David, Many thanks for the information and apologies for the ambiguous term. Unfortunately the inscription on the pen given my great grandfather simply reads 'Crosby Row Chapel', while the certificate given to my great uncle's son reads 'Wilton Square Welsh Chapel' which has been hand written. I had thought Wilton Square might have been Congregational as my great aunt came from a staunch Congregational family so your information that there wasn't one in either Finsbury or Islington in 1903 explains why she attended a CM chapel. Your information has been helpful; thanks. Edward Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:27:58 +0100 From: "David" <david.bolton83@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [GLA] Welsh Chapels in London To: <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: < 57E7A5D765B1486F8C31E2C6D09AA413@db> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Edward, The term 'Welsh Chapel' is a little ambigious as the actual denomination would help. I have a complete list of the Congregational Chapels for 1903 and I find the following: Southwark Bridge Road: formed in 1786: The minister in 1902 was D.C.Jones(settled 1890) I can not see any Welsh chapels(Congregational) in either Finsbury or Islington fpr this denomination at 1903. I also have a complete list for the Baptists at 1895 and I find the following: Finsbury, Eldon Street: formed 1822. The chapel did not have a pastor at 1895 I can not see any Welsh Chapels(Baptist) in Southwark in 1895. Moving on to an complete list for both denominations at 1937, Southwark Bridge Road is still listed (formation date now shown at 1806 !!) There is no listing for Eldon Street in 1937. Moving on, finally, to 1972 and Southwark Bridge Road is no longer listed. For the Wesleyans, I do not have the circuit details for any part of London but whether any chapel was 'Welsh' that is also rather unclear. Hope this helps a little.

Pamela Many thanks for the information; it has been really helpful. Edward Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:58:36 +0100 From: "Pamela Marsden" <davidpam@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: [GLA] Welsh Chapels in London To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: < C403B469A3BA4080932C6104620CE8C4@Inspiron545> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Edward, "The Welsh in London 1500-2000" ed. Emrys Jones has a chapter on Welsh chapels by Rhidian Griffiths which contains a reference (pp166-167) to Crosby Row: "The mother church of the Calvinistic Methodists at Jewin Crescent spawned causes at.............Crosby Row (successor to the Cambrian) in 1861. .........................In 1889 the CMs of Crosby Row built a new chapel at Falmouth Road." 'The Cambrian' appears to refer to the Cambrian Union Society's Chapel for Seamen. Wilton Square (pp 166-167): "The presence of building firms in north London owned by Welshmen drew Welsh workers to the Islington area and a Sunday School was established at Hoxton in 1848, which grew into the chapel opened at Wilton Square in 1853." Pamela Marsden Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:23:09 +0100 From: "Pamela Marsden" <davidpam@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: [GLA] Welsh Chapels in London To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: < 680E8F30DB794B25BA959120AC398147@Inspiron545> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Here is some further information: Bethel chapel at corner of Wilton Sq. and Wilton Pl. built by Welsh Calvinistic Meths. 1853; rebuilt 1884. Seated 400 c. 1894. Attendance 1903: 95 a.m.; 232 p.m. Sect became Presb. Ch. of Wales 1933. Chapel closed between 1947 and 1953; restored as hostel 1955 by St. Vincent's Housing Assoc. From: 'Islington: Protestant nonconformity', A History of the County of Middlesex: Volume 8: Islington and Stoke Newington parishes (1985), pp. 101-115. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=9522