subject peter Gardner I found the family of Gardners in 1891. For some reason Ancestry.co.uk could not find them but they came up ok on Find my past. The writing was very difficult to read so I expect it has been mis-transcribed on Ancestry. Charlotte is shown as being born in Exeter Devon, she is 3 mths old. They are in 22 Taff Street, Merthyr Vale, which is quite a few miles from Merthyr Tydfil. Regards Brenda Jones ________________________________________ From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com [glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 25 July 2015 04:45 To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 124 To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com and be patient. Jeff. List Admin To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com . GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Today's Topics: 1. Re: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 123 (Linda Dimino) 2. Photos of: St Caron's Church, Tregaron (CGN); St Mary's Church, Tregare (MON), St Michael's Church and Zoar Chapel, Trefeglwys (MGY) (John Ball) 3. Peter Gardner (wesixski11) 4. Edwards Strays living in RiscaI (Eliz Hanebury) 5. Re: Peter Gardner (Eliz Hanebury) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:27:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Linda Dimino <familyseeker95@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 123 To: "glamorgan@rootsweb.com" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <660361064.1888485.1437744445531.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I need assists as the film clip of the last train journey is not viewable in the US and I would very much like to watch it. ThanksLinda On Friday, July 24, 2015 12:21 AM, "glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com" <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com and be patient. Jeff. List Admin To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com . GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: Archive movie film: Swansea to Pontardulais by steam ? ? ? train (Jeff Coleman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:01:07 +0100 From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Archive movie film: Swansea to Pontardulais by ??? steam train To: "Cheryl Bennett" <2ndcitycouncil@earthlink.net> Cc: Glamorgan List <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AB924554431244A2BEE6C4972D71BA47@JeffPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; ??? reply-type=original I forwarded John's message to various people who are not on the list. One of them replied thus: With a bit searching on that site, I found a film about the Mumbles Railway from the same person - it is at http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-mumbles-railway-1804-1960-last-journey-1960/ in case anyone is interested. It is mainly about the last day of operation, but sadly, it ends with scenes of work to break up the tramcars. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Bennett" <2ndcitycouncil@earthlink.net> To: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Cc: "John Ball" <john@jlb2011.co.uk>; "Glamorgan List" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] Archive movie film: Swansea to Pontardulais by steam train So disappointed.? I love old footage and about Wales - WOW!? Tried to watch all three.? I can access the site but just before it starts to play, I get the same error message, "Content Unavailable.? The video is not authorized for your location (US)." Cheryl On Jul 22, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Coleman via wrote: > Many thanks, John, for finding this. Super. > > You may also like a 12-minute silent film of Ferndale, Rhondda where a > Carnival held on 2nd August 1926 in aid of the Distress Fund (to do with > the > lockout/strike). > > http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-ferndale-carnival-held-in-aid-of-the-distress-fund-august-2nd-1926-1926/ > Jazz bands with kazoos, improvised costumes with contingents as red > indians, > zulus, guardsmen, pierrots, convicts etc and children in fancy dress. St > John Ambulance acting as stewards, and a wonderful collection of caps and > hats. > > Also a more general 1926 film 'Dear Cambria' > http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-dear-cambria-1926/ > > which has some shots of Swansea 1926 eisteddfod, Mumbles and Gower. > > The commentary stills appears to show a rather condescending attitude > which > some might say was not untypical of inhabitants of the South-East of > England > towards Wales even now. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Ball via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > To: "Glamorgan List" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:27 PM > Subject: [GLA] Archive movie film: Swansea to Pontardulais by steam train > > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I've just been watching a superb piece of archive film, shot in June >> 1964, >> of a steam-hauled train journey from Swansea Victoria Station to >> Pontardulais. The film is in colour and lasts about 12 minutes. >> Those of you who know the Swansea area will recognise lots of familiar >> sights. The soundtrack is of rather poor quality and the commentary >> muffled, >> but the visuals are priceless. >> The footage was shot by Swansea?s Borough Librarian, Leslie M Rees and >> his >> deputy. Mr Rees provides the commentary. >> >> The film is accessible on the British Film Institute website at: >> http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-swansea-victoria-pontardulais-railway-1964-june-1964/ >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> John >> -------------------- >> John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK >> E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk >> Personal Homepage: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk >> Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ >> Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ >> Blog: http://johnofbrecon.com >> >> Webmaster, Breconshire Local & Family History Society >> http://www.blfhs.co.uk/ >> GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ >> Administrator - Powys RootsWeb mailing list >> >> >> -- >> >> To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com >> GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >> - >> >> A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> >> - >> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be >> found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ >> >> - >> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the GLAMORGAN mailing list, send an email to GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 123 ****************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:13:51 +0100 From: "John Ball" <john@jlb2011.co.uk> Subject: [GLA] Photos of: St Caron's Church, Tregaron (CGN); St Mary's Church, Tregare (MON), St Michael's Church and Zoar Chapel, Trefeglwys (MGY) To: "Powys List" <powys@rootsweb.com>, "Glamorgan List" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <09C5B4B4057A46D1825D53E7B4A631AA@Win7PC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Listers, I've just added four more subjects to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection': 1. St Caron's Church, Tregaron, Cardiganshire Photography: John Ball. Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/tregaron1.htm 2. St Mary's Church, Tregare, Monmouthshire Photography: Steve Veysey. Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/tregare1.htm 3. St Michael's Church, Trefeglwys, Montgomeryshire Photography: John Ball. Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/trefeglwys1.htm 4. Zoar Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Trefeglwys, Montgomeryshire Photography: John Ball. Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/trefeglwys2.htm The 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection' now features 384 churches and chapels, with at least twenty-five still in the pipeline. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Personal Homepage: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ Blog: http://johnofbrecon.com Webmaster, Breconshire Local & Family History Society http://www.blfhs.co.uk/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys RootsWeb mailing list ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 18:33:08 -0700 From: "wesixski11" <wesixski11@harbornet.com> Subject: [GLA] Peter Gardner To: "glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AE662224C9FD4EAE961AEB335B0A7D4B@wfwks01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello List. I am rather new to the list but have been reading all the posts hoping to find a good researcher who I can hire to help with Peter Gardner and his family. Peter Gardner was born in about 1859 in Plymouth, Devon, England, and married Elizabeth (last name unknown) in about 1882 in Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales. Elizabeth had been born in about 1861 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. They had a family of eight children, all born in Merthyr Tydfil: Mary Ann Gardner, born about 1883; Lydia b. 1885; William b. 1886; Thomas John b. 1888; John b. 1890; Charlotte b. 1891; Elizabeth b. 1893 and Sarah Vivian, b. 1900, died 6 May 1986 in Great Neck, Nassau County, New York, USA. I have been asked by Sarah Vivian Gardner Hartz?s family (who all live in the USA) to find out about her ancestors. Does anyone know of a good, honest researcher who would help me? Thank you. Elizabeth Wight Tacoma, Washington, USA ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:13:24 -0400 From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> Subject: [GLA] Edwards Strays living in RiscaI To: DYFED <dyfed@rootsweb.com>, glamorgan Rootsweb <GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CA+TOumjHRw2xjN+0Bm3RJAg1_h3vJdkprUsX29HcmA1hBurLvg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I was looking for William Edwards the husband of my ancestral aunt Rebecca Lloyd (who had her brother Thomas Lloyd living with her a lot) when I found this family Asaph and Jane (Walters or Watters or Wallers) Edwards. Asaph and Jane were from Glamorgan and I am not sure Monmouth belongs with Dyfed but since this is the first time I have found such a wonderful record (the image shows birth dates and maiden names and all) I thought I would share. All are on the same page. Trouble <G> is they aren't my man! England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 Wm Edwards Birth Date:12 Dec 1816 Birth Place:Risca, Wales Event Type:Baptism Father:Asaph Edwards Mother:Jane Edwards Baptism Date:16 Feb 1817 Baptism Place:Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Denomination:Calvinistic Methodist Piece Title:Piece 1250: Tredegar, Penuel Chapel (Calvinistic Methodist), 1806-1837 SAVE Cancel Source Information Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013 Wm Edwards1816 Baptism16 Feb 1817 Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Asaph, Jane JaneEdwards1813Baptism15 Aug 1813Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Asaph,Jane Thomas Edwards 1815 Baptism 4 Jun 1815 Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Asaph,Jane Daniel Edwards1819 Baptism 30 May 1819 Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Asaph, Jane Mary Edwards 1823 Baptism 27 Jul 1823 Tredegar, Monmouthshire, Wales Asaph,Jane Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:45:04 -0400 From: Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Peter Gardner To: wesixski11 <wesixski11@harbornet.com>, "GLAMORGAN@rootsweb" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CA+TOumjzQNtJ6nhmjDvAZ+0EyFKq22PWUd8=TWVPLAe3nRGNLw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You may have a problem http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ has only these men marrying between 1875 - 1885. He also isn't in the Non Conformist register The Plymouth marriagee below isn't Elizabeth Anderson George Plymouth 5b532 GARDNER Peter Plymouth 5b532 PIPER Tabitha Plymouth 5b532 Walters Jane Lane Plymouth 5b532 This is Peter and mother in 1881 (scroll down for all the children Peter and Elizabeth had) Peter Gardner Age:21 Estimated birth year:abt 1860 Relation:Head Mother's name:Charlote Gardner Gender:Male Where born:Plymouth Civil Parish:Merthyr Tydfil County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Street address:10 Ynisgau Education:View image Employment status:View image Occupation:Labourer Registration district:Merthyr Tydfil Sub registration district:Lower Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel:22 Neighbors:View others on page Piece:5312 Folio:51 Page Number:8 Household Members: NameAge Peter Gardner21 Charlote Gardner73 Source Citation Class: RG11; Piece: 5312; Folio: 51; Page: 8; GSU roll: 1342279 Source Information Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1881 Wales Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Peter Gardner Age in 1901:41 Estimated birth year:abt 1860 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Elizabeth Gardner Gender:Male Where born:Plymouth, Devon, England Civil Parish:Merthyr Tydfil Ecclesiastical parish:Merthyr Tydfil Town:Merthyr Vale County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Street address:View image Condition as to marriage:View image Education:View image Employment status:View image Occupation:View image Registration district:Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district:Lower Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel:36 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:121 Piece:5027 Folio:105 Page Number:28 Household Members: NameAge Peter Gardner41 Elizabeth Gardner40 (born Swansea) Mary Ann Gardner18 William Gardner15 Thomas John Gardner13 John Gardner11 Charlotte Gardner10 Elizabeth Gardner8 Jane Gardner4 Francis Gardner2 Sarah Gardner1 SAVE Source Citation Class: RG13; Piece: 5027; Folio: 105; Page: 28 Source Information Ancestry.com. 1901 Wales Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005 Peter Gardner Age in 1911:51 Estimated birth year:abt 1860 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Plymouth, Devonshire, England Civil Parish:Merthyr Tydfil County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Street address:18 Bryntaf Aberfan Merthyr Vale Marital Status:Married Years Married:29 Estimated Marriage Year:1882 Occupation:Coal Miner Hewer Registration district:Merthyr Tydfil Registration District Number:590 Sub-registration district:Lower Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel:20 Household schedule number:25 Piece:32444 Household Members: NameAge Peter Gardner 51 Ellen Gardner 9 Margaret Gardner 7 Daniel Gardner 5 Elizabeth Gardner 50 (Merthyr Tydfil miss transcribed as Lydfil) she give she had 14 children with 12 living (Margaret is not at home) William Gardner 25 Thomas John Gardner 23 John Gardner 21 Charlotte Gardner 20 Elizabeth Gardner 18 Francis Gardner 12 Sarah Gardner 11 Source Citation Class: RG14; Piece: 32444; Schedule Number: 25 Charlote Gardner Age:73 Estimated birth year:abt 1808 Relation:Mother Gender:Female Where born:Bristol Civil Parish:Merthyr Tydfil County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Street address:10 Ynisgau Condition as to marriage:Windower (Widowed) Education:View image Employment status:View image Occupation:With Son Registration district:Merthyr Tydfil Sub registration district:Lower Merthyr Tydfil ED, institution, or vessel:22 Neighbors:View others on page Piece:5312 Folio:51 Page Number:8 Household Members: NameAge Peter Gardner21 Charlote Gardner73 SAVE Source Citation Class: RG11; Piece: 5312; Folio: 51; Page: 8; GSU roll: 1342279 Source Information Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1881 Wales Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Maybe? This does match Peter Peter Gardner Age:1/12 Estimated birth year:1861 Relation:Son (Child) Father's name:Peter Gardner Mother's name:Catherine Gardner Gender:Male Where born:Plymouth, Devon, England Civil Parish:St Andrew County/Island:Devon Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district:Plymouth Sub-registration district:St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel:21 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:136 Piece:1444 Folio:108 Page Number:21 Household Members: NameAge Peter Gardner34 Catherine Gardner34 Margaret Gardner15 Thomas Gardner12 Peter Gardner1/12 SAVE Cancel Source Citation Class: RG 9; Piece: 1444; Folio: 108; Page: 21; GSU roll: 542813 Source Information Ancestry.com. 1861 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, ________________________________ Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%) ________________________________ GARDNER Peter Banbury 3a1405 ________________________________ Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%) ________________________________ GARDNER Peter Chipping N. 3a1259 ________________________________ Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%) ________________________________ Gardner Peter Chorlton 8c938 ________________________________ Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%) ________________________________ GARDNER Peter Berwick 10b560 ________________________________ Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) ________________________________ GARDNER Peter Plymouth 5b532 ________________________________ Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%) ________________________________ Gardner Peter Camberwell 1d1339 Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 9:33 PM, wesixski11 via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello List. I am rather new to the list but have been reading all the posts hoping to find a good researcher who I can hire to help with Peter Gardner and his family. > Peter Gardner was born in about 1859 in Plymouth, Devon, England, and married Elizabeth (last name unknown) in about 1882 in Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales. Elizabeth had been born in about 1861 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. > They had a family of eight children, all born in Merthyr Tydfil: Mary Ann Gardner, born about 1883; Lydia b. 1885; William b. 1886; Thomas John b. 1888; John b. 1890; Charlotte b. 1891; Elizabeth b. 1893 and Sarah Vivian, b. 1900, died 6 May 1986 in Great Neck, Nassau County, New York, USA. > > I have been asked by Sarah Vivian Gardner Hartz?s family (who all live in the USA) to find out about her ancestors. > Does anyone know of a good, honest researcher who would help me? > Thank you. > Elizabeth Wight > Tacoma, Washington, USA > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. 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