Dear list members Maybe recent conversations have got a bit out of hand. Please bear in mind that the membership of the list is quite broad and diverse, with some in USA, Australia and England with little or no knowledge of modern Wales or Welsh humour, simply researching ancestors who lived in Glamorgan several generations ago. Those of us who are local may appreciate things that mean nothing to those further away, or even seem offensive. So please can we wind down humorous discussions a bit? Genuine stories about sheep etc. illustrating the realities of life in the Glamorgan valleys will remain welcome. Detailed discussion of DNA testing and what it can and cannot show has also had a good run. I suggest that for the moment the only posts on that subject should be about informative non-commercial web pages. Welcome back Phil and Josephine, by the way. Both of you have a lot of valuable local knowledge, we know, and Josephine's web site is worth a look at. Mainly for the benefit of new list members, may I suggest that subject lines mentioning surnames being researched, and perhaps place names, will be helpful. All message to the list should be in 'Plain Text' which is available on all email systemas as far as I know. No pictures or coloured text or backgrounds, or animated pictures, can be sent to the list. The maximum size for any one message is 16kb. If you want to send a message to the list which includes information that you copy and paste in, please make sure that after pasting in you make sure that the email is reverted to Plain Text. Jeff list admin