Hi Helen, This does not appear to be related to the switch from the Julian Calendar to the Gregorian calendar which occurred about 1582 and was implemented about 1752 in Great Britain. This just changed the starting date of the calendar year. The delay in implementing it caused a loss (I think of several days) due to the method of calculating years and leap years. Your dates are much later and are 13 months (from 25 Nov 1843 to 15 Oct 1942) which in my opinion is not trivial. So I don't think this "time difference is so small". Maybe Mr. Stockwood wanted to look older at some point in his life for some reason and once he fibbed once he stuck with it. I think the idea that there might have been a minimum age to be licensed as an Engineer is a good one. There must be a way to find out more about this. Peace, Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen D'All Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GLA] a discrepancy - opinions on what may be done? Hello all - I have a birth certificate for Thomas Stockwood, born 25 November 1843 to William Stockwood & Louisa Fullinlove. The birth was registered according to the certificate on 3 December 1843 - there is a corresponding entry in FreeBMD. I have just noticed that the same Thomas, in filling out his"Application to be examined for an Engineer's Certificate of Competency" in 1865, records his birth date as 15 October 1842 & have been unable to find a corresponding BMD entry. That they are one and the same person, ie the son of William, is validated by many, many documents covering his life as a ship's engineer, his subsequent death & the placement of one of his children in the Muller Home. At first I imagined there may have been some sort of reason, such as an age limit for a certificate that might have caused him to fudge the date, but the time difference is so small. Does anyone have an opinion on perhaps the why - whether I should try to solve this (and how?) thank you ... Helen
Remember that there was a fine payable if a birth was not registered within 6 weeks? By registering on 3 December, the parents were just outside that time frame for a date of 15 October, even if Thomas later adjusted his year of birth from 1843 to 1842. It was quite common for parents to 'adjust' the date to avoid the fine! Either year would have been OK for an Engineering Certificate of Competency provided he had the requisite qualifications. Nina On 30 July 2013 00:09, James R. Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Helen, > This does not appear to be related to the switch from the Julian Calendar > to > the Gregorian calendar which occurred about 1582 and was implemented about > 1752 in Great Britain. This just changed the starting date of the calendar > year. The delay in implementing it caused a loss (I think of several days) > due to the method of calculating years and leap years. > > Your dates are much later and are 13 months (from 25 Nov 1843 to 15 Oct > 1942) which in my opinion is not trivial. So I don't think this "time > difference is so small". Maybe Mr. Stockwood wanted to look older at some > point in his life for some reason and once he fibbed once he stuck with it. > I think the idea that there might have been a minimum age to be licensed as > an Engineer is a good one. There must be a way to find out more about > this. > Peace, > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] > On Behalf Of Helen D'All > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GLA] a discrepancy - opinions on what may be done? > > Hello all - I have a birth certificate for Thomas Stockwood, born 25 > November 1843 to William Stockwood & Louisa Fullinlove. The birth was > registered according to the certificate on 3 December 1843 - there is a > corresponding entry in FreeBMD. > I have just noticed that the same Thomas, in filling out his"Application to > be examined for an Engineer's Certificate of Competency" in 1865, records > his birth date as 15 October 1842 & have been unable to find a > corresponding > BMD entry. That they are one and the same person, ie the son of William, > is > validated by many, many documents covering his life as a ship's engineer, > his subsequent death & the placement of one of his children in the Muller > Home. > At first I imagined there may have been some sort of reason, such as an age > limit for a certificate that might have caused him to fudge the date, but > the time difference is so small. > Does anyone have an opinion on perhaps the why - whether I should try to > solve this (and how?) thank you ... Helen > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >