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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: glanville,barte,hugh. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/66.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: kathy further to your search for relatives of john bartle,as i said in my previous board i am linked to the bartle's via john's father robert born 1782 who had 6 brothers and 3 sisters.my line is from robert's brother richard born 1792.i would love to hear from youto compare notes. anthony.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: bartle,evans,hugh Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/66.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: kathy could you get in touch have info on bartle's i am ann bartle's brother david's great great grandson. clive.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GLANVILLE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/78 Message Board Post: I've been doing extensive on-line research for Chase County Kansas area from the 1830's to World War II. Although not related to my Surname Research, I came across this amazing story on a Glanville family in Chase county Kansas. It may have circulated already, but if not, I hope it will help somenoe in their research or for historical references. I'm searching Judge Madden's family and the surnames of Harris and Hazel in Chase County, Kansas. BOMBER CRASH AT JACK GLANVILLE HOME July 19, 1944 Just before noon on July 19, 1944, the Jack Glanville home southeast of Cottonwood Falls, and the farm buildings were destroyed by fire from the crash of a 4-motored bomber, and from the resulting explosion of a butane tank used in the modern equipped home. The bomber was on a secret mission from Memphis, Tennessee. Five Army Airmen were killed and a Sergeant was severely injured as he crawled from the burning wreckage. They were from the 59th Ferry Squadron, 4th Ferry Group, of` Memphis. The plane struck the house, barn, and sheds and brought up against the silo. Mrs. Glanville who was cooking dinner, rushed from the house and was struck by part of a falling wing. Mr. Glanville and their three sons were assisting county road men, Charles Gurney and O.W. "Doc" Parks, in construction of a road to the Glanville place. Seeing it all, they rushed to the scene. Mr. Gurney reached Mrs. Glanville first and stayed with her while Glanville and Parks and the oldest son risked their lives in the exploding ammunition and flares to drive a tractor, truck, and car to safety. Nothing inside the house could be saved. Immediately authorities notified the Herington Air Base and a three place plane with three officers arrived about 1:00 p.m. After a brief inspection, the Lieutenant Colonel in charge ordered the plane on a mission, and, in taking off, it failed to rise above a fence, crashing and burning - the second plane to crash and burn there in the space of a few hours. Soon a Red Cross Ambulance arrived and the Medical officers took care of the injured. The Military took over and local people were turned back from the scene. By 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday most of the wreckage had been cleared away, much of the Army Personnel had returned to their base, but guards were still on duty Tuesday night. Mrs. Glanville was hospitatized for a short time, as was the one survivor of the bomber; the two injured in the second accident were treated locally. Monday night, Cottonwood Falls was bristling with soldiers with guns strapped to their sides and jeeps, coming and going through Main Street, and officers in cars on missions known only to the Army. This was an awful tragedy - almost equal to the crash that killed Knute Rockne and seven others a few miles southwest of there in 1931. The loss to the Glanville's was great, for insurance cannot take care of everything; but the shock to the Glanville's was awful - something that will stand out always in their memories. The above prepared from article in the CHASE COUNTY LEADER, July 21, 1944. Issued by Mr. and Mrs. Floyd Dexter (Lillian Glanville Dexter) and Evangeline Glanville. Chase County Centennial, 1872 - 1972 Chase County Submitted Historical Sketches compiled and abstracted from the Chase County Courant, Chase County Leader, other sources and newspapers by your Chase County Host, Lorna Marvin. Please submit your historical sketches.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RIDDOLLS, CREWSON, GLANVILLE, MORDEN, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/9.35 Message Board Post: Helen's e-mail address changed to curiousgenes@telus.net

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Glanville/Barratt/Foster/ Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nBZ.2ACEB/77 Message Board Post: Have a Walter E BARRATT/BARRETT married to Hannah GLANVILLE/GLANVILL. They married in Colyton Devon. It is known that Walter E Barratt and Hannah Glanville moved to Aspull, Wigan Lancs. One of their daughters Elizabeth( Bessie) BARRATT married George FOSTER in Wigan, Lancs. Their third child, a daughter was named Glanville. By 1901 three of Bessie's siblings were also living with her in Wigan.. Another daughter Minnie emmigrated to Canada and several of the other children emigrated to Australia. Is anyone researching Hanna Glanville either in Devon or Lancashire? Her husband Walter E Barratt/ Barrett died in Whelley, Wigan, Lancashire. Love to hear from you if you can link to this family Tthelma Johannesburg South Africa

Folks, RootsWeb's mail servers are being located overnight, Wed to Thu this week, so most of RootsWeb's services, including the HelpDesk, will be down/stopped/off-line during the relocation. RootsWeb's Message Boards <http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/script/main/rw> and World Connect <http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/> will be available as they have already been relocated. E-mail bound for RootsWeb should be held by your ISP automatically until the servers are back on-line and ready to receive e-mail again. If an e-mail does bounce back to you, please hold off re-sending it for a period of six hours. The time scheduled for the servers to be off is Thu, 19 Jan, from midnight until 6 a.m. in Utah (MST). This translates to the starting time in the USA & Canada of Thu, 2 a.m. (EST), 1 a.m. (CST), Wed, 11 p.m. (PST), etc. In the U.K., it's 7 a.m. (GMT); in NZ, 8 p.m. ; in Aus, 6 p.m. (AEDT), all on Thu. There is an associated issue ... As part of the server relocation, there is a "high possibility" that some/all of the servers will be getting new IP addresses. The potential problem is that if particular ISPs have whitelisted current RootsWeb IP addresses, the new addresses might very well be blacklisted unless/until RootsWeb can contact the relevant ISPs to allow mail through unimpeded. RootsWeb and I will be watching for this eventuality on this list ... some patience on your part might be required! Thanks ... any comments to me off-list, please ... Peter List Admin.

Re a message from Barbara found on Message Boards.......cannot find an e-mail address for her can anyone help? I have a Bessie Barratt m to George Foster in Wigan and in 1901 she has three of her siblings living with her and her third child a daughter is named Glanville Foster - Bessie was born in Colyton Devon and her siblings were born in Aspull Wigan Lancs. I also have her parents having emigrated to Australia with four of their children and leaving others in England. This could fit with the information Barbara has on the message Board and I would be very grateful if she would contact me so that we can compare notes with a view to sharing information. George Foster was a gtUncle of mine, son of Thomas Foster and Mary Hague. Thelma Hurly Johannesburg South Africa tjhurly@mweb.co.za

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nBZ.2ACEB/76.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry Marilyn: My Thomas b. 1782 parents are Wm & Jane Bennett Glanville b cir 1740 m East Newlyn, Cornwall in 1762. As far as I know my group stayed pretty much in East Newlyn, Colon, St Enoder, & St Columb Major.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nBZ.2ACEB/76.1 Message Board Post: I am researching my Glanville family ancestory who originated from Devon.However,there doesn't seem to be any info. on THOMAS GLANVILLE born 1762,Ottery St.Mary,Devon.Just wondering if his parents came from a neighbouring county.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/nBZ.2ACEB/76 Message Board Post: I haven't seen anything posted on our group from this area in sometime - Has anyone found anything new? I haven't had much time to work on this line and have lost touch with Australia & England branches. Happy New Year All! Kathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/67.1.1 Message Board Post: Richard, I don't think that it is the same family. Thanks for the reply anyway. Jeff

My ggreat grandfather was THOMAS GLANVILLE b. in Cornwall, England 1807 and came to America in 1830 to St. Louis County, Missouri. Also lived in Franklin County, MO, Greene County, MO Nianguau County, MO and ended up in Hickory County, MO where he died in 1863. Lotus Ellen GLANVILLE's father John Thomas GLANVILLE is a brother to my greatgrandfather William Reser GLANVILLE. Would love to correspond with the person who posted about Lotus Ellen GLANVILLE. My family and Lotus' is certainly connected. My e-mail address is dotndash@netins.net Thank You in advance for your reply........Dorothy Mead

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/75 Message Board Post: Looking for info. on name of parents of THOMAS GLANVILLE ,wife,SARAH DYER.This Thomas was father to THOMAS GLANVILLE,born approx.1762,OTTERY ST.MARY,DEVON,ENGLAND

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/nBZ.2ACEB/67.1 Message Board Post: Jeff, I'm aware of a Glanville daughter, family from Cornwall, who married a Snow in Missouri, approx. 1890's. Name of their first daughter was Lotus Ellen Snow. What do you think?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/nBZ.2ACEB/74.1 Message Board Post: My Glanvillle website has probates that might be of use: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glanville/index.html One is: 1905 GLANVILLE James Cornelius of Derby House, North End, Portsmouth who died 2 December 1904. Probate at London on 10 June to John Foster Glanville, solicitor, effects £6323-19-7. If you search for "Portsmouth" in the Probates Index you will find eleven in all. Then go to the probates list in the year given in each case. The names Burden and Brewer do not appear in my Executors index. Ray Turner, rturner@xtra.co.nz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Glanville, Burden, Brewer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/nBZ.2ACEB/74 Message Board Post: I am trying to work out if there is any connection between the Glanville, Burden and Brewer families. What I think I have so far is: 1841 census John and Mary Burden + children living in Dorset - some children have been born in Sussex/Hants, so they have obviously lived elsewhere Ann Glanvill - an independant widow with children including Theresa, Adolphus and Angelina, living in Portsmouth. I believe her late husband was John Karritt Glanville (d1838). she also has a son named James CORNELIUS Glanville - Cornelius is an often-repeated Burden name. 1851 census John and Mary Burden have moved to Portsmouth in a street next to Ann's 1841 address and have acquired three extra children - not new births since 1841 but older children. Their names are Theresa, Adolphus and Angelina and there ages tie up with Ann's children of 1841. They are listed as sons/daughters and have the surname Burden. Theresa is married to Robert Anderson so I tried looking for the marriage - Robert Anderson married Thirza Maria Glanville. I think Ann remarried in 1850, but it is one of those listings where there is just one name on the page, so I haven't got her husband's surname. I am working on finding these children in later census returns and it appears that they have reverted to the surname Glanville. Adolphus Burden was a painter in 1851 - so was Adolphus Glanville in 1881. Angelina married George Mussell and moved to Brighton. All these coincidences make me think that there must be some sort of relationship between the two families - maybe Ann G was John Burden's sister? Anyone any ideas? Catherine

Just a routine test, folks, to make sure the list is working correctly ... nothing to be alarmed about. Any comments to me off-list, please. Thanks & regards, Peter List Admin.

I see the registration in the birth index for 3rd quarter of 1895 - GLANVILLE Annie Elizabeth, Bethnal Green. I could not find Annie in Ancestry's index of the 1901 census unless she was recorded as born elsewhere: Annie Glanville born about 1895 at Birmingham, adopted daughter of John and Annie HERBY, living in Birmingham. Ann Glanville born about 1895 at Quebec, Durham, daughter of James and Annetta GLANVILLE living at Esh, Durham. Your Annie's birth certificate should give her parents. Regards, Ray Turner Epsom, Auckland, New Zealand http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~glanville/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <thegeorgefamily@austarnet.com.au> To: <GLANVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [GLANVILLE] annie elizabeth glanville > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > i am reseaching the glanville's from bethnal green london. > > Annie elizabeth Glanville was born 1895 in bethnal green london(to be confirmed) and died in 1941 at the age of 45yrs she was married to John Nicholls would love to hear from anybody connected with Annie or her family. thanks