From: James R. Davis [mailto:james.davis1@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:00 AM To: 'Jill Muir' Subject: RE: [GLA] DAVIS/DAVIES, John E. before 1841 Thanks Jill, This is a good find, with the parents of John & Ann DAVIS. However my Elizabeth was born 1830/1 and baptism or christening at 5 years old is a little late for infant baptizers and a little early for believer baptizers. Certainly one however to keep on the list to consider. I don't ignore DAVIS's from Merthyr Tydfil but have been hoping for something more from the Rhondda valley. Associated tombstones near John E. Davis 1833-1900 CO say Glamorgan. His death certificate says he was born in Wonder Valley, Wales. A sextant at a cemetery, who came from Wales told me there are only seven valleys in Glamorganshire and named them off and when he got to Rhondda, with his accent, I could understand why someone thought John said he came from Wonder valley. So far that clue has not been too helpful. I spent hours searching PA census records trying to find a John E. Davis b.1833 who came in 1841 with a father John E. Davis. I only found a few Johns b.1832-1834 Wales with a father John and narrowed down to this family of John & Ann. This was using microfilm readers, before FamilySearch was digitized. I have not yet found a better match even with the digitization of census records. When I found the ship's list with the same family in 1841 I was excited because that is the immigration year from family lore that our Davis's came to PA from Wales. John & Ann Davis both died in 1872 and were buried in a Congregational Church Cemetery in Schulykill Co., PA. I grew up Congregational in Hawaii in the 1940/50's. Back to that Non-Conformist 1836 baptism record you found. I wonder which church, denomination, it was from? What churches were in Mertyr T. in 1841, besides probably Catholic and Church of Wales (Anglican?)? Well my John E. Davis 1833-1900 was supposedly born in Rhondda Valley. His father, John E. Davis, b.ca.1805 could well have been from there or from Methyr T. They were coal miners in PA. They may have travelled to find work. When were the mines started in the Valley and when were they started in Merthyr T.? Do Coal company records show year of birth or wife's name for any other employees? There are so many John Davis/Davies' that is hard to figure out who is who. My Davis web page is at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jrd/j_davis.htm. I will follow your lead and search for the children of John & Ann Davis to see if that will lead me to more ideas on a location where they lived. Peace, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir [mailto:jill@shottle.plus.com] Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:36 PM To: 'James R. Davis' Subject: RE: [GLA] DAVIS/DAVIES, John E. before 1841 Hello John, There is this family on FamilySearch.org. John Davis mentioned in the record of Elizabeth Davis Name: John Davis gender: Male Wife: Ann Davis Child: Elizabeth Davis Other information in the record of Elizabeth Davis from England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) Name: Elizabeth Davis Event Type: Baptism Christening Date: 28 Sep 1836 Christening Place: Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire Father's Name: John Davis Mother's Name: Ann Davis Affiliate Publication Number: RG4_4090 Do take a look for yourself. You haven't said where he is likely to have been born. He could well have lived in the Rhondda at some time, but this is quite early and a lot of people went over the mountain from Rhondda to Merthyr Tydfil to marry. Jill -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James R. Davis via Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 9:56 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] DAVIS/DAVIES, John E. before 1841 Hello All, Has anyone this seen this family maybe from Rhondda Valley, Glamorganshire? John E. DAVIS 45 (1804/05) Miner, took his family to mine in Pennsylvania, USA in 1841 Ann . . . . . . . . 49 (1800/01) Elisabeth. . . . 19 (1830/31) John. . . . . . . . 17 (1832/33) Ann . . . . . . . . 15 (1834/35) Mary . . . . . . . 11 (1838/39) Are they in the 1841 Census or any of the parish lists or Catholic records or the tithe lists? I came in 1982 and searched the census and parish lists in Cardiff and Aberystwyth for the Rhondda valley area and found many John's with son John but none with the right dates, but of course I may have missed them. I visited some churches and didn't have time to search any non-conforming church registers. Peace, James R. 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