Thank you Jeff for the clarification on Mynyddyslwyn and the descriptions of the locations listed in the different census'. The Portrait of a Parish on the link you provided was very informative. In the 1861 census, Thomas Morgan lists "Where born: Mossey Lysbeyn, Monmouthshire, Wales". Can you tell me if that might have been a town in the parish of Mynyddyslwyn? It was not listed as such under the Portrait. I was able to get the death certificate for Mary Anne Morgan but it does not give her maiden name. She died at the Pentyrch Works 30 July 1849 of "Phthisis" (tuberculosis, I believe). Is there somewhere I can search for cemeteries and inscriptions for the Pentyrch Works area? I did look at the OGRE site listed in another entry to the list, but it does not include Pentyrch. Here in the U.S. there are projects in each state where people are transcribing inscriptions on tombstones and, in some cases, there are also photos. Is there anything similar in Wales? I also purchased the birth certificate for Richard Morgan born Mar quarter 1839. This was the obvious choice based upon the 1851 census, but I also searched 1837, 1838 and 1840. This was the ONLY Richard Morgan that came up when I searched under Glamorgan. But, he is the wrong one! This Richard's father was David and his mother's maiden name was EINON and he was born at Love Lane Cardiff on Christmas Day (25 Dec) 1838. If anyone is searching for this person, I would be happy to share this document. Also, two members of the two families I am researching were married (Baptist ceremonies) at the Tabernacle Chapel in the district of Cardiff, counties of Monmouth & Glamorgan. From the Portrait description, that would indicate it was located in the westerly part of the parish where the two meet at the border. Can you suggest a website where I might find additional records for that location? -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Coleman [mailto:Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 6:10 PM To: rosamond.brown@verizon.net; GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] Thomas and Mary Ann MORGAN We seem to have had a resurgence of interest in families associated with the Pentyrch Iron Works. Have a look at Pentyrch in the list archives. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html Thomas MORGAN was from Mynyddislwyn in 1861 census http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Mynyddyslwyn/index.html It is just up the river from Risca and included Abercarn. Actually the village of Mynyddislwyn is on a hill between the river Ebbw and its tributary the Sirhowy. They combine just north of Risca, but the parish contained villages in both valleys. Walnut Tree Bridge, in Eglwysilan parish, is an old name for Taffs Well, just across the river Taff from Pentyrch. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Eglwysilan/ There were iron mines ( not very productive) in the side of the Garth mountain opposite Taffs Well, above the village of Gwaelod-y-garth in the 'Garth hamlet' of Pentyrch parish. I think they were drift mines rather than deep mines. Hammerman and Puddler were both skilled ironworks jobs. In 1841 the third child appears to be a daughter Niomi (Naomi). She may have married as Naomi in March quarter 1849 in Cardiff district. You should be able to get the maiden name of Mary Ann from the birth certificate of Richard MORGAN born march quarter 1839 in Cardiff district, assuming that he was the boy born in Pentyrch. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> To: <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: [GLA] Thomas and Mary Ann MORGAN > Seeking ancestral information on MORGAN, Thomas b. abt. 1801 in > Viynyddythen, Monmouthshire and wife Mary Ann (UNKNOWN) b. abt. 1806, m. > abt. 1825 > > > > Background information: > > 1841 census in Pentyrch: Thomas 40; Mary Ann 35; Charles 15; Thomas 14; > Giome 11; Catherine 8 (b. Caerleon Monmouthshire April 1833); Ann 6; John > 4; > Richard 2 > > > > 1851 census in Pentyrch, sub-reg. dist St. Nicholas: Thomas 51 "widower" > occupation Hammerman at iron mill; Thomas 23 b. Risca, Monmouthshire > occupation puddler of iron; Ann 14 b. Abercarn Monmouthshire; John 12 b. > Pentyrch Glamorgan; Mary JONES 25 b. Merthyr Tydvil Glamorgan occupation > house servant. Catherine is a servant for the Phillips family. > > > > If found 4 Mary Ann MORGANs who died in Cardiff district between 1841 & > 1851 > census': > > June 1842 Qtr Vol 26, page 258 > > Sept 1847 Qtr Vol 26, page 239 > > Dec 1847 Qtr Vol 26, page 280 > > Sept 1849 Qtr Vol 26, page 362 > > > > 25 Aug 1855 Catherine MORGAN marries Edwin ROWE b. Sep 1835 Crowan > Cornwall. > Catherine's father: Thomas MORGAN, Fire Man; Edwin's father John ROWE, > Mineral Agent > > > > 1861 census in Eglwysian Glamorgan: Thomas 61 occupation hammerman; > Margaret 34; Richard 22 occ. Puddler ; Abigail 6; Faber (or Jabez) 8; > Miriam > 16 mos. Believe he may have married Mary (Margaret?) JONES abt. 1852. > Possibly Dec. quarter 1852, Vol. 11a, page 339. > > > > 1871 census in Eglwysilan Glamorgan: John WRIGHT 43 occ. Laborer; > Margaret > 43 b. abt. 1828 b. Merthry Tydfil Glamorgan; Jabez MORGAN 18 stepson, occ. > Foreman; Abigail MORGAN 16 stepdaughter; Miriam MORGAN 11 stepdaughter, > occ. > Domestic servant; Mary JONES 89, mother-in-law. > > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >