After reading Jeff's reply, I wondered what other than Bastardy Orders was the norm when my illegimate great grand-father was born in 1852. I found this interesting website http://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/information_and_explanation/world/hist ory_uk.htm Which led to this http://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/guest_contributions/snow_illegitimate/ index.htm which isn't in my timeline, but of interest. >From my research into my g-g-father's case I believe he was privately supported and he later took the surname of his father, as I was able to trace him. My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: 04 September 2013 00:28 To: Karen Ball-Pyatt; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GLA] Definition of "affiliate" in relation to a birth out ofwedlock I think that Mona and Patricia have given good answers to the query. As she did not take out affiliation proceedings against the putative father, he would not have had to pay his 3 shillings and 6 pence a week (the 1881 rate) to maintain the child, but he would also not have had any rights to have contact with the child or to have any say in the child's upbringing. At least that is my understanding of the situation as it then was in UK. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Ball-Pyatt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: [GLA] Definition of "affiliate" in relation to a birth out ofwedlock > Hi, > I am researching a breach of promise court case that involved my > great-grandfather's older sister in 1893 in Cardiff. In the newspaper > report of the case, it said: > > On the 3rd of April, 1892, she was delivered of a male child. She did > not affiliate the child, as her parents objected to it. > > In this context, does "affiliate" refer to the degree of her emotional > attachment to the child? (I suspect that this might my 21st century > interpretation of the word). Could it refer to the naming of the child? > She gave her son her last name, but the father's surname as a middle > name. The name of the father was not given on the birth certificate. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > Karen > Waterloo, ON Canada -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message