Duncan, I enjoyed your great information. I think Peter Glenday possibly may have been from Perthshire. When he returned to Scotland in 1823, he went to Blairgowrie. James Glenday who came to Missouri was married to Charlotte Kettray. He died pretty young, and my great great grandfather, John Jay Johns looked after Charlotte. She was his wife, Jane Amanda Durfees great aunt. This is also a test to see if the Glenday list gets it. Susan D. Chambless listowner for the CHAMBLESS, GAUSS, GLENDAY, BORDEN, DURFEE, SANDERSON & JOHNS surname lists, now at RootsWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com - please join us! Check it out: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~schmblss I'm posting a lot of old family letters & papers centered around the Charles Henry Gauss family of St. Charles, MO. Surnames are: Gauss, Johns, Fawcett, Glenday, Durfee, Lindsay, plus, of course, the people they knew. ----- Original Message ----- From: D.N. Glenday <dglenday@iname.com> To: <GLENDAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:43 AM Subject: [GLENDAY] Some Glenday Family Information > All, > > I am researching the Angus-originated family of Glenday. > > I have asked several people for general Glenday family information, > but received no replies. Perhaps not much information is known? > > My small amount of research to date shows the following. I hope > you find it useful, and if you have additional - or different - > information, I would very much like to hear it! > > Thanks, > > Duncan Glenday > > ============================================== > > AGE > > The earliest record of the name was in 1569, when a William > Glendy (note the spelling) obtained a decree against the earl of > Crawfurd. > > > SOURCE OF NAME > > The name originally derived from a valley (i.e. a Scottish glen, or a > Gaelic gleann) called the "Glen of Dye", sometimes spelled the > "Glen of Dee" or "Glendee", in what used to be called County > Angus. As was common in medieval times, the residents took the > name of the place they lived or owned land. There is still a strong > representation of the Glendei and Glenday family names in Angus > today. > > There is also a place called "Glenday" in Angus, Scotland. ( My > parents were there many years ago - I am still trying to find it on a > map.) > > > FAMILY GEOGRAPHY > > Glendee is in County Angus. Branches of Glenday seem to have > grown in Forfar (the county seat of Angus), Dundee (my branch of > the family), Airlie and Kirriemuir. > > In the 17th century some of the Glendays settled in Northern > Ireland and Norther England, and several spelling variants of the > name emerged. > > Two separate branches of the family emmigrated to South Africa in > the late-1800s, but like so many other anglo saxons living in South > Africa, many of them are now emmigrating from that country and > settling in America or Australia. > > In the 18th and 19th centuries, Glendays settled in Australia, > America, Canada and New Zealand. A John Glendy (note the > spelling) came to Baltimore in 1799, a James Glenday came to > Missouri in 1829, and Peter (Patrick?) Glenday lived temporarily in > Missouri around 1817. > > > CLAN > > Glenday is a sept of the clan Graham of Montrose. This is > information that has been passed down through many generations > of my family. Seems there was a Peter Glenday (or Glendy?) in the > house of the Earl of Montrose. I have searched for official > confirmation, and the closest I have come is confirmation that > "Glenny" is a sept of this clan. I will keep searching. > > > TARTAN > > Because of the 'sept' relationship we have with clan Graham, the > Glendays wear the tartan of Graham of Montrose. > > OTHER SPELLINGS > > Glendye, Glendee, Glendy, Glendei, Glendey, Glenny, Glandee, > etc. > > > > HERALDRY ETC. > > The family crest and the motto seem to have evolved, and there are > an ancient and a modern version : > > Ancient (Reference : Burke's general armory) : > > Blazon of arms : > > Argent, a cross between 4 bees, sable, crest lion issuant, gules > > I.e. a white badge, a black cross, and a bee in each quadrant > > The crest (i.e. on top of the shield) has a red lion, issuant. > (A charge represented as issuing from another charge. When an > animal is represented as issuant only the upper half is depicted.) > > White : peace and sincerity - white was sometimes shown as silver > > Cross : faith > > Bees : industry > > Black : constancy > > Red : courage > > Motto : > > PRO REGE ET GREGE : (For king and people) > > The modern version is a joining of 2 blazons of arms, and > consequently, a very complex design. > (Reference : Heraldic Promotions, Surrey, England) > > Blazon of arms : > > Per pale, dexter, fesse gules, 3 bees, sable on argent 2 and 1, and > sinister 3 stars, 1 azure on or, 1 or on azure chevron, under arms > and 1 bee sable and 2 wings dexter or, sinister azure. > > Also described as : > > Argent a fesse gules, 3 bees, sable impaling: chevron or and azure > in chief 2 stars azure in base 1 star or under arms, and 1 bee sable > and 2 wings dexter or, sinister azure. > > Per pale : Split into halves - because this was a joining of the > ancient Glenday arms, (described above) and another family's > arms. Not sure which family this was. > > Impaled By : Also means split in 2 halves > > Dexter : means right hand side - as you HOLD the shield. I.e. the > left side as you view it. So imagine the shield split in half > longitudinally, with the left side decorated with a modified version of > the ancient Glenday arms, (described above) as follows : > > Silver background, divided by a red bar, with 2 black bees side-by- > side in the top half, and one in the bottom half. As with the ancient > shield, the silver background was often shown as white. > > Sinister : means left hand side - as you HOLD the shield. I.e. the > right side as you view it. So the right half of the shield is decorated > as follows : > > Divided horizontally by a chevron (a peaked line - like this: / \ ). > > The top half is gold (often shown as yellow), with 2 blue stars, side- > by-side. > > The bottom half is blue, with 1 gold star (often shown as yellow) > > On top of the shield (I.e. the crest) is the helmet portion of a suit of > armor . This is called "arms", and denotes scottish peerage. Above > this is another black bee, and a gold wing on the left (as you view > it), and a black wing on the right (as you view it). > > Motto : > > ALTE PETE (Alte = high, Pete = seek, go, strive; rough translation > therefore is Reach High) > > > > Hope you find this useful, > > Duncan Glenday > > > ==== GLENDAY Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > Messages to this list are archived. > To look at the archives, go to: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > You will be asked to create an account. 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