An interesting read yet I do believe that this gentleman is misguided. You can check practically any funeral notice and you will see the officiating minister listed as "Rev......" And I would NEVER dream of addressing a minister of religion as "Mr" were I to speak to him in person. Each to his own I suspect. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com> To: "glam" <GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Clergy and Titles--Answer > Hello All, > > A week or so ago I asked a question about how to address a minister from > Wales > who is also a Professor of Law at one of the universities. One of people > involved in getting him to come to the US wrote and asked him to clarify > and > here is his answer: > > > >> >>Subject: Re: Fw: Clergy and Titles >> >>Annwyl , >> >>Diolch am yr ebost ac ymddiheuriadau am yr oedi yn ymateb. >> >>The Reverend Professor John Smith is the usual form, and can of course be >>shortened to The Rev. Prof. if necessary. >> >>It should perhaps be noted that there is no double title here in >>the >>sense being described by Crockfords. They are thinking of two >>titles, >>one academic and one ecclesiastical, such as Professorand Canon, >>or >>Doctorand Canon. They are saying one should not mix these. > >>Here we come to what I believe, although I am not entirely sure, >>is a >>difference between practice in the US and in England and Wales. >>In >>England and Wales, 'the Reverend' is a courtesy title given to >>clergy; >>clergy are never addressed (other than on an envelope) as >>'Reverend'. >>Hence, the Reverend John Smith is addressed as Mr. Smith, the >>Reverend >>Dr. John Smith as Dr. Smith, the Reverend Professor John Smith >>as >>Professor Smith. I believe that in America - as in Scotland and >>Northern Ireland - Reverend is used as a title and one could >>therefore >>refer to 'Reverend Smith'. >> >> >>Hence, on the programme The Reverend Professor would be appropriate, but >>in >>introducing to me an audience, practice in England and Wales >>would be >>to say simply Professor because that is my only title - but practice in >>the US >>may well be different. >> >>I hope this is of some help. >> >>With my best wishes for a happy and blessed Easter - Pasg >>dedwydd, >> >> >> > It is interesting to see the differences between written and spoken forms > of address (although we would use The Rev./The Rev. Dr. in print in the US > and > 'Rev. Smith' in speech, so we use different forms, too). I still am not > sure > that we (in the US) would call someone Rev. Dr. if his doctorate was in > some > other field besides religion, though, but I don't need to know quite yet! > :) > Basically, what he says is that "Reverend" is not an actual title in > Wales, so > he is not mixing academic and ecclesiastical titles. > > I am glad he explained it so well. > > Hope this has been interesting to others. > > Mona > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >