Eliz.Yes,I have already seen those links to President William Howard TAFT via "Google" finds. Even those links you provided me with don't explain the link from him to Jenkin FRANKLIN,[1515-1585]which is whatI am after. I have tapped into that link I provided which was on Ancestory,but it seems this Virgin contraption I am fitted with formy Web site addresses and other stuff din't seem to work for me? Cheers,Graham.Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.