLS] Flemming inscription > The inscription reads (from Cheltenham Chapel) > > In memory of Marianne/ wife of / James Flemming Esq/ of Ealing Middlesex / > who died March 27th / 1850 / aged 70 years. > > Hope this helps > > Emma > Monmouth > > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The inscription reads (from Cheltenham Chapel) In memory of Marianne/ wife of / James Flemming Esq/ of Ealing Middlesex / who died March 27th / 1850 / aged 70 years. Hope this helps Emma Monmouth

Hello everyone, Has anyone any ideas as to how I can gain more information on the ancestor above who was baptised at Ebrington in 1775. I have found a marriage at Shipston on Stour in 1809 of a Emanuel Jarvis to a Ann Rymill with one witness being a Sarah Jarvis. The Emanuel from Ebrington had a niece Sarah baptised at Ebrington in 1784. I never include information in my tree until it has been positively confirmed. Can anyone suggest how I can follow this up. Searces for children of Emanuel and Ann in areas around Ebrington and Shipston have shown nothing. Any ideas? Regards. Colin Jarvis.

Hello lynne, I would really appreciate this, thank you - I neglected to say that the burial is in Cheltenham. I will let you know if anyone with the disk responds before Thursday, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne & Nigel" <nj_lm@tiscali.co.uk> To: <gloucester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] Monumental Inscription Hemming > If no one comes up with this from the CD before Thursday I will look in > the book at work [chelt ref. library]. > Lynne > > Gillian wrote: >> I wonder if anyone could do a look up for me please? The Friends of >> Jenner Gardens website says there is a recorded inscription on the GFHS >> CD of Monumental Inscriptions for: >> >> James & Mariane HEMMING , headstone numbered 101. I would really >> appriciate this transcript, >> >> Gillian Kelly >> Queanbeyan Australia >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Browse the list archives at: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ >> >> Keyword search - any or all lists: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > _____________________________________________ > > Browse the list archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ > > Keyword search - any or all lists: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLOUCESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers Does anyone have copies of early registers (or indexes) for above please? Looking for the WHEELER family namely Richard WHEELER marr Mary ? sometime 1750-1770 and baptism of Richard whose father was Richard. Richard's junior was a freeman of city and his occupation was Carpenter and Richard the elder was a Cordwainer. many thanks Patsy

I wonder if anyone could do a look up for me please? The Friends of Jenner Gardens website says there is a recorded inscription on the GFHS CD of Monumental Inscriptions for: James & Mariane HEMMING , headstone numbered 101. I would really appriciate this transcript, Gillian Kelly Queanbeyan Australia