Well, then, I can lay claim to have been born near the great city of Manchester, of Welsh parents who migrated, as ever, for work, and I was Welsh speaking till English overlaid it at school. Keeping up the language was not so important in those far off days, though Chapel did its one-hour-sermon best. I love the Scots as spoken by James Naughtie - but I agree gud wi' fud is dreadful! I dare say listers will have been watching avidly the Urdd Eisteddfod from Abertawe. I watched on line as I can't get S4C in benighted England and saw some wonderful work. Particularly memorable was the harp solo for years 7 to 9, won by Nest Jenkins from Ceredigion, the dancers from Pontypridd, and the brass soloists. And lots more I did not catch. Eisteddfodau are a great training for confidence, and gracious losing, so necessary later on! Talk about Britain's got Talent - come to the Urdd! Glenys (Travis) -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 9375 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

"I dare say listers will have been watching avidly the Urdd Eisteddfod from Abertawe. I watched on line as I can't get S4C in benighted England and saw some wonderful work." FreeSAT will give it to you without the need to get Sky. Best thing I did. Married a "Saes" so the children are half and half. My son sees himself Welsh/English and my daughter English/Welsh. But getting S4C has given my son an interest in the language taking an online course and enjoying Rownd a Rownd. I'm a Pobl y Cwm man myself. Even got my English wife to watch the special Eisteddfod concert because it was Men Aloud. I also have the misfortune of one generation in England when the family name moved down from Scotland to God's country. But I now live in England doing the missionary work of bringing culture to the masses, and injecting some better DNA into the English gene pool. Remember it took a Welsh advisor to a Welsh King to get the official language of England & Wales changed from French to English to try and get some peace and quiet....... Still we can make the right decision all the time. That would be boring.... Long live the mix. It makes genealogy interesting.