Hi Sandra and Janet,. Our MONKs in Minchinhampton were blacksmiths for generations but their children either emigrated to New Zealand or went to Birmingham. One daughter and granddaughter worked as curtain pin or pearl button makers in the Ladywood area. Another was a Hair Plaiter (for wigs?) The daughter's husband who was born in Hereford was by 1871 a Metal Roller. His son was employed as a Bronzer and Polisher, another a Fork Polisher presumably in the cutlery trade.. I guess it was happening everywhere with changed farming methods; people forced off the land to find work in the towns and cities. I couldn't see a direct link to Birmingham but perhaps jobs were advertised. Does anyone know? Best Wishes, Jane > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GLS] Seeking all Gloucestershire Smiths > To: [email protected] > > Hello Janet,> > My STAIT family moved from Gloucestershire to Manchester in the late > 1800's > and as far as I can tell, it was purely for work. Perhaps it was the > same > for your family. > > Sandra > > > Some interesting points arise from what has been discovered. The > Gloucestershire HESKINS family has no connection with Manchester, so I > wonder why they > moved there. >

Sorry to bother you again Janet. But could you tell me please how to find the siblings of Robert Belcher 1803. And could the Belchers buried at Duntisbourne be children of his maybe. thanks for your help. Karen (NZ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Belcher Randall/Randell > Hello Karen, > > There is a marriage on the Gloucestershire Marriage Index at Cowley on 24 > July 1831, by Banns, of a Charles RANDALL and a Mary PAUNTON - any good? > Looking at the 1841 census record for your Charles and Mary, they appear > to > be living in Cowley so the above marriage would seem to be a strong > probability. > > There is an extracted baptism on the IGI of a Robert BELCHER on 4 October > 1803 at Duntisbourne Abbots, father Robert mother Ann, which would appear > to > fit it quite well with his census records, and there are also baptismal > records for 8 siblings ranging from 1789 to 1808. There are 6 BELCHER > burials at Duntisbourne (1813-1851) on the Gloucestershire Burial Index: > > 1 November 1828 Charles BELCHER, aged 32 > 4 January 1832 Chas BELCHER, aged 5weeks > 22 July 1833 Robt BELCHER, aged 77 > 8 August 1838 George BELCHER, aged 12 > 22 June 1844 Stephen BLECHER, aged 2 days > 7 April 1848 Charles BELCHER, aged 14 > > Trying to find a baptism for Robert BELCHER snr to fit in with the above > burial, there is an extracted baptism at Dursley on 1 March 1759 father > John > mother Jane which may be relevant. > > Looking at Biglands Memorial Inscriptions of Cowley, there are some > earlier > RANDALL inscriptions: > > William RANDELL of Cowley Farm, senior, died Nov 19 1690, aged 75 > (this > inscription is in the church) > William RANDLE was buried Dec 26 1727, aged 75. Mary his second wife > was buried July 31 1728, aged 65 (inscriptions on tomb in churchyard) > Edward RANDLE died 15 Jan 1749, aged 66 > Thomas son William RANDLE died 21 April 1724, aged 37 (these last 2 > inscriptions are on flat and headstones in churchyard) > > HTH > > Janet > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Janet, My STAIT family moved from Gloucestershire to Manchester in the late 1800's and as far as I can tell, it was purely for work. Perhaps it was the same for your family. Sandra Some interesting points arise from what has been discovered. The Gloucestershire HESKINS family has no connection with Manchester, so I wonder why they moved there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for this information. I will have great joy in fitting this into my family. Cheers Karen New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Booth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Belcher Randall/Randell > Hello Karen, > > There is a marriage on the Gloucestershire Marriage Index at Cowley on 24 > July 1831, by Banns, of a Charles RANDALL and a Mary PAUNTON - any good? > Looking at the 1841 census record for your Charles and Mary, they appear > to > be living in Cowley so the above marriage would seem to be a strong > probability. > > There is an extracted baptism on the IGI of a Robert BELCHER on 4 October > 1803 at Duntisbourne Abbots, father Robert mother Ann, which would appear > to > fit it quite well with his census records, and there are also baptismal > records for 8 siblings ranging from 1789 to 1808. There are 6 BELCHER > burials at Duntisbourne (1813-1851) on the Gloucestershire Burial Index: > > 1 November 1828 Charles BELCHER, aged 32 > 4 January 1832 Chas BELCHER, aged 5weeks > 22 July 1833 Robt BELCHER, aged 77 > 8 August 1838 George BELCHER, aged 12 > 22 June 1844 Stephen BLECHER, aged 2 days > 7 April 1848 Charles BELCHER, aged 14 > > Trying to find a baptism for Robert BELCHER snr to fit in with the above > burial, there is an extracted baptism at Dursley on 1 March 1759 father > John > mother Jane which may be relevant. > > Looking at Biglands Memorial Inscriptions of Cowley, there are some > earlier > RANDALL inscriptions: > > William RANDELL of Cowley Farm, senior, died Nov 19 1690, aged 75 > (this > inscription is in the church) > William RANDLE was buried Dec 26 1727, aged 75. Mary his second wife > was buried July 31 1728, aged 65 (inscriptions on tomb in churchyard) > Edward RANDLE died 15 Jan 1749, aged 66 > Thomas son William RANDLE died 21 April 1724, aged 37 (these last 2 > inscriptions are on flat and headstones in churchyard) > > HTH > > Janet > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I am searching for living Bowles, Boulds Bolles in the Glous and Oxfordshire areas to communicate with on genealogy. Am also looking for a living male descendent to test for the Bowles family DNA project at FamilyTree DNA. My family has allready sampled and would like another to add to this line of Bowles  on the database. Our DNA tests revealed our line of Bould/Bowles to be from a small group (1Ia) known as the Norse Viking and I have traced our line to the areas around Oddington since approx 1580, ( likely earlier.)  I will fund the sample for a qualified participant. Best Regards Randi Bowles-Meentzen

Hello again Karen, Go into the IGI Family Search site, enter in Robert BELCHER's details and search. When his info comes up,click on his name and when his info page comes up click on the Batch No C027981 on the left hand side. This brings up another search page purely for this batch no recorded by the IGI. Enter BELCHER into the Last Name field and his father's name (in this case Robert) and his mother's name (Ann) and click on search. This will bring up all the BELCHER children baptised with father's name Robert and mother's name Ann. If you want to find any BELCHERs baptised at Duntisbourne, just put in the surname BELCHER and search on that. Another way of looking for specific surname extracted baptisms at a specific parish is to search on Hugh Wallis's IGI site (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle) but not all the extracted baptisms on the IGI site have been transferred to Hugh Wallis's site so you really need to search both. From the baptisms of Robert & Ann's children, you should be able to correlate some of the burials I gave you. HTH further Janet > Sorry to bother you again Janet. But could you tell me please how to find > the siblings of Robert Belcher 1803. And could the Belchers buried at > Duntisbourne be children of his maybe. thanks for your help. > Karen (NZ)

Hi again, Some more on the SMITHS. Mary Louisa SMITH married John Lord WHITHAM in Sep Qtr 1868. I found her in 1871, 1881 and 1891. Cheers Dallas Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Marriages Sep 1868 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Colebourn Walter Manchester 8d 570 Colebourne Walter Manchester 8d 570 Horsefield Martha Manchester 8d 570 Smith Mary Louisa Manchester 8d 570 Whitham John Lord Manchester 8d 570 1871 England Census Name: Mary S Whitham Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John L Gender: Female Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: Stowell Memorial Town: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 42 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age John L Whitham 27 Louisa G Whitham 1 Mary S Whitham 27 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4026; Folio: 70; Page: 7; GSU roll: 846325. Census 1881 England Census Name: Mary L. Whittam Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John L. Gender: Female Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Street address: 20 Tatton Street Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John L. Whittam 37 John L. Whittam 8 Mary L. Whittam 36 William J. Whittam 5 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3971; Folio: 58; Page: 30; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341948. 1891 England Census Name: Mary Witham Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jemima Connelly 61 John Connelly 62 Mary Witham 49 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3220; Folio 108; Page 30; GSU roll: 6098330. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 06:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GLS] Seeking all Gloucestershire Smiths With regard to 'Gloucestershire SMITHs' I would very much like to know what became of the family of Solomon SMITH. He was the schoolmaster of Horsley School at a time towards the middle of the nineteenth century. I believe that he was born nearby, Kings Stanley or Stonehouse. He married Elizabeth HESKINS, who became his assistant at the school. Solomon was one of the census takers in Horsley for the 1851 census [I think]. His children included Seymour SMITH, an unusual name. I cannot find any mention of Solomon or Seymour SMITH beyond 1851 so wonder if the family emigrated. Elizabeth HESKINS had an illegitimate daughter, Jane, who was brought up by her grandparents to believe that they were her actual parents. [The father was George HUMPHRIES] Jane married in London and I have not tried as yet to follow her line. Any sightings of Solomon et.al would be most helpful. Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet I found your SMITH family in 1861 living in Manchester Lancashire. Solomon is a Victualler and Seymour is a Butcher. In 1871, Seymour was living in Salford Lancashire with a family called BOOTH. Emily BOOTH is described as Sister and the children as his nieces and nephews. Seymour's occupation is still Butcher. In 1881, Seymour is now married to Emma and they have two children. His niece Emily A. BOOTH is still living with him. He is still a butcher. In 1891 Seymour is now widowed and is living with his two children, Arthur B. and Lavinia E. SMITH. His niece Emily A. BOOTH is still living with the family. Occupation is now Cattle Dealer. Still living in Salford. In 1901 Seymour is now married to Sarah. Occupation is Retired Butcher. Now living in Blackpool. I also found John H. with wife Ellen and son William H living in Salford in 1871. Let me know if you would like further details on John and family. I will send images off list. Cheers Dallas 1861 England Census Name: Seymour Smith Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's Name: Solomon Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Deansgate ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Jane Moult 23 Elizabeth Smith 44 Mary Smith 19 Seymour Smith 20 Solomon Smith 43 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2938; Folio: 5; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543053. 1871 England Census Name: Seymour B Smith Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Booth 13 David Booth 7 Elizabeth J Booth 9 Emily Booth 34 Emily Booth 2 Seymour B Smith 37 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4018; Folio: 163; Page: 1; GSU roll: 846318. Census 1881 England Census Name: Seymour B. Smith Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Hordey ?, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Street address: 309 Chapel St Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Butcher Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emily A. Booth 12 Arthur Smith 5 Emma Smith 48 Lilly Smith 6 Seymour B. Smith 48 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3964; Folio: 146; Page: 32; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341946. 1891 England Census Name: Seymour B Smith Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emily A Booth 22 Arthur B Smith 15 Lavinia E Smith 16 Seymour B Smith 57 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3219; Folio 59; Page 5; GSU roll: 6098329. 1901 England Census Name: Seymore B Smith Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah J Gender: Male Where born: Leicestershire, Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Blackpool Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist Town: Blackpool County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Fylde Sub registration district: Blackpool ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Sarah J Smith 52 Seymore B Smith 68 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3973; Folio: 70; Page: 5. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 06:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GLS] Seeking all Gloucestershire Smiths With regard to 'Gloucestershire SMITHs' I would very much like to know what became of the family of Solomon SMITH. He was the schoolmaster of Horsley School at a time towards the middle of the nineteenth century. I believe that he was born nearby, Kings Stanley or Stonehouse. He married Elizabeth HESKINS, who became his assistant at the school. Solomon was one of the census takers in Horsley for the 1851 census [I think]. His children included Seymour SMITH, an unusual name. I cannot find any mention of Solomon or Seymour SMITH beyond 1851 so wonder if the family emigrated. Elizabeth HESKINS had an illegitimate daughter, Jane, who was brought up by her grandparents to believe that they were her actual parents. [The father was George HUMPHRIES] Jane married in London and I have not tried as yet to follow her line. Any sightings of Solomon et.al would be most helpful. Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. 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Hi Dallas, Thank you so much for your work on my behalf. Dawn Cumbley [Gloucester Forum] has also responded and has sent census images. Some interesting points arise from what has been discovered. The Gloucestershire HESKINS family has no connection with Manchester, so I wonder why they moved there. I hadn't remembered Solomon SMITH's birth place correctly and now think [again without checking] that it was Dursley but maybe his parents came from Lancashire. Several other members of the HESKINS family were butchers and a few were victuallers. I will have to look it up but Seymour was not apprenticed to a butcher but something quite different. I wonder who John and Ellen H. were. The HESKIN family hails from Lancashire and has, as far as I can determine, no connection with those who had lived in the North Nibley area of Gloucestershire since the late fifteenth century and probably before. Lots to think about and to explore further thanks to you and Dawn. I have a findmypast subscription that has been lying dormant so I will try to locate other family members by this means. Thanks again, Janet Heskins In a message dated 29/10/2008 22:06:41 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Janet I found your SMITH family in 1861 living in Manchester Lancashire. Solomon is a Victualler and Seymour is a Butcher. In 1871, Seymour was living in Salford Lancashire with a family called BOOTH. Emily BOOTH is described as Sister and the children as his nieces and nephews. Seymour's occupation is still Butcher. In 1881, Seymour is now married to Emma and they have two children. His niece Emily A. BOOTH is still living with him. He is still a butcher. In 1891 Seymour is now widowed and is living with his two children, Arthur B. and Lavinia E. SMITH. His niece Emily A. BOOTH is still living with the family. Occupation is now Cattle Dealer. Still living in Salford. In 1901 Seymour is now married to Sarah. Occupation is Retired Butcher. Now living in Blackpool. I also found John H. with wife Ellen and son William H living in Salford in 1871. Let me know if you would like further details on John and family. I will send images off list. Cheers Dallas 1861 England Census Name: Seymour Smith Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's Name: Solomon Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Deansgate ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Jane Moult 23 Elizabeth Smith 44 Mary Smith 19 Seymour Smith 20 Solomon Smith 43 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2938; Folio: 5; Page: 4; GSU roll: 543053. 1871 England Census Name: Seymour B Smith Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Booth 13 David Booth 7 Elizabeth J Booth 9 Emily Booth 34 Emily Booth 2 Seymour B Smith 37 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4018; Folio: 163; Page: 1; GSU roll: 846318. Census 1881 England Census Name: Seymour B. Smith Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Hordey ?, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Street address: 309 Chapel St Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Butcher Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emily A. Booth 12 Arthur Smith 5 Emma Smith 48 Lilly Smith 6 Seymour B. Smith 48 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3964; Folio: 146; Page: 32; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341946. 1891 England Census Name: Seymour B Smith Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emily A Booth 22 Arthur B Smith 15 Lavinia E Smith 16 Seymour B Smith 57 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3219; Folio 59; Page 5; GSU roll: 6098329. 1901 England Census Name: Seymore B Smith Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah J Gender: Male Where born: Leicestershire, Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Blackpool Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist Town: Blackpool County/Island: Lancashire Registration district: Fylde Sub registration district: Blackpool ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Sarah J Smith 52 Seymore B Smith 68 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3973; Folio: 70; Page: 5. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 06:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GLS] Seeking all Gloucestershire Smiths With regard to 'Gloucestershire SMITHs' I would very much like to know what became of the family of Solomon SMITH. He was the schoolmaster of Horsley School at a time towards the middle of the nineteenth century. I believe that he was born nearby, Kings Stanley or Stonehouse. He married Elizabeth HESKINS, who became his assistant at the school. Solomon was one of the census takers in Horsley for the 1851 census [I think]. His children included Seymour SMITH, an unusual name. I cannot find any mention of Solomon or Seymour SMITH beyond 1851 so wonder if the family emigrated. Elizabeth HESKINS had an illegitimate daughter, Jane, who was brought up by her grandparents to believe that they were her actual parents. [The father was George HUMPHRIES] Jane married in London and I have not tried as yet to follow her line. Any sightings of Solomon et.al would be most helpful. Cheers, Janet Heskins _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. 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Hi Janet Some images 1861,71 81 and 91 sent off list. Regards Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [GLS] Seeking all Gloucestershire Smiths > With regard to 'Gloucestershire SMITHs' I would very much like to know > what > became of the family of Solomon SMITH. > > He was the schoolmaster of Horsley School at a time towards the middle of > the nineteenth century. I believe that he was born nearby, Kings Stanley > or > Stonehouse. He married Elizabeth HESKINS, who became his assistant at the > school. > > Solomon was one of the census takers in Horsley for the 1851 census [I > think]. His children included Seymour SMITH, an unusual name. I cannot > find any > mention of Solomon or Seymour SMITH beyond 1851 so wonder if the family > emigrated. > > Elizabeth HESKINS had an illegitimate daughter, Jane, who was brought up > by > her grandparents to believe that they were her actual parents. [The father > was > George HUMPHRIES] Jane married in London and I have not tried as yet to > follow her line. > > Any sightings of Solomon et.al would be most helpful. > > Cheers, > > Janet Heskins > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 - Release Date: 29/10/2008 17:27

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Hello Karen, There is a marriage on the Gloucestershire Marriage Index at Cowley on 24 July 1831, by Banns, of a Charles RANDALL and a Mary PAUNTON - any good? Looking at the 1841 census record for your Charles and Mary, they appear to be living in Cowley so the above marriage would seem to be a strong probability. There is an extracted baptism on the IGI of a Robert BELCHER on 4 October 1803 at Duntisbourne Abbots, father Robert mother Ann, which would appear to fit it quite well with his census records, and there are also baptismal records for 8 siblings ranging from 1789 to 1808. There are 6 BELCHER burials at Duntisbourne (1813-1851) on the Gloucestershire Burial Index: 1 November 1828 Charles BELCHER, aged 32 4 January 1832 Chas BELCHER, aged 5weeks 22 July 1833 Robt BELCHER, aged 77 8 August 1838 George BELCHER, aged 12 22 June 1844 Stephen BLECHER, aged 2 days 7 April 1848 Charles BELCHER, aged 14 Trying to find a baptism for Robert BELCHER snr to fit in with the above burial, there is an extracted baptism at Dursley on 1 March 1759 father John mother Jane which may be relevant. Looking at Biglands Memorial Inscriptions of Cowley, there are some earlier RANDALL inscriptions: William RANDELL of Cowley Farm, senior, died Nov 19 1690, aged 75 (this inscription is in the church) William RANDLE was buried Dec 26 1727, aged 75. Mary his second wife was buried July 31 1728, aged 65 (inscriptions on tomb in churchyard) Edward RANDLE died 15 Jan 1749, aged 66 Thomas son William RANDLE died 21 April 1724, aged 37 (these last 2 inscriptions are on flat and headstones in churchyard) HTH Janet

Hi There New to list. I am researching RANDALL/RANDELL the name changed through the years and some still have it the original way. John RANDELL/RANDALL B 23/08/1832 parents Charles B 1800 married Mary Unknown. Looking for Charles Randell/Randall's parents siblings etc and ofcourse what Mary's surname was. I have been given a side line to my John of the Randell/Randall but needing more on my side. John Randall/Randell married Annie Maria Belcher her father was Robert BELCHER b 1803 I am searching for his parents names any siblings etc. Robert Belcher married Maria PARTRIDGE B 1804 I have since found that through the years back Maria belonged to the Partridges of Wishanger Manor Miserden. So anything on the Partridges gratefully received. Thanks Karen New Zealand

Hello Karen No direct help I'm afraid but I did some work a long time ago on some Randalls and eventually realised that a variant of the name is Arundel. You may want to search the As as well as the Rs. Kind regards. Peter

With regard to 'Gloucestershire SMITHs' I would very much like to know what became of the family of Solomon SMITH. He was the schoolmaster of Horsley School at a time towards the middle of the nineteenth century. I believe that he was born nearby, Kings Stanley or Stonehouse. He married Elizabeth HESKINS, who became his assistant at the school. Solomon was one of the census takers in Horsley for the 1851 census [I think]. His children included Seymour SMITH, an unusual name. I cannot find any mention of Solomon or Seymour SMITH beyond 1851 so wonder if the family emigrated. Elizabeth HESKINS had an illegitimate daughter, Jane, who was brought up by her grandparents to believe that they were her actual parents. [The father was George HUMPHRIES] Jane married in London and I have not tried as yet to follow her line. Any sightings of Solomon et.al would be most helpful. Cheers, Janet Heskins

Esther I really don't have the Smith's forward. My line actually is a John Morland Tovey md to Eliza Lucas and then Emily Lucas daughters of Robert Lucas and Mary Day. Mary Day was the daughter of John Day and Sarah Smith is the daughter of James Smith and Mary Workman. James Smith and Mary Workman had ten children: Elizabeth, Mary, Mary, Sarah, Martha Gaughy, Susannah, John, Rebecca, Daniel, Hester. I have information on Elizabeth and Sarah but nothing on the Smith Line that would carry it on...Daniel, John... Regards Carolyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: Esther Ann<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [GLS] Seeking all Gloucestershire Smiths Hi Carolyn, I have not gotten back that far unfortunately, do you have them more recently in the latteral part of the 1800's, lets say, 1880+ especially 1905-1912ish? Esther Carolyn Ostler wrote: > Hi > I am also related to this Smith family. James Smith and Mary Workman. > My line is through Sarah Smith who married John Day. She is a sister to Elizabeth Smith who married Richard Monk. Would be happy to correspond. > > I also have other Smith lines...Elizabeth Smith who married Daniel Yewen in Uley 1743... > > I have information back on both lines. > > Regards > Carolyn > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk<http://www.freebmd.org.uk/> , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk<http://www.freebmd.org.uk/> , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan, I had a look at the censuses for a George HUNT born abt 1839 with parents Thomas and Charlotte and came up with one possible in 1841 and 1851. Transcriptions copied below. If you think this is your family and would like the census images just let me know. Cheers Dallas 1841 England Census Name: Thomas Hunt Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Gender: Male Where born: Somerset, England Civil Parish: St George Hundred: Portbury County/Island: Somerset Registration district: Bedminster Sub registration district: St George Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hunt 33 Charlotte Hunt 30 Thomas Hunt 10 Isaac Hunt 8 George Hunt 4 Rachel Hunt 2 N K Hunt 3 days 1851 England Census Name: George Hunt Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: St George, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Easton in Gordano County/Island: Somerset Registration district: Bedminster Sub registration district: Long Ashton ED, institution, or vessel: 6b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 68 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Hunt 40 Elizabeth Hunt 6 Mo George Hunt 15 Isaac Hunt 18 Mary Hunt 3 Rachaal Hunt 13 Sarah Hunt 11 Thomas Hunt 45 Thomas Hunt 20 William Hunt 7 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1946; Folio: 622; Page: 18; GSU roll: 221106. -----Original Message----- From: Joan Hedberg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2008 02:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GLS] APPLETON & HUNT in Newington Bagpath area Hoping someone can help me with one of my brickwalls that I have been trying to solve for years. I have my great grandfather George Hunt who married in Kingston, Ontario in 1868 Margaret Lester. His parents are suppose to be Thomas Hunt & Charlotte Appleton as per their marriage registration, he was in the Royal Artillery from England, saying he was born in Newington, England. He was born 22 Oct 1839 recorded in a bible. Now I can prove none of it!!! I have tried everything to try and get some proof on his parentage or his birth. I have tried many Newingtons in England looking at films either ordered in or at LDS in Salt Lake City, USA, no baptism, no birth certificate can I find. Plymouth is where his battalion was stationed before going to Ionian Islands and Malta before coming to Canada. Have tried familysearch.com, searched many Newington areas, contacted Appleton researchers still no luck. Now a new discovery for me in looking in my "The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers" County by County I find a "Newington Bagpath" in Gloucester so I am hoping this might be the Newington area he is from as my Murphy-Stutfield connection is in Bristol I have just discovered. Can anyone offer any suggestions or help? Thank you, Joan Hedberg from Canada _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the Gloucestershire Burials Index of Tidenham (1813-1837): 21 December 1828 at Tidenham James HIGHATT, aged 34, of Mathern 9 May 1830 at Tidenham William HIGHATT, aged 10, of Tidenham It looks as though the above burial could be your James, as on the Gloucestershire Marriage Index there is the following marriage: 29 April 1833 at Tidenham Benjamin SMITH married Mary HIGHATT, widow, by Banns This might explain why I have been unable to find a Mary HIGHATT (or variations) in the 1841 census record onwards. HTH Janet

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Hi Carolyn, I have not gotten back that far unfortunately, do you have them more recently in the latteral part of the 1800's, lets say, 1880+ especially 1905-1912ish? Esther Carolyn Ostler wrote: > Hi > I am also related to this Smith family. James Smith and Mary Workman. > My line is through Sarah Smith who married John Day. She is a sister to Elizabeth Smith who married Richard Monk. Would be happy to correspond. > > I also have other Smith lines...Elizabeth Smith who married Daniel Yewen in Uley 1743... > > I have information back on both lines. > > Regards > Carolyn > [email protected] > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >