Skinner st is still there but its only small Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: [GLS] SKINNER ST, JACK MARNS/MARNES/MAHON > Hello Gloucester Listers, > > I am trying to help my brother in law with some information about some > streets and some people who may have lived in this street c1750's +/- > 20years. > > We have no connection whatsoever with Gloucester, we've never even visited > it, but may do soon, however after being regressed, my brother in law > spoke > > in a Gloucester accent and came out with the name of this street SKINNER > ST, > > St Oswald's Church, or the Cathedral and a name of Jack MARNS or something > near to that. He'd never heard of Skinner St or any church around it so > it > was amazing to hear so much was in fact correct. Hence we are now trying > to > > find out if the man existed or the other names too. > > > I've located the street and read up about the church and the cathedral and > see that they are relatively near to Skinner St. > > Jack (John) MARNS could be son of George or Joseph MARNS who was a son of > John MARNS. > Jack MARNS supposedly had a wife called Mary and possibly a son called > John. He was about 42 when he died c1756 and lived in Skinner St. > 'Jack' > says when he was asked where was he buried and he said that they wanted to > bury him at the Cathedral but he is buried elsewhere. 'Jack' also said > that > > a widow called Mary Baker, was 'very friendly' with the minister in the > church, a bit of a merry widow it seems! > > Before Skinner St was so named does anyone know by what this area of > Gloucester was known as. > > > Has anyone any access to burial records for c1756 to look for a Jack > (John) > MARNS/Marnes/Mahon or something similar with a wife Mary and son John or > anyone with a similar name > please. > > Some of you may not believe in any of this, but I can assure you that as > we > live in Merseyside, miles away from Gloucestershire, for my brother in > law > to be regressed and mention streets and places and churches which do > actually exist but he's never had any knowledge or association with, is > very > > fascinating indeed and will be featured on a TV program sometime in the > near > > future. > > Thank you to anyone who can help me trace or find any more information > > Wendy > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM

Hi Wendy well for starters its near the Gloucester Rugby football ground on Kingsholm Rd s and not a few minutes away from town centre Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Bennett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: [GLS] SKINNER ST, JACK MARNS/MARNES/MAHON > Hello Gloucester Listers, > > I am trying to help my brother in law with some information about some > streets and some people who may have lived in this street c1750's +/- > 20years. > > We have no connection whatsoever with Gloucester, we've never even visited > it, but may do soon, however after being regressed, my brother in law > spoke > > in a Gloucester accent and came out with the name of this street SKINNER > ST, > > St Oswald's Church, or the Cathedral and a name of Jack MARNS or something > near to that. He'd never heard of Skinner St or any church around it so > it > was amazing to hear so much was in fact correct. Hence we are now trying > to > > find out if the man existed or the other names too. > > > I've located the street and read up about the church and the cathedral and > see that they are relatively near to Skinner St. > > Jack (John) MARNS could be son of George or Joseph MARNS who was a son of > John MARNS. > Jack MARNS supposedly had a wife called Mary and possibly a son called > John. He was about 42 when he died c1756 and lived in Skinner St. > 'Jack' > says when he was asked where was he buried and he said that they wanted to > bury him at the Cathedral but he is buried elsewhere. 'Jack' also said > that > > a widow called Mary Baker, was 'very friendly' with the minister in the > church, a bit of a merry widow it seems! > > Before Skinner St was so named does anyone know by what this area of > Gloucester was known as. > > > Has anyone any access to burial records for c1756 to look for a Jack > (John) > MARNS/Marnes/Mahon or something similar with a wife Mary and son John or > anyone with a similar name > please. > > Some of you may not believe in any of this, but I can assure you that as > we > live in Merseyside, miles away from Gloucestershire, for my brother in > law > to be regressed and mention streets and places and churches which do > actually exist but he's never had any knowledge or association with, is > very > > fascinating indeed and will be featured on a TV program sometime in the > near > > future. > > Thank you to anyone who can help me trace or find any more information > > Wendy > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM

Hello Gloucester Listers, I am trying to help my brother in law with some information about some streets and some people who may have lived in this street c1750's +/- 20years. We have no connection whatsoever with Gloucester, we've never even visited it, but may do soon, however after being regressed, my brother in law spoke in a Gloucester accent and came out with the name of this street SKINNER ST, St Oswald's Church, or the Cathedral and a name of Jack MARNS or something near to that. He'd never heard of Skinner St or any church around it so it was amazing to hear so much was in fact correct. Hence we are now trying to find out if the man existed or the other names too. I've located the street and read up about the church and the cathedral and see that they are relatively near to Skinner St. Jack (John) MARNS could be son of George or Joseph MARNS who was a son of John MARNS. Jack MARNS supposedly had a wife called Mary and possibly a son called John. He was about 42 when he died c1756 and lived in Skinner St. 'Jack' says when he was asked where was he buried and he said that they wanted to bury him at the Cathedral but he is buried elsewhere. 'Jack' also said that a widow called Mary Baker, was 'very friendly' with the minister in the church, a bit of a merry widow it seems! Before Skinner St was so named does anyone know by what this area of Gloucester was known as. Has anyone any access to burial records for c1756 to look for a Jack (John) MARNS/Marnes/Mahon or something similar with a wife Mary and son John or anyone with a similar name please. Some of you may not believe in any of this, but I can assure you that as we live in Merseyside, miles away from Gloucestershire, for my brother in law to be regressed and mention streets and places and churches which do actually exist but he's never had any knowledge or association with, is very fascinating indeed and will be featured on a TV program sometime in the near future. Thank you to anyone who can help me trace or find any more information Wendy

No idea why my mail took so long to arrive. I have searched game lists for the Bristol papers, & found several comprehensive lists for Somerset, but sadly none for Gloucestershire. I wonder whether the Gloucester records office may have them .. H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" < >I found (oh, and this just came in at noon EST on the 21th) I was > doing a search for Ponting at the Gale free access new papers and a > Ponting was a game keeper. I think if you search Game lists you would > do well. I found a 1837 and a Hampshire one. I was limiting the papers > by "Bristol". The biggest lists were Glos. in general but they may > have been paid and applied for by a different geographical area, > parishes maybe. > Search the DB by limiting year and using Game Lists and have at it <G> > > Eliz > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Hilary <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Ooh, now thats interesting. A little early for my G Grandfather & GG >> Grandfather who were both gamekeepers in the Berkeley area. What >> expression >> did you search for to find this, and did the lists cover a particular >> area >> or Gloucestershire in general? >> >> Hilary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eliz Hanebury" <>> >> >>> The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England), Saturday, September 13, 1834; >>> Issue 2325. >>> >>> Some one was asking about game lists, since Gale has the trial access, >>> I found this one at the least. There are 2 lists one 'general' and >>> another with Game Keepers not being A??????? servants both being >>> 3/13/6 >>>

Hi All I am new to the list and am currently researching the Clissold families of Gloucestershire and the Slade families of Gloucestershire. I would like to correspond with everyone who has Clissold connections or Slade connections. As a starter, I am particularly interested in the descendents of the following family: STEPHEN & MARY CLISSOLD+ Stephen Clissold was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire in 1645. He died on 22 October 1712. He had a will with a relevant date [not clear if it is date of death or date of will or date proved] of 22 October 1712 (source IGI rel ent). Mary Hannis was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire in 1649 Stephen Clissold married Mary Hannis at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 5 August 1671 (source IGI rel ent; James Henderson). The children of Stephen and Mary Clissold appear to be: • Samuel who was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 30 May 1672 and married [who?] • Stephen who was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 16 April 1674 (source James Henderson), and married [who?] • John who was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 29 August 1676 and q died young [q in 1676] • Daniel who was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 20 August 1680 and married Jane Sherstone • Mary who was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 3 May 1692 (and married [who?] • John who was born at Stroud, Gloucestershire on 20 August 1699 (and married [who?] Descendents include Avis Taylor, Mavis Hollis, David Williams, Anita Merchant and James Henderson (thru Daniel). Any information will be gratefully received. Best Regards David Williams email: [email protected] tel: (61) 2 9958 3332 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.3/1786 - Release Date: 13/11/2008 6:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1803 - Release Date: 21/11/2008 9:37 AM

Charles Salsbury went Bankrupt between 20 March - 17April 1835 in Northumberland (according to The Legal Observer, Or, Journal of Jurisprudence - Page 520), would there have been a court case & if so would anyone know where I might find the records for this case. As this doesn't pertain to this list could you send your replys off list please. Thanks. Gary in Sunny Central Queensland. Genealogy Home Page - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~liddellfamily/ Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=other&p2=au&p3=tagline

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I found (oh, and this just came in at noon EST on the 21th) I was doing a search for Ponting at the Gale free access new papers and a Ponting was a game keeper. I think if you search Game lists you would do well. I found a 1837 and a Hampshire one. I was limiting the papers by "Bristol". The biggest lists were Glos. in general but they may have been paid and applied for by a different geographical area, parishes maybe. Search the DB by limiting year and using Game Lists and have at it <G> Eliz On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Hilary <[email protected]> wrote: > Ooh, now thats interesting. A little early for my G Grandfather & GG > Grandfather who were both gamekeepers in the Berkeley area. What expression > did you search for to find this, and did the lists cover a particular area > or Gloucestershire in general? > > Hilary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:54 PM > Subject: [GLS] Game Lists 1834 > > >> The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England), Saturday, September 13, 1834; >> Issue 2325. >> >> Some one was asking about game lists, since Gale has the trial access, >> I found this one at the least. There are 2 lists one 'general' and >> another with Game Keepers not being A??????? servants both being >> 3/13/6 >> >> >> Eliz >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on >> www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will >> then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ooh, now thats interesting. A little early for my G Grandfather & GG Grandfather who were both gamekeepers in the Berkeley area. What expression did you search for to find this, and did the lists cover a particular area or Gloucestershire in general? Hilary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [GLS] Game Lists 1834 > The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England), Saturday, September 13, 1834; > Issue 2325. > > Some one was asking about game lists, since Gale has the trial access, > I found this one at the least. There are 2 lists one 'general' and > another with Game Keepers not being A??????? servants both being > 3/13/6 > > > Eliz > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Bristol Mercury (Bristol, England), Saturday, September 13, 1834; Issue 2325. Some one was asking about game lists, since Gale has the trial access, I found this one at the least. There are 2 lists one 'general' and another with Game Keepers not being A??????? servants both being 3/13/6 Eliz

Hi Listers It's that time again where I remind everyone about the Gloucestershire Look-up Exchange. For anyone who doesn't know what it's all about, it is an ever-growing list of volunteers who have resources in their possession and who are willing to do "look-ups". Why not take a look? Please take time to read the instructions if this is your first visit - You will find the Gloucester Lookup page at: http://aztecrose.tripod.com/gloucestershire/index.html I'm always on the look-out for more volunteers to undertake look-ups for fellow researchers in any area such as; tax lists, electoral rolls, directories, census indexes, indexed parish registers etc., etc., and if you are willing to add your name to this list, then please email me, at [email protected] your contribution will be gratefully accepted. I am also looking for anyone willing to be a Lookup Exchange Administrator for other English Counties. Please contact me. Go to http://aztecrose.tripod.com/LookupExchange.htm I would like to thank all volunteers who are listed for their continued support. Colin Pratt Administrator of the Huntingdonshire, England, Lookup Exchange: http://members.tripod.com/AztecRose/huntingdon/hun.html Administrator of the Gloucestershire, England, Lookup Exchange: http://aztecrose.tripod.com/gloucestershire/index.html Administrator of the UK Lookup Exchange County Index: http://aztecrose.tripod.com/LookupExchange.htm RootsWeb Mail List Owner - Pratts Surname RootsWeb Mail List Owner - Brace Surname RootsWeb Mail List Owner - Bustin Surname

Jenny, I presume you have looked for William Coates in the 1881 Census. If not the entry is as follows William Coates b. Gloucester 1837 Butcher Eliza wife also b. Gloucester Annie b. 1869 Cheltenham Emily b. 1871 Cheltenham William b. 1874 Cheltenham Jane b. 1877 Cheltenham John b. 1879 Cheltenham In 1901 he was still living in the High Street. He was a widower and was living with his widowed daughter Gertrude aged 23 and her two sons Francis aged 3 and frederick aged 9 mths. Gertrude's place of birth is given as Longhope, Glos. Hope this helps Margaret

many thanks for the info, very quick response.> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:05:31 +0000> Subject: Re: [GLS] 1891 census> > Hi Jenny> > RG12/2044 Folio 117 Page 8 201 High Street Cheltenham> > William Coates aged 50 married Butcher born Sandhurst> Annie Coates daughter aged 21 Dressmaker born Cheltenham> William Coates son aged 17 Trunk Maker born Cheltenham> Bessie Brotherick Servant aged 17 born Winchcombe> > Hope this helps> Jenny> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jenny buckley" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:52 PM> Subject: [GLS] 1891 census> > > >> > Hi,> >> > looking for william coates born 1837 sandhurst is living at 201 high > > street cheltenham on the 1891 census if someone has access to this census > > and do a lookup for me it is his children I am interested in> >> > many thanks> > _________________________________________________________________> > See the most popular videos on the web> > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/> > _____________________________________________> >> > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem.> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.3/1786 - Release Date: 13/11/2008 > 18:01> > > _____________________________________________> > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

Hi Jenny RG12/2044 Folio 117 Page 8 201 High Street Cheltenham William Coates aged 50 married Butcher born Sandhurst Annie Coates daughter aged 21 Dressmaker born Cheltenham William Coates son aged 17 Trunk Maker born Cheltenham Bessie Brotherick Servant aged 17 born Winchcombe Hope this helps Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "jenny buckley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:52 PM Subject: [GLS] 1891 census > > Hi, > > looking for william coates born 1837 sandhurst is living at 201 high > street cheltenham on the 1891 census if someone has access to this census > and do a lookup for me it is his children I am interested in > > many thanks > _________________________________________________________________ > See the most popular videos on the web > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.3/1786 - Release Date: 13/11/2008 18:01

Hi, looking for william coates born 1837 sandhurst is living at 201 high street cheltenham on the 1891 census if someone has access to this census and do a lookup for me it is his children I am interested in many thanks _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

Hi All, Last evening I went to a Lecture on Ag Labs. It was said that between 1840-around 1900 there was a great north/south divide in the UK. The north being the more wealthy, the pay quoted for an Ag Lab in Surrey was 8/6d whilst in Yorks and Lancashire it was quoted as 13/6d. The industry in these areas paid well and so people moved away from the land to work in the mills or coal mines. Cornwall also paid more highly because of the copper and tin mining and the china clay industry. The pay might have been better but I would have expected living conditions to have been worse with all the pollution from the industry. As a footnote he also said that the children of Ag Labs would have got very little milk, butter or cheese because the milk was sold for more money when it was sent to the cities. Gleaning was usually allowed though it could be regarded as theft and a good gleaner could collect enough grain to feed the family for a few months. Katherine

The firm H H Martyn closed down in about 1971 More information about the firm is in a book "The Best" published 1998 The author is John Whitaker ISBN number 0 9529382 1 9 Copies appear on eBay from time to time The original cost was around £30 I have an interest in this book as my father-in-law worked for the firm until it closed. Bob [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jackie Henderson Sent: 11 November 2008 00:18 To: [email protected] Subject: [GLS] MARTYN'S As a battlefield guide , I have, of course, been involved with the Remembrance events this November and the Whitehall Cenotaph as well. I have recently learned that my grandfather worked on the design, engineering and building of this in the 20s through MARTYN'S - a Cheltenham based engineering company. He was employed in the Cheltenham works first then transferred to North London for this work. I have e-mailed Martyn's in the hope of finding an archivist who might tell me more about my grandfather's work to no avail and also the PRO who have limited information. I now hope that someone on the list may know more about the Company or be able to tell me where to research next. Thank you. My grandfather was Samuel Henry Parker, who originated in Devon and then moved with his wife Lucy (formerly Condy / Cundy) to Cheltenham where my father Henry John (sometimes known as John Henry) Parker was born in 1904. Forgive me I do not reply immediately but will be working in Auschwitz un! til the 20th November. Again, thank you. Jackie Henderson formerly Parker _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Being such an important day today it reminded me of one of my brickwalls. One of my branches involves the Bentley Family from Bristol. Arthur Joy Bentley married Ada Winnifred Woodman 13 Mar 1920 Bristol. Although I have the marr cert I can find nothing which might lead me further finding the birth or parents of Arthur, I Have been unable to trace anything birth or parentage on Arthur although it seems he may have Been born Up North Manchester or possibly In Australia?? A bit of a mystery really?? >From Australian National Archives: Bentley Arthur Joy : SERN 3274 : POB Manchester England : POE Sydney NSW : NOK W Bentley Jane First World War Unit Embarkation Rolls This is a roll of those who embarked to serve overseas during the First World War. Also in more detail. First World War Unit Embarkation Rolls Bentley, Arthur Service Number: 3274 Rank/Calling: Private Unit: 33 Infantry Battalion - 7 and 8 Reinforcements (n.d.) Ship Name: HMAT Port Melbourne Ship Number: A16 Date of Embarkation: 16/07/1917 Place of Embarkation: Sydney However I came across this death entry and find it seemingly very coincidental that The "Joy" Bentley connection and first Name was Winnifred this might be a chance in a million connection I am looking for, (this is not the Ada Winnifred Bentley (Woodman) I mentioned above.) Would anyone have anything on the following person or family. Winifred Joy Bentley Birth Date: 3 Jan 1923 Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 2002 Age at death (estimated): 79 Registration district: Cheltenham Inferred County: Gloucestershire Register number: B64D District and Subdistrict: 4791B Entry Number: 95 Any help or suggestions appreciated. Pav Swindon

I have forwarded this to myself at work - cheltenham local studies library, and will look at details in a book we have about the company when I am next in, on thursday. Lynne Jackie Henderson wrote: > As a battlefield guide , I have, of course, been involved with the Remembrance events this November and the Whitehall Cenotaph as well. I have recently learned that my grandfather worked on the design, engineering and building of this in the 20s through MARTYN'S - a Cheltenham based engineering company. He was employed in the Cheltenham works first then transferred to North London for this work. I have e-mailed Martyn's in the hope of finding an archivist who might tell me more about my grandfather's work to no avail and also the PRO who have limited information. I now hope that someone on the list may know more about the Company or be able to tell me where to research next. Thank you. My grandfather was Samuel Henry Parker, who originated in Devon and then moved with his wife Lucy (formerly Condy / Cundy) to Cheltenham where my father Henry John (sometimes known as John Henry) Parker was born in 1904. Forgive me I do not reply immediately but will be working in Auschwitz ! un! > til the 20th November. Again, thank you. > Jackie Henderson formerly Parker > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.1/1781 - Release Date: 11/11/2008 08:59 > >

Hello Pav, In the 1901 census for England and Wales there is an Arthur J Bentley aged 4yrs living with his family on Stockport Road, Levenshulme which is a part of Manchester. Ref: RG13/Piece 3692/Folio 48/Page 5 This Arthur's father is Harold J Bentley and I have found a Harold J Bentley in the 1871 census aged 11 months with his family headed by his father James. Ref: RG10/Piece 3979/Folio 118/Page 11. They are living in Gorton, also a part of Manchester. In both the censuses the father is an employer, Harold being an ?engineer and James a whitesmith and billhanger. None of this is conclusive of course but worth considering. If you don't already have these or have access to them I can send the images directly to you as an attachment. HTH Sandra Hi All, Being such an important day today it reminded me of one of my brickwalls. One of my branches involves the Bentley Family from Bristol. Arthur Joy Bentley married Ada Winnifred Woodman 13 Mar 1920 Bristol. Although I have the marr cert I can find nothing which might lead me further finding the birth or parents of Arthur, I Have been unable to trace anything birth or parentage on Arthur although it seems he may have Been born Up North Manchester or possibly In Australia?? A bit of a mystery really?? >From Australian National Archives: Bentley Arthur Joy : SERN 3274 : POB Manchester England : POE Sydney NSW : NOK W Bentley Jane First World War Unit Embarkation Rolls This is a roll of those who embarked to serve overseas during the First World War. Also in more detail. First World War Unit Embarkation Rolls Bentley, Arthur Service Number: 3274 Rank/Calling: Private Unit: 33 Infantry Battalion - 7 and 8 Reinforcements (n.d.) Ship Name: HMAT Port Melbourne Ship Number: A16 Date of Embarkation: 16/07/1917 Place of Embarkation: Sydney However I came across this death entry and find it seemingly very coincidental that The "Joy" Bentley connection and first Name was Winnifred this might be a chance in a million connection I am looking for, (this is not the Ada Winnifred Bentley (Woodman) I mentioned above.) Would anyone have anything on the following person or family. Winifred Joy Bentley Birth Date: 3 Jan 1923 Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 2002 Age at death (estimated): 79 Registration district: Cheltenham Inferred County: Gloucestershire Register number: B64D District and Subdistrict: 4791B Entry Number: 95 Any help or suggestions appreciated. Pav Swindon _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message