Hello Gareth, Thanks for that ,it confirms another reply just received. regards Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Morgan via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: "Glam list" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] STUCKEY > Hello Mike > > > In 1911 he may be living at 8 Dunraven Street, Tonypandy, as a shop > Assistant, born Rhondda. > > In 1901 he may be living at 3 Glamorgan Terrace with his parents John born > Kingston Seymour, Somerset and mother Hannah born Llanidloes. > > Regards > > Gareth > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 19/4/15, mike smith via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I'm looking for the parents of Arthur Stuckey born Pontypridd 1894. Any > help much appreciated. > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Could this be the family in 1901? Living in Glamorgan Terrace, Llwynypia there is an Arthur Stuckey of the right age, born Llwynypia, with parents John (45 b. Somerset) and Hannah (48 b. Llanidloes) and siblings William (21 b. Festiniog), Mary Elizabeth (19 b. Trealaw) , John 17 (b. Trealaw), Henry 8 (b. Llwynypia).There is also a David E. Stuckey aged 10 with no relationship listed, also born Llwynypia. There is a possible marriage for John Stuckey and Hannah Alderson reg. Pontypridd Sept quarter 1874 -----Original Message----- From: mike smith via Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:56 PM To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] STUCKEY Hello List, I'm looking for the parents of Arthur Stuckey born Pontypridd 1894. Any help much appreciated. regards Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4331/9573 - Release Date: 04/19/15

Hello Mike In 1911 he may be living at 8 Dunraven Street, Tonypandy, as a shop Assistant, born Rhondda. In 1901 he may be living at 3 Glamorgan Terrace with his parents John born Kingston Seymour, Somerset and mother Hannah born Llanidloes. Regards Gareth -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 19/4/15, mike smith via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: I'm looking for the parents of Arthur Stuckey born Pontypridd 1894. Any help much appreciated.

Hello List, I'm looking for the parents of Arthur Stuckey born Pontypridd 1894. Any help much appreciated. regards Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Thanks, Jill, but I find http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/surnames/ a lot more useful for surname searches Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Muir via You may well be new to this list and not be aware that there are many websites that can help you in your research. I hope that the Glamorgan List's website will help you. I have just updated this and you will find it at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ One of these (mentioned on the website above) is: Rootsweb Surname Directory ~ Search for your Surname in these websites http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/directory/genealogy.html Hope you get something from this site.

Hi Listers, You may well be new to this list and not be aware that there are many websites that can help you in your research. I hope that the Glamorgan List's website will help you. I have just updated this and you will find it at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ One of these (mentioned on the website above) is: Rootsweb Surname Directory ~ Search for your Surname in these websites http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/directory/genealogy.html Hope you get something from this site. My best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ Asst. List Admin.

Hello All, Has anyone this seen this family maybe from Rhondda Valley, Glamorganshire? John E. DAVIS 45 (1804/05) Miner, took his family to mine in Pennsylvania, USA in 1841 Ann . . . . . . . . 49 (1800/01) Elisabeth. . . . 19 (1830/31) John. . . . . . . . 17 (1832/33) Ann . . . . . . . . 15 (1834/35) Mary . . . . . . . 11 (1838/39) Are they in the 1841 Census or any of the parish lists or Catholic records or the tithe lists? I came in 1982 and searched the census and parish lists in Cardiff and Aberystwyth for the Rhondda valley area and found many John's with son John but none with the right dates, but of course I may have missed them. I visited some churches and didn't have time to search any non-conforming church registers. Peace, James R. Davis, 6708 Austin Way, Sacramento, CA 95823 - - 4/18/15

You can hardly expect GoogleTranslate to try and come up with anything more than a literal translation of some text. For example, take one of the most famous passages in literature - Hamlet's soliloquy: Bod neu beidio â bod – dyna’r dewis. Ai dewrach dioddef yn feddyliol Saethau ac ergydion mympwyol Ffawd, na gwrthryfela’n erbyn llanw gofidiau a’u difa wrth eu herio? Google Translate interprets this as: Be or not to be - that choice. Is Chaste suffer mentally Arrows and shots arbitrary Fortune, not rebel against the tide worries and destroy them when challenged? Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sarah via It doesn't quite make a lot of sense does it? -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Morgan via Try copying the text into Google translate. -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sarah via I have found this article regarding my gggrandfather Owen Rogers but it is in Welsh. Would sks translate this for me? http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3121327/ART18/Rogers

Thanks Gareth, I have just realized I should have posted to The mon site. Thanks for the help. It doesn't quite make a lot of sense does it? ~Sarah

Hello Sarah Try copying the text into Google translate. https://translate.google.com/ NODION O RHYMNI. GAN OWAIN GLYNDWR. I Gwyl bregethu flynyddol Gosen sydd genym i'w chofnodi yr wythnos hon, ac yno yr oedd y Parchn. R. E. Williams, Resolfen; a J. W. Hough, Coedduon, gyda hwyl a dylanwad dwyfol. Hefyd, yno yr oedd y gweinidog, y Parch. J. R. Davies, yn taflu ysbrydoliaeth i'r wyl eleni fel arfer. Yr wythnos duiweddaf rhioddwvd pen ar fwdwl Cymdeithas Lenyddol "Cymru Fydd" Carno gyda swper gofi bur flasus. Wedi hyny caed cyfarfod adlonol dan lywyddiaeth y Parch. T. Powell, pryd y cafwyd areithiau doniol gydag ef a Mr David Watkins. Cafwyd darn o farddas fflamllyd gan Mr Daniel Davies. Canwyd amryw ddarmu, a chyfeiliwyd gan y cerddgar Ddewi Carno. Yr wythnos ddiweddaf cyfarfyddodd pwyllgor lleol y Feibl Gymdeithas. Prif waith y pwyllgor oedd penodi ysgrifenydd yn olynydd i'r Parch. George Owens, yr hwn a gyflawnodd y swydd yn ffyddlon am. tua deugain flynedd, yr hwn sydd erbyn hyn wedi myned i'r nef i dderbyn. ei wobr. Dewisiwyd y gwr ieuanc rhinweddol a gweithgar Mr Joseph Price, y Terrace. Caffed yntau ddeugain mlynedd arall yn y swydd anrhydeddus. Penderfynwyd dathlu pen canrif y Gymdeithas Feiblaidd o hyn i ddiwedd y flwyddyn. Llywyddwyd y pwyllgor gan y Parch. R. E. Peregrine, B.D. Blin genym orfod cofnodi marwolaeth hen Rhymniad hirhoedlog a pharchus yn mherson Mr Owen Rogers, Tre York, ar dalar 75 mlwydd oed. Treuliodd y rhan fwyaf o'i oes yn Rhymni fel pwyswr a gaffer y pwyswyr dan y cwmpeina. Yr oedd ef a Gwilym Gwent yn ffryndiau calon pan oedd y cerddor dihafal yn cloriannu glo a mwyn y Rhymniaid, ac yn cyfansoddi "Yr Haf." Bu Mr Rogers yn ffyddlon gyda y Cymdeithasau Dyngarol, ac yn ysgrifenydd taclus i amryw o honynt. Bedyddiwr selog fu, ac yn un o henl wrandawyr "Llan Fedydd" fawr Rhymni flynyddoedd yn ol. Ffarwel i'r hen gwmniwr anwyl a ffraeth. Mae'r Cymry glan yn mynd o un i un, A llenwir Cymru gan y Saeson erin; Fy nghyfaill Owen Rogers aeth i'r glyn, Ac ar ei fin yr hen Gymraeg yn wyn; Boed Duw yn rhoddi Cymru'n ol i'r dref Yn lle y Cymry glan mae'n fynd i'r nef. Bythefnos yn ol darfu i mi grybwyll am y doraeth o gynyrchion yr awen gyfeiriwyd gan y beirdd i'r prif-fardd Ben Davies i'w clorianu erbvn y Llun nesaf. Heddyw gall af sicrhau plant y gan bydd yma gystadleuaethau corawl gwerth dyfod o bellder i'w gwrando, yn nghyd a chystadleuaeth. chwythu cryn pres tan gamp. "Heb os, nar anibai, yn Rhymni, bydd y wledd oreu i fardd a cherddor y Llungwyn hwn, drwy Gymru benbaladr. O dewch i Rhymni ar amnaid,-Llungwyn, Wyr llengar yn danbaid; A cherddorion mwynion Mai- Dyna hanes bwyd enaid. OWAIN GLYNDWR. Notes from RHYMNEY. Owain Glyndwr. To preach the annual Festival Gosen do we have to be recorded this week, and there were the Revs. R. E. Williams, Resolven; and JW Hough, Coedduon, with fun and divine influence. Also, there was the minister, the Rev. JR Davies, throwing inspiration for the festival this year as usual. Week duiweddaf rhioddwvd head fwdwl Literary Society "New Wales" Carno with pure delicious dinner Cofi. After that there was a meeting adlonol hosted Rev. T. Powell, and was humorous speeches with him and Mr. David Watkins. A piece of flaming by Mr Daniel Davies bardism. They sang several ddarmu, and was accompanied by a musical that David Carno. He met local committee of the week last of the Bible Society. The main work of the committee was appointed successor to secretary Rev. George Owens, who executed the job faithfully for. About forty years, who has now gone to heaven to receive. his reward. Chosen young man virtuous and industrious Mr. Joseph Price, the Terrace. Caffed him another forty years in the honorary position. Decided to celebrate the end of a century of this Bible Society to the end of the year. The committee presided by the Rev.. R. E. Peregrine, Ph.D. Angry genym have to report the death of former Rhymniad lasting and respectful person of Mr Owen Rogers, Tre York, on a headland 75 years. He spent most of his life in Rhymney as weigher and the gaffer pwyswyr under the cwmpeina. He and William Gwent ffryndiau heart when the musician was unrivaled in coal and to evaluate the Rhymniaid, and compose "Summer." Mr Rogers faithful with the Humanitarian Association, and secretary neat to several of them. Devout Baptist who, and one of henl listeners "Baptism Church" large Rhymney years ago. Farewell to the old dear and witty conversationalist. The Welsh seaside go from one to one, A Welsh filled by the English erin; My friend Owen Rogers went to the valley, And it is about the old Welsh white; Whether God gave Wales back to town In place of the Welsh seaside it go to heaven. Two weeks ago I mentioned about the disruption of PRODUCTS with an abundance of inspiration referred by the poets to the main-poet Ben Davies to clorianu erbvn the next Monday. Ensure the children can go today by choral competitions here will come from a distance value to listen, respect and competition. brass blowing quite fantastic. "Without a doubt, than anibai, in Rhymney, the poet and musician feast oreu to this Whit Monday, throughout Wales. Oh come on nod to Rhymney, -Llungwyn, S literary furious; A musicians of minerals May- That soul food history. Owain Glyndwr. Regards Gareth

I have found this article regarding my gggrandfather Owen Rogers but it is in Welsh. Would sks translate this for me? http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3121327/ART18/Rogers Regards ~Sarah

Apologies Yvonne, for naming you Anne! One problem here is solved. The newspapers for Wales are free online Yvonne, at the National Library of Wales. Here in Weekly Mail of the 13 March 1909 is this. CARDIFF POSTAL OFFICIAL RETIRES. After long and honourable service Mr. J Charles Mattock, who has filled the important petition of first-class assistant-superintendent of telegraphs at the Bute Dock Post Office for over 40 years, has retired on a well-earned pension with the goodwill of his colleagues and, undoubtedly, the esteem of the public. Mr. Mattock came to Cardiff in 1857, being transferred from Newport after service at Abergavenny and Neath with the Electric and International Company. This was, of course, before the telegraphs were transferred to the State, and the offices of the company at that time were known as " Biddy Cafe" in Powell-place. About a dozen clerks comprised the staff, and in all three competing companies in Cardiff there were only about sixteen persons employed and few messengers. Only about 300 telegrams were handled daily by them, and the cost of a twenty words message to London Liver pool was Is. 6d. To-day over 2,000 "wires" are dealt with. In 1870 the Bute Docks Post- office was removed from a shop in Mountstuart-square to the corner of Bute-place, opposite to the present site, the larger premises being necessary to accommodate the telegraph business which was then acquiring. Mr. Mattock was then twenty-two years of age, and as the Bute Docks office was made the head telegraph office for Cardiff, it became- a very important centre. In 1898 the importance of Bute Docks Post-office as a transmitting centre for many offices in South Wales ceased, and the building in Westgate-street ceased, and the building in Westgate-street was made the central transmitting once instead, but the principal Telephone Exchange, with its large staff of operators was retained at the Docks for obvious reasons until 1905. Mr. Mattock's relations with his colleagues were indeed happy, and his urbane temperament and business like characteristics in his relationship the mercantile public at the Docks will be remembered with kindly appreciation. Source: Weekly Mail 13 March 1909 If the date of this is correct it is possible that he then became involved in this business as a Draper in Queen Street, Cardiff after his retirement and then promotion which I haven't found as have no more time. He was obviously very proud of the fact that he had been involved and was now Superintendent. He may well have been a 'sleeping partner' in this Drapery. A later year hunt may find his retirement from the position of Superintendent. Maybe look again for your lady. I did do a search for her and didn't find anything in newspapers, nor ancestry trees. Best wishes, Jill -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Treharne Jones via Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 6:02 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] Drapers Queen St Cardiff 1891 Hi Yvonne I've just had a look at the 1891 census and there is a word in the Occupation column, just before 'Supt of Postal Telegraphs', which I can't read - can you? I think it highly unlikely that he could have done both jobs! On the other hand there was a draper's just along Queen Street run by my GGgrandfather, James Herne. Is it possible that Maggie could have worked there? Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ANNE EVANS via Sent: 02 April 2015 19:37 I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know if they have any knowledge of Mattock of Queen Street Cardiff who appers to have a drapery business in 1891 plus he is a Superintendent of Postal Telegraphs.His name was Charles Mattock aged 42 born Somerset. I am interested because a member of his staff in 1891 was a Maggie Pergrin(probably Peregrine) who was a draper's assistant in his business. She was aged 24. It is stated she was born at Cardiff but this is probably wrong, and I believe she was born in Newport Pembrokeshire. I am helping a friend trace her. We believe she went to Cardiff because of family connections at Cardiff. Prior to this, she lived at Login near Whitland Carmarthenshire. It would be very helpful to know if Mr Charles Mattock was a draper as well as a Superintendment of Postal Telegraphs. -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Maggie Pergrin 1891in the Mattock household is not the Maggie, Anne is searching for. Sent from my iPad > On 3 Apr 2015, at 18:50, Robert Treharne Jones via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I've just checked the 1901 census, by which time Charles has moved round the > corner into Dumfries Place > There are now two more draper's assistants living in the household, one from > Narberth, the other from Newport! > > By 1911 he has retired to Tenbury, Worcestershire and is described as > 'retired post office official' - nothing about drapery there! > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Robert Treharne Jones via > Sent: 03 April 2015 18:02 > > I've just had a look at the 1891 census and there is a word in the > Occupation column, just before 'Supt of Postal Telegraphs', which I can't > read - can you? > I think it highly unlikely that he could have done both jobs! > > On the other hand there was a draper's just along Queen Street run by my > GGgrandfather, James Herne. > Is it possible that Maggie could have worked there? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of ANNE EVANS via > Sent: 02 April 2015 19:37 > > I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know if they have any > knowledge of Mattock of Queen Street Cardiff who appers to have a drapery > business in 1891 plus he is a Superintendent of Postal Telegraphs.His name > was Charles Mattock aged 42 born Somerset. I am interested because a > member of his staff in 1891 was a Maggie Pergrin(probably Peregrine) who was > a draper's assistant in his business. She was aged 24. It is stated she was > born at Cardiff but this is probably wrong, and I believe she was born in > Newport Pembrokeshire. I am helping a friend trace her. We believe she went > to Cardiff because of family connections at Cardiff. Prior to this, she > lived at Login near Whitland Carmarthenshire. It would be very helpful to > know if Mr Charles Mattock was a draper as well as a Superintendment of > Postal Telegraphs. > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History > Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just checked the 1901 census, by which time Charles has moved round the corner into Dumfries Place There are now two more draper's assistants living in the household, one from Narberth, the other from Newport! By 1911 he has retired to Tenbury, Worcestershire and is described as 'retired post office official' - nothing about drapery there! Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Treharne Jones via Sent: 03 April 2015 18:02 I've just had a look at the 1891 census and there is a word in the Occupation column, just before 'Supt of Postal Telegraphs', which I can't read - can you? I think it highly unlikely that he could have done both jobs! On the other hand there was a draper's just along Queen Street run by my GGgrandfather, James Herne. Is it possible that Maggie could have worked there? -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ANNE EVANS via Sent: 02 April 2015 19:37 I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know if they have any knowledge of Mattock of Queen Street Cardiff who appers to have a drapery business in 1891 plus he is a Superintendent of Postal Telegraphs.His name was Charles Mattock aged 42 born Somerset. I am interested because a member of his staff in 1891 was a Maggie Pergrin(probably Peregrine) who was a draper's assistant in his business. She was aged 24. It is stated she was born at Cardiff but this is probably wrong, and I believe she was born in Newport Pembrokeshire. I am helping a friend trace her. We believe she went to Cardiff because of family connections at Cardiff. Prior to this, she lived at Login near Whitland Carmarthenshire. It would be very helpful to know if Mr Charles Mattock was a draper as well as a Superintendment of Postal Telegraphs. -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Yvonne I've just had a look at the 1891 census and there is a word in the Occupation column, just before 'Supt of Postal Telegraphs', which I can't read - can you? I think it highly unlikely that he could have done both jobs! On the other hand there was a draper's just along Queen Street run by my GGgrandfather, James Herne. Is it possible that Maggie could have worked there? Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ANNE EVANS via Sent: 02 April 2015 19:37 I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know if they have any knowledge of Mattock of Queen Street Cardiff who appers to have a drapery business in 1891 plus he is a Superintendent of Postal Telegraphs.His name was Charles Mattock aged 42 born Somerset. I am interested because a member of his staff in 1891 was a Maggie Pergrin(probably Peregrine) who was a draper's assistant in his business. She was aged 24. It is stated she was born at Cardiff but this is probably wrong, and I believe she was born in Newport Pembrokeshire. I am helping a friend trace her. We believe she went to Cardiff because of family connections at Cardiff. Prior to this, she lived at Login near Whitland Carmarthenshire. It would be very helpful to know if Mr Charles Mattock was a draper as well as a Superintendment of Postal Telegraphs.

Dear Anne, I think I would look at Historical Directories to this URL http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p16445coll4 /id/8912/rec/1 and have a hunt around. I put in Mattock, Draper, Cardiff, in case he changed address. See what you can find. The next place I would try is to email or visit Cardiff Record Office and ask if they have any detail on her. I found a great deal out about my aunt who was also a milliner for Seccombes. Best of luck, let this list know if you find anything, Jill Muir List Admin -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ANNE EVANS via Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 7:37 PM To: glamorgan-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] Drapers Queen St Cardiff 1891 Hello List, I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know if they have any knowledge of Mattock of Queen Street Cardiff who appers to have a drapery business in 1891 plus he is a Superintendent of Postal Telegraphs.His name was Charles Mattock aged 42 born Somerset. I am interested because a member of his staff in 1891 was a Maggie Pergrin(probably Peregrine) who was a draper's assistant in his business. She was aged 24. It is stated she was born at Cardiff but this is probably wrong, and I believe she was born in Newport Pembrokeshire. I am helping a friend trace her. We believe she went to Cardiff because of family connections at Cardiff. Prior to this, she lived at Login near Whitland Carmarthenshire. It would be very helpful to know if Mr Charles Mattock was a draper as well as a Superintendment of Postal Telegraphs. Many thanks Yvonne Evans -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanksRrobert for your reply re Maggie Pergrin born Penarth 1867. She was a member of staff as an asst draper with Charles Mattock Queen St Cardiff in 1891. I know now that she is not the Margaret Peregrine I am looking for. in 1891. The name Peregrine gives me a terrible headache because of its varying spellings including Perkins! Many thanks Yvonne Evans

Hello List, I should be very grateful if anyone could let me know if they have any knowledge of Mattock of Queen Street Cardiff who appers to have a drapery business in 1891 plus he is a Superintendent of Postal Telegraphs.His name was Charles Mattock aged 42 born Somerset. I am interested because a member of his staff in 1891 was a Maggie Pergrin(probably Peregrine) who was a draper's assistant in his business. She was aged 24. It is stated she was born at Cardiff but this is probably wrong, and I believe she was born in Newport Pembrokeshire. I am helping a friend trace her. We believe she went to Cardiff because of family connections at Cardiff. Prior to this, she lived at Login near Whitland Carmarthenshire. It would be very helpful to know if Mr Charles Mattock was a draper as well as a Superintendment of Postal Telegraphs. Many thanks Yvonne Evans

Please would sks who has access to the 1891 census. have a look for. Rees Jones with his wife Mary Jane. They were married 1885 Newport. I think they lived Bedwelty. Mary was born in Bedwelty I know it isn't much to go on, any help would be greatly appreciated Thank you Brenda Melbourne

Would some kind person be able to look at the 1891 census for Cardiff please. Elizabeth (Bessie) WILLIAMS born 1863 Rosemarket. Pembroke she married Heron. I think she lived Eldon Rd.(now Ninian Park Rd) Gertrude Eliza WILLIAMS b. 1876 Rosemarket William WILLIAMS b 1869 Rosemarket Iris WILLIAMS b? Rosemarket Agnes WILLIAMS b 1862 Rosemarket (1881 living 9 Queen St. St.John. Cardiff.Servant/housemaid age 19 Mary WILLIAMS b1876 Rosemarket Thanks in advance Brenda (Melbourne)