I left out the key details of the 1871 census for Edward and Mary Powell and William Edward was born about 1800 in Baglan,Glamorgan and Mary about 1805 in Newton Nottage parish (near Porthcawl). Children living with them at the time were Francis age 27, Alice age 32, Ann age 30, all born at Margam, and there was also a grandson whose name might be Edward Horniman age 10, born Taibach (in modern Port Talbot, might have been Margam or Aberavon parish at the time. They were at Groes Farm, which you can also see on the 1878 map of Southerndown. They were also at Groes Farm in 1861. Additionally, David age 27 (abt 1834) and Jennett age 24 (about 1837) were there, as well as Alice (about 1838) and Francis (about 1844) but not Ann. In 1851 they were still in Margam parish, at 'Llanmihangel', farming 42 acres. Only Alice, Ann and Francis were with them. The adjacent property on the census was Llanmihangel Mill. The property seems to have been at Kenfig, according to the census. If you look on old-maps for Kenfig and scroll up to find the main railway line running roughly WNW-ESE you will see that Llanmihangel Mill is right next to the railway, not far from Pyle. I think that the parish boundary is shown with a dotted line, but would need to check that. The head of household at Llanmihangel Mill was Catharine Powell age 36, widow, born Coity, and there was a Rees Powell, unmarried, age 49 (i.e.abt 1802) Mill wright b Margam as a visitor there. I wonder whether this Rees was Edward's younger brother, and Catharine his sister-in-law. Catharine's children were James 14, Jehosophat 8, Griffith 7, Elizabeth 6 and Mary Ann 3. James had been born at Pyle, the rest at Margam. In 1848 a James Powell, miller appeared as a witness in a case at Glamorgan sessions, in the Cambrian of 30 June 1848. In 1841 census James Powell, 30,farmer and wife Catherine 25, with children James 3, Catherine 2 and Rees 1 were living next door to Edward Powell, in a household headed by Jehosophat Powell, 65, 'independent'. The address was 'Lanmihangel' so it looks as if they were in the same place in 1841 and 1851. The previous address, which I previously thought was where Edward was, was Pandy, the Welsh for 'Mill'. Maybe Jehosophat Powell was father of Edward 1800, Rees 1802 and James 1811 Parish registers for Glamorgan are fairly abundant on Familysearch, and also on Findmypast.co.uk. They may, however, have been nonconformists. There was a Calvinistic Methodist chapel at Pyle, a short walk from Llanmihangel, and much nearer than Margam parish church. In the Cambrian, looking for Llanmihangel or Lanmihangel MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE 18 October 1828 MR JOHN MOSES, OF PILLGWENLLY, NEWPORT, TO MISS POWELL, LLANMIHANGEL MILLS, MARGAM. DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 16 December 1843 MR JEHOSAPHAT POWELL, OF LLANMIHANGEL MILL, MARGAM - AGED 73 BIRTHS 09 October 1868 ON 3 OCT.,AT LLANMIHANGEL MILLS,PYLE,THE WIFE OF MR.JOHN WILLIAMS,LLANGAFELACH,OF A SON. - so the Powell family had moved on - unless this turns out to be one of the daughters. AGRICULTURE, FARMS 12 January 1822 TO LET LANMIHANGEL FARM IN MARGAM. DEATHS, DEATH NOTICES 12 October 1849 ELIZABETH JONES OR BETSY VACH O'R FELIN,AGED 79,AT LANMIHANGEL MILL,NEAR PYLE. I have just found Llanmihangel Mill Farm and Lanmihangel on a modern map. The mill was on the Afon Cynffig or Kenfig river. There might be quite a lot more to find - for example from Margam Tithe Map around 1840. There is a family tree on Ancestry showing Jehosophat Powell born Baglan 1771, son of Rees Powell, married Elizabeth Thomas at Margam 14Dec1800 . The researcher seems to have concentrated on the family of a younger sister of Elizabeth Thomas, who married a William LOVELUCK. I suspect that there has been some detail about Loveluck family of Pyle and Kenfig on this mailing list in the past. I would have to check, but suspect that one of my father's cousins married a descendant of the Loveluck family. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: "Charlene" <charad@att.net>; <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Researching Rees POWELL > Hi Charlene > > In the 1851 census the location is 'Heolirmyndd' in the parish of St > Brides > Major and Edward Powell, 24, the elder brother of Rees Powell, is 'Farmer > of > 160 acres'. > The parish is south-east of Bridgend on the coast and extending inland and > is home to extensive limestone quarries and the beach below Dunraven > Castle, > generally known as Southerndown beach. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/StBridesMajor/ has links to maps and > the village is shown on the map as Heol-y-mynydd. > > On that GENUKI page there is also a link to an index of a book "ST. > BRIDE'S > MAJOR, SOUTHERNDOWN AND OGMORE BY THE SEA, A Chronicle of a Parish in the > Vale of Glamorgan,By Stanley W. Bevan 1980" which appears to include > several > illustrations including 'W.Powell', possibly your William. > > In 1871 census Edward Powell aged 44 b St Brides Major, with wife Cathrine > aged 48 b Cowbridge , 3 children (all born Merthyr Mawr, Glamorgan ( a > parish on the other side of the Ogwr estuary) and two servants was at > 'West > Vawr', farmer of 130 acres. One of the children is shown as Mary J aged > 11, > the eldest Edward aged 12. > > I wonder whether this entry in the 'Cambrian' newspaper > www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian is about the same Edward : > BIRTHS 01 April 1859 AT WHITNEY, MERTHYR MAWR - TO THE WIFE OF EDWARD > POWELL, A DAUGHTER. > > BIRTHS 09 March 1860 ON 24 FEBRUARY,AT WHITRA,NEAR BRIDGEND,TO THE WIFE OF > EDWARD POWELL,FARMER,OF TWINS,A SON & DAUGHTER. > > In 1881 census Edward is now a widower, at West Farm, St Brides Major. His > sister Alison aged 63, unmarried, is also there. > > I agree that this looks the same Edward Powell aged 14 in Margam in 1841 > at > 'Pandy' with parents Edward,40, farmer and Mary, 35, younger sister > Elizabeth b abt 1829 and younger brother Rees b abt 1831. > > In 1891 Edward was still at West Farm, St Brides Major in the 'hamlet or > village of Southerndown', a farmer, widower, with his three unmarried > children Edward, Mary J and David (26) > > It is a very attractive piece of countryside and you will find many images > of Southerndown beach, officially named Dunraven Bay (after Dunraven > Castle > which is perched on the cliff above it). If you look at > https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/287823/173773/12/100196 or search the > old-maps site for Southerndown you will see on the 1878 map 'West' and > 'West > cottage' which is where they lived, on the road above the cliffs leading > from Ogmore-by-sea to Southerndown village proper, which had several > hotels > in it. One of those hotels later became the 'home for blind babies' I > think. > > I see that in 1911 William Powell's address is 'Ogmore, Merthyr Mawr' but > in > the parish of St Bride's Major. There is a set of stepping stones across > the > river Ogwr (Ogmore in English) from Ogmore Castle to Merthyr Mawr village. > Maybe in 1911 Merthyr Mawr was a better-known address than St Bride's > Major. > He says he was born in Margam., and was a retired farmer aged 78. If you > do > a Google search for image Ogmore Castle you will almost certainly find one > showing the stepping stones. > > Not quite what you are looking for, but a bit of background. And a lovely > area to visit if you come looking for the ancestors. > > Best wishes with your research > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlene via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 1:56 PM > Subject: [GLA] Researching Rees POWELL > > >> Hi all, >> I am new to this list and new to researching in Wales. I am tracing a >> Rees POWELL born about 1831 in South Wales. I find him in the 1885 Kansas >> Census in Osborne County and in the 1880 US census living in Westmoreland >> County, Pennsylvania, with his brother William born about 1832 who is >> married to Anna and has a child Alice. I have found no other records of >> Rees in the US census, but William is listed in the 1900 census in >> Westmorland County as widowed with Alice living with him. I believe I >> locate Rees and William in the 1841 Wales census as children of Edward >> and >> Mary POWELL living in Margam Parish. Edward is a farmer and the children >> listed are Edward 14, Elizabeth 12, Rees 10, William 9, David 7, Jennis >> 5, >> Alice 3, Ann 1. In the 1851 census, the older children are found in St. >> Brides Parish with Edward listed as farmer of the acres and Elizabeth, >> Rees, David, and Janet. I seem to lose track of Rees at this time but >> find >> William in 1871 listed with his father Edward in! >> St. Brides Major. I also find William in the 1911 Wales census living in >> St. Brides Major with his daughter Alice who was born in Pennsylvania, >> USA. >> >> Is anyone familiar with this family or doing research on this POWELL >> family? >> Charlene >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> -- > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message