Jeff and List, Thankyou for your help in finding my AUNTY Ellen Hooley b.1889 m 1909 to Michael PHILLIPSbut nowI have now been trying to find the birth of my GREAT AUNT Ellen HOOLEY b. abt 1864 in Cardiff Glamorgan, Wales , parents Thomas Hooley 1. and Mary Ann Fitzgerald on FreeBMD but no results are coming up. Tried the FreeCen of 1851 Census for Cardiff/ Glamorgan but still no results for the family. I found a marriage for Ellen Hooley in Mar 1896 but when I go into the page site, where it usually has a few names and try to work out who the husband is, it only shows me her name or goes back to the main search page. The numbers shown are Vol 11a 524a.. so what does this a mean? Illegible writing and unable to read the name? How can I find her married name and check out the census? Thanks for any help with this. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> To: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]>; "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup If you go to www.FreeBMD.org.uk instead of to the second-hand Ancestry version, you can use the 'spectacles' link on the right of the search results to see the original document that the transcription was made from, and in many cases a better image. The FreeBMD transcription is _1_ not just 1, and the _ indicates that another number is present but unreadable. In fact if you look at the linked image ANC-05/P-Z/1857M1-S-0225.jpg you will see that the page number for Bridget SHEA is 412 I have submitted a correction request via the FreeBMD facility so there is no need for anyone else to do so. The corrected version should be in the FreeBMD database within about 2 to 3 months. I do not know whether Ancestry corrects their version of FreeBMD data when FreeBMD is updated, and how much delay there is. By selecting all marriages in Merthyr Tydfil district in that quarter ( something easy to do on FreeBMD - don't know whether a commercial site like Ancestry would allow it) and using CTRL-F you can find the other entries already transcribed as page 412 are ALLEN,David which I confirm is correctly transcribed DAVIES,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed DWYER,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed WILLIAMS,Thomas which I confirm is correctly transcribed I assume that unless Margaret Davies and Margaret Dwyer were the same person, with an alias, there ought to be another male on this page number. I can't find him immediately. I confirm that there was no GRADY or O'GRADY entry in Merthyr Tydfil district in March quarter 1857 There are quite a lot of Irish surnames in the pages following 412, including 414, 416 and 417, so that run of GRO index numbers might be from the register of a Catholic church, or a register office if no Catholic Church was registered at the time. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup > This is what Ancestry has > Name: Bridget Shea > Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1857 > Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil > Inferred County: Glamorgan > Volume Number: 11a > Page Number: 1 > Records on Page: > Name > Mary Ann Harris > Thomas Howell > James Jones > Thomas Keil > Bridget Shea > > Source Information: > FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 > [database > on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. > Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil > Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. > > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Susan Haines <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello, when I search freebmd for a marriage for Bridget Shea, I >> find one >> in Merthyr which is where she lived in Mar Quarter 1857, vol 1a, >> but the >> page seems corrupted, I guess. I am not able to look for spouse >> which I >> am hoping will be either James Grady or John Grady. Is some one >> able to >> look for this record in some other way? >> >> You may be very tired of this search but I am looking for a Bridget >> Grady who died in New Haven, Ct. Her death certificate said her >> maiden >> name was Shea and her husband "James Grady". Given all the tracing >> I >> have done in New Haven from one year to the next I believed her to >> be >> Bridget Moran Grady, not Shea Grady. If she was indeed Shea then >> she >> could be my gr gr aunt, otherwise she is gr gr aunt-in-law. >> >> thank you, again, for your patience. >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To send to the list send to [email protected] >> GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >> - >> This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> - >> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, >> may be >> found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ >> >> - >> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, > may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is an 1861 census entry for a Thomas Hooley b 1836 Ireland with wife Mary A and two children, Mary A aged 3 and William aged 7 months, in Henry Street, Cardiff. Could they be Ellen's parents and siblings? In 1871 Ellen Hooley b 1864 is described as a niece living with William and Ellen Williams in Roath, Cardiff. I think she must be the "Gellon Hooly" aged 17 in the same household in 1881 now described as general servant. I haven't found her in 1891. Pamela Thankyou for your help in finding my AUNTY Ellen Hooley b.1889 m 1909 to Michael PHILLIPSbut nowI have now been trying to find the birth of my GREAT AUNT Ellen HOOLEY b. abt 1864 in Cardiff Glamorgan, Wales , parents Thomas Hooley 1. and Mary Ann Fitzgerald on FreeBMD but no results are coming up. Tried the FreeCen of 1851 Census for Cardiff/ Glamorgan but still no results for the family. I found a marriage for Ellen Hooley in Mar 1896 but when I go into the page site, where it usually has a few names and try to work out who the husband is, it only shows me her name or goes back to the main search page. The numbers shown are Vol 11a 524a.. so what does this a mean? Illegible writing and unable to read the name? How can I find her married name and check out the census? Thanks for any help with this. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> To: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]>; "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup If you go to www.FreeBMD.org.uk instead of to the second-hand Ancestry version, you can use the 'spectacles' link on the right of the search results to see the original document that the transcription was made from, and in many cases a better image. The FreeBMD transcription is _1_ not just 1, and the _ indicates that another number is present but unreadable. In fact if you look at the linked image ANC-05/P-Z/1857M1-S-0225.jpg you will see that the page number for Bridget SHEA is 412 I have submitted a correction request via the FreeBMD facility so there is no need for anyone else to do so. The corrected version should be in the FreeBMD database within about 2 to 3 months. I do not know whether Ancestry corrects their version of FreeBMD data when FreeBMD is updated, and how much delay there is. By selecting all marriages in Merthyr Tydfil district in that quarter ( something easy to do on FreeBMD - don't know whether a commercial site like Ancestry would allow it) and using CTRL-F you can find the other entries already transcribed as page 412 are ALLEN,David which I confirm is correctly transcribed DAVIES,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed DWYER,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed WILLIAMS,Thomas which I confirm is correctly transcribed I assume that unless Margaret Davies and Margaret Dwyer were the same person, with an alias, there ought to be another male on this page number. I can't find him immediately. I confirm that there was no GRADY or O'GRADY entry in Merthyr Tydfil district in March quarter 1857 There are quite a lot of Irish surnames in the pages following 412, including 414, 416 and 417, so that run of GRO index numbers might be from the register of a Catholic church, or a register office if no Catholic Church was registered at the time. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup > This is what Ancestry has > Name: Bridget Shea > Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1857 > Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil > Inferred County: Glamorgan > Volume Number: 11a > Page Number: 1 > Records on Page: > Name > Mary Ann Harris > Thomas Howell > James Jones > Thomas Keil > Bridget Shea > > Source Information: > FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 > [database > on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. > Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil > Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. > > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Susan Haines <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello, when I search freebmd for a marriage for Bridget Shea, I >> find one >> in Merthyr which is where she lived in Mar Quarter 1857, vol 1a, >> but the >> page seems corrupted, I guess. I am not able to look for spouse >> which I >> am hoping will be either James Grady or John Grady. Is some one >> able to >> look for this record in some other way? >> >> You may be very tired of this search but I am looking for a Bridget >> Grady who died in New Haven, Ct. Her death certificate said her >> maiden >> name was Shea and her husband "James Grady". Given all the tracing >> I >> have done in New Haven from one year to the next I believed her to >> be >> Bridget Moran Grady, not Shea Grady. If she was indeed Shea then >> she >> could be my gr gr aunt, otherwise she is gr gr aunt-in-law. >> >> thank you, again, for your patience. >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To send to the list send to [email protected] >> GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >> - >> This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> - >> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, >> may be >> found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ >> >> - >> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, > may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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