Hello Michael, Welcome to the Glamorgan List. I am also researching two separate lines of John JONES and have them both in all census where they are as John JONES. One family is of Upper Neath Valley and the other who married a Mary JONES [ can't get away from them can I?] came from Cardiganshire. Maybe because you have failed to find your ancestor that you have decided he was using patronymics? I note that you use FMP if that is your nice to look at website of Londales? We could perhaps help you in your search if you could give us his possible date of birth and place he was born. Is there a particular name or occupation in the family that could distinguish this particular family? I was sure I had mine when I found Periniah Jones, who had been my gt aunt's aunt who had described her and given me her name, which stuck in my mind. I found that FMP sometimes does not have some pages of a census - even recently an 1881 entry which seemed odd, especially when I searched ancestry I found this immediately - all three census years. My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: 16 September 2013 10:16 To: [email protected] Subject: [GLA] Another name for John I am trying to a John Jones and his family in the 1841 and 1851 census. I believe that EVAN is a Welsh name for John, are there any other Welsh male names that also mean JOHN. Many thanks Michael