Hi List Members, how goes the research? I am back to re-sending some of the information from the original group mailing members. 1. From Dick at rland@coastalnet.com Hello to all - All this recent talk about the Glass family origins in Ireland has led me to think some more about Mary Gamble who married Samuel Glass sometime about 1710. As far as we know, both were born in Ireland and came to America about 1735 and settled in Frederick County [Winchester] VA. My wife is directly descended from them as is Mary Seiley. My wife is also directly descended from Elizabeth Gamble who married Captain Samuel Baker in old Frederick County, VA about 1810. We know a little bit more about Elizabeth Gamble's family than we do about Mary Gamble's family. I think they simply have to be connected somehow, so I'm sending what I know about Elizabeth Gamble's family in the hope that a connection may sometime be made with Mary Gamble Glass. A few years ago I discovered, in the Handley Library Archives, Winchester, Va., a 4 page unpublished manuscript, "A Short History of the Gamble Family," by Archibald Gamble written in 1858. Archibald is the brother of Elizabeth Gamble who married Samuel Baker and also the brother of Hamilton Gamble, the Civil Wat governor of Missouri. In this paper, Archibald states that his "grandfather, Joseph Gamble married Miss Montgomery, the daughter of a farmer of county Derry, Ireland, and immigrated to America about the year 1753 with their young son, Archibald." After two years of living in Pennsylvania, Joseph and his family returned to county Derry, Ireland. When their eldest son, Archibald, became eighteen years old, he embarked for America to receive an education. He eventually became a professor of Latin and Greek at the University of Pennsylvania, married Mary Lisle, daughter of John Lisle of Philadelphia. Another son, Joseph Gamble, born in county Derry on May 20, 1755 married Ann Hamilton [born May 20, 1760, the daughter of John Hamilton of the Strath and Mary Carr] in county Derry on March 12, 1781. They embarked for the United States in 1784. Joseph's brother, Archibald, came to meet them at the dock and contracted the ship fever and died soon after. Joseph Gamble, and his wife, Mary Carr Gamble, settled temporarily in New Castle, Del. but soon made their permanent home in Winchester, VA. Unfortunately, no mention is made of Joseph's occupation in Winchester other than the fact that he was an unpaid Justice of the Peace under Virginia's old constitution [a position of high honor and responsibility at that time]. I have not been able to determine why they chose Winchester but have a hunch it was because of Samuel Glass and Mary Gamble. For what it is worth, Joseph Gamble had two sisters who also came to the U.S. Margaret married John Allen and settled in Kentucky: Eleanor married John Anderson and settled in Virginia. Joseph's son, Archibald, who wrote the family history apologizes for not getting more information from his parents and says, "Of my mother's family in Ireland, I neglected to obtain the information I might have gotten from her. I left the parental roof at the age of 21 years, when such matters had no interest for me, but this much I remember; - - Her father, John Hamilton of the Strath was a landed proprietor, and had a numberous [sic] family of Hamiltons, Carrs, Montgomersy [sic], et. al, and that her great=grand-mother on the mother's side was carried, when a child, in the arms of a young man (who afterwards became her husband) into the town of Londonderry when the Protestant families of the country were obliged to take shelter from the murderous assaults of King James, the Second's army, and that she and her family remained in the city during the whole of that remarkable siege. Of my father's family in Ireland, all I learned of it before I started out in life, was that two brothers of that name immigrated from Northumberland County, England to Ireland in the latter part of the seventeenth century; that from one of the brothers my father was descended." I send this to you for what it is worth. I'm certain some material will turn up that will link to this information. I also have a Gamble line that comes from Charles Gamble of Nashville TN that lists the descendants of Robert Gamble who left Londonderry, Ireland about 1735 and settled in Bucks County, Pa. and then moved to Augusta County, VA. This line must connect somehow with Joseph Gamble but, so far, I haven't made the connection. I am also certain that both of these lines will eventually connect with Mary Gamble Glass and we'll find the Glass family origins somewhere close to county Derry. That will be part of my research when I'm in Winchester the end of April. 2. From Sandy at Spelham@aol.com I have "inherited" my Glass family research from my great half-uncle. I have done none of the research myself, but will gladly share what I have. Understand, however, that I have no documentation for this, as Uncle has not included his sources! At the top of my Glass tree is Levi (The Elder), who was been born between 1730 and 1735 in Virginia. He died in 1779 in North Carolina, USA. Levi was my ggg-grandfather. Uncle writes that Levi "was a part of the Highlanders who came up the Cape Fear." and a second message from Sandy .... My most wanted GLASS? I'd like to know the parentage of Levi Glass (The Elder), born in VA around 1735. He married Mary ? in VA about 1754. They had 7 children: Solomon, Mary, Littleton, Levi (to become Sr., born in NC), Thomas, Ritta, and Rebecca. Levi the Elder was was a tavern keeper in Lumber Bridge Plantation, in Old Bladen County, N.C. 3. From Ron & Paula at paulagl@bedford.heartland.net Hi, Sorry I have been slow to answer. My husband and I have had very little success in locating info about his family. An uncle gave us the following with no dates, written from past to present: James Glass--married Elizabeth Eagle Son-M. Nelius Glass--married Elizabeth Rasnic Son-James Franklin Glass--married Mary Newberry Son-James Millieu Glass--marred Nora Ellen Baker Son-Ray Vernon Glass--married Dorothy Souder Son-Ronald Ray Glass--married Paula Downing Most of the family until the last two generations lived in Lee County, VA. If anyone has a connection or information, we would appreciate hearing from you. 4. From Charles at cjglass@erols.com Hi Mike, My wife Agnes and I have been researching the Glass and allied families for some years. Among our finds was material in the DAR Library in Washington DC that may be of interrest to you. The material is contained in: 1. The Glass - Payne Genealogy (published 1946) 2. Dr. Wm. H. Foote's "Sketches of Virginia" (published 1855) 3. K.T. Cartwell's "Shenandoah Valley Pioneers and their Descendants" (date of publication not noted) 4. J. Harris' "History of the Lower Shenandoah Valley" (date of publication not noted) 5. Katherine Glass Greene's "Winchester VA and its Beginnings" (date of publication not noted) Agnes copied tidbits from these publications but I have not made an effort to type them. Here are some extracts: (1) Samuel Glass, earliest ancestor of the Glass family of Fredrick Cty. Virginia, emigrated from Banbridge, County Down ---. A family chart says "Samuel Glass and his wife Mary Gamble came from Ireland in 1735, settled on the Opequon in 1736. They were advanced in life when they came with children and grandchildren. He purchased 1600 acres of land from Jost Hite and Lord Faifax whose grants were divided on the Opequon." (2) A deed from Jost Hite to Samuel Glass, dated Nov. 26, 1742 conveyed 900 acres on the head of the Opequon ---." (3) The numerous Cartmell and Glass Springs at the base of Little North Mountain. about 4 miles southwest of Winchester are the head springs of Opequon Cr. and afforded water power for a stone mill which Samuel Glass erected about 1736. (2) Samuel Glass and Mary Gamble, his wife who came in their old age from Ban Bridge, County Down, Ireland, were among the earliest settlers taking theri abode on the Opequan in 1736.--- (3) A clipping from the Belfast Witness says - in 1736 a number of families emigrated from Ban Bridge and neighborhood. Among them were members of the Glass --- families. These people settled in the Shenandoah Valley. Samuel Glass had six children John, Eliza, Sarah, David, Robert, and Joseph, all born in Ban Bridge. (3) This publication also contains a listing of the descendants of each of Samuel's children. (4 & 5) Records show that Samuel Glass did settle on the Opequan and he an his family erected at least 5 of the colonial houses that now stand including "Greenwood", "Stony Mead", "Long Madow", "Bellville", and "Rose Hill". Sorry Bruce, no Scots among this bunch, but Mike, I hope these leads will be helpful. I suspect that Carter Glass of Virginia (a U.S. Senator, and a Secretary of the US Treasury who was co-author of still-existng Federal banking laws) traces his ancestry back to Samuel Glass. In any case the DAR Library has a separately published book on the Carter Glass family history. I doubt that these Opequan Glasses were directly related to my ancestor Jacob Glass of Cambria County PA.. I shall send a few more at a later date. On another note, in case someone loses list information I am saving all of the messages posted to the list. If you need information from a past list just let me know the list number and I shall send it to you. And a bit of Kiwi trivia, out of a total population of 3.4 million Kiwi's, 1.2 million are now connected to the Net. Happy Hunting, regards Bruce Glass, List Master.